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That Frain woman is not fit to ride in a peleton. This is insane behavior and should be penalized. Go home to Australia for the rest of the year and think about what you did. She also showed no remorse at all. What a piece of ***.
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I've just seen a post-race interview where she says of her second crash something like "I came in off the cars so fast and wasn't able to pull up and came off again". Not one word about the woman she hit. (I know she's apologised since but I agree she should be on her way home to reflect on her actions).

The Aussie commentators seemed more concerned for her than the rider she could have severely injured or even killed. No comment at all about the ballistic pace she came in at.

This is the for a clip on SBS:

Nicole Frain is lucky to have survived a horrifying Stage 2 of the Tour de France Femmes, in which she was involved in two nasty crashes within minutes of each other.

Shameful all round.
 
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Has anyone else noticed the difference in ability between the World Tour riders and the wildcard teams? It's far larger than it is in the men's race.

So many of the incidents so far have been caused by the difference in experience, decision making and bike handling skills, the Frain incident was just the most glaring.
 
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42x16ss said:
Has anyone else noticed the difference in ability between the World Tour riders and the wildcard teams? It's far larger than it is in the men's race.

So many of the incidents so far have been caused by the difference in experience, decision making and bike handling skills, the Frain incident was just the most glaring.
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Some of the WC and WWT riders are of course not as experienced as others, and not all are full time professionals either. Also compared to the men, fewer of them have been ridng since they were young children. And those factors in combinatiion with crosswinds, narrow roads, street furniture and an intensified level of anxiety due to the importance of the event, crashes are likely to happen.
 
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It appears to be fast a start to the stage, where nobody is able to get away and the peloton was split in two at one point. Vos herself was part of an earlier break.

Femke Gerritse has won the first QOM sprint ahead of Elise Chabbey.
 
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Cyclotron said:
I've just seen a post-race interview where she says of her second crash something like "I came in off the cars so fast and wasn't able to pull up and came off again". Not one word about the woman she hit. (I know she's apologised since but I agree she should be on her way home to reflect on her actions).

The Aussie commentators seemed more concerned for her than the rider she could have severely injured or even killed. No comment at all about the ballistic pace she came in at.

This is the for a clip on SBS:

Nicole Frain is lucky to have survived a horrifying Stage 2 of the Tour de France Femmes, in which she was involved in two nasty crashes within minutes of each other.

Shameful all round.
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Terrible as the crash looks, I do wonder how much experience a lot of people commentating have trying to make split second decisions at high speeds on a bike with so much going on around them. Often it's not even a decision, you just react and try to work out what happened afterwards.

Whatever Frain saw or thought she was doing, I have a hard time believing anyone who's made it into the professional peloton would actively try to YOLO their way through that. Some people seem convinced this is equivalent to Groenewegen which is way off. There's a big difference between seemingly getting it badly wrong and having nowhere to go and that incident.
 
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I have a hard time believing anyone who's made it into the professional peloton would actively try to YOLO their way through that.
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One would think that. From the interview posted on Cyclingnews:

Immediately after the stage, Frain said she carried speed into the peloton thinking there was a gap. "I thought I was going to make it through. And then there was a rider right in front and, yeah, you’ve probably seen the replay," she said on Eurosport.
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So I stick with my original comparison with the Groenewegen situation. Fortunately it seems like Cavalli was more fortunate than Jakobsen.

The shot from behind in the video posted elsewhere in this thread shows how much time she has to at least reduce her speed a little bit.
 
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Stelvio said:
One would think that. From the interview posted on Cyclingnews:



So I stick with my original comparison with the Groenewegen situation. Fortunately it seems like Cavalli was more fortunate than Jakobsen.

The shot from behind in the video posted elsewhere in this thread shows how much time she has to at least reduce her speed a little bit.
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I'm not clear on how you think this is like what Groenewegen did, and honestly if that's the conclusion you immediately jump to any further discussion is probably a waste of time.
 
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Another 2 points for Gerritse and 1 for Chabbey. They're pushing on, knowing the next sprint is not far away.
 
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Samu Cuenca said:
What are they saying?
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They talked about it quite a bit and stated very clearly that what she had done was very, very bad, that the team needs to speak about that clearly to her, but they also explained why especially someone who might lack experience with all the hormones in that pressure situation might make such a decision in a split second. Overall I thought it was clear, but thoughtful talk.
 
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Weird they didn't show pictures of Van Vleuten being behind. Of course they shouldn't show her while she was peeing.
 
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