kurtinsc said:
I think Cancellara will go tomorrow, for sure. It's still early in the TDF and he can be wasted for a while and come back a little later in the tour. It would be a great justice to see him back in yellow. Voigt will handle the rest for a while. At least, I hope so. I don't agree that the sprinters should just have been allowed to go. It wouldn't have been the worst thing, but like I asked earlier, "Do you want the Green Jersey to be decided in Stage 2?" I don't think so. Watch! Mr. Hushovd will lose the green jersey by 49 points and no one will care. I really don't know who to root for on this one. Thus far, Farrar gets the nod, since he hasn't made a jackass out of himself, yet. Whatever, it will be a Tour that is remembered for those that are not here, anyway. On the GC side, I go with Contador all the way. Not a lot of peeps out of him, but we will have to wait and see who touches his back wheel first.
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Oh I think Spartacus is going to go for sure and try to put some serious hurt into other riders. He's not going to win the Tour, but tomorrow is his day to make other big names look like sissies.
That's an interesting point. They could have created an inverse autobus, so to speak, where the top GC riders form a group of some 50 odd riders, and let the sprinters and their lead out trains have a go at it 5 minutes or so up the road. Time that will surely be made up on the first mountain stage.
bobs *** said:
That's an interesting point. They could have created an inverse autobus, so to speak, where the top GC riders form a group of some 50 odd riders, and let the sprinters and their lead out trains have a go at it 5 minutes or so up the road. Time that will surely be made up on the first mountain stage.
gesink will be out vandevelde out farrar soon to be out de la fuente down hard I think andy will be out at the end of the week.. not good, unfortunate to have top guys out.
scribe said:
Just starting shows balls. He knows what tomorrow is, and if he finishes, I don't care if he doesn't take a sprint from Douchey McDentalwork, he will show he is more of a man than a sissy who quits racing because his cosmetic procedure hurt his mouth.
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It shows balls but it's also pretty futile. Even if he makes it to the finish line, then what? He won't be competitive with a broken wrist. I admire his courage but sometimes you have to be realistic. Better to focus on recovering and riding at 100% again.Thoughtforfood said:
I imagine the cobbles will settle the issue anyway. If he reaches them.
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http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/FRXX0429?begHour=12&begDay=187#hhView
How unfortunate.... perfect weather.
How unfortunate.... perfect weather.
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Polish
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Nice recap of today's stage.....
http://video.competitor.com/2010/07/cycling/velocenter-cycling/velocenter-stage-2-extended-version/
If it has already been posted oops.
http://video.competitor.com/2010/07/cycling/velocenter-cycling/velocenter-stage-2-extended-version/
If it has already been posted oops.
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auscyclefan94 said:
not true..i have googled like crazy an can only findout he had a little spill at 60km
hope so i have money on him to beat basso gerrans has a sore ****
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Anyone remember 2003 and a guy with a broken collar bone...hrotha said:
...or 2002 and a guy with a broken scapula in the Giro..?
whiny pros...
Nice to see that the millionaires are 'keepin it real'... This is the largest annual sporting event in the world, and these guys are whining that it may be a bit dangerous? I mean, cummon! It's bike racing! Of course everyone is keyed up for the first week, and of course weather is going to happen.
You have to think of the grunts who aren't making six-figure salaries and who are doing what they're told by the directeur - "go to the front and drive it like your *** is on fire!".
Team sponsors pay a lot to get results, and the team directeurs must make that happen by utilising the riders they have. I am so tired of the 'Lance era', where a dominant team dictates everything on the flats until they hit a climb and then unleash some quasi-human lung with legs...
The public follows racing for racing's sake. Seeing a bunch of millionaires dictate a neutral finish is patently pathetic.
Of course riders are going to be gunning for tight lines and little holes while trying to set up their team finisher. That's bike racing...
Of course riders are going to be taking sketchy lines and railing decents to make up time. That's bike racing...
The moment riders think that they're entitled to be protected is when racing dies. They'll all be on a controlled F1 or American NASCAR track with no drama.
Just because it's the TDF doesn't mean that we need to cater to potential leaders' fears.
It is bike RACING after all. Not bike RIDING...
Bring on the guys grunting it out for that last centimetre of road in the final corner! I want to see the ballsy drama cycling can be! If the neutralizers don't like it, they can go do a time trial or stay on the track...
And I'm a Cancellara fan. Sad...
Nice to see that the millionaires are 'keepin it real'... This is the largest annual sporting event in the world, and these guys are whining that it may be a bit dangerous? I mean, cummon! It's bike racing! Of course everyone is keyed up for the first week, and of course weather is going to happen.
You have to think of the grunts who aren't making six-figure salaries and who are doing what they're told by the directeur - "go to the front and drive it like your *** is on fire!".
Team sponsors pay a lot to get results, and the team directeurs must make that happen by utilising the riders they have. I am so tired of the 'Lance era', where a dominant team dictates everything on the flats until they hit a climb and then unleash some quasi-human lung with legs...
The public follows racing for racing's sake. Seeing a bunch of millionaires dictate a neutral finish is patently pathetic.
Of course riders are going to be gunning for tight lines and little holes while trying to set up their team finisher. That's bike racing...
Of course riders are going to be taking sketchy lines and railing decents to make up time. That's bike racing...
The moment riders think that they're entitled to be protected is when racing dies. They'll all be on a controlled F1 or American NASCAR track with no drama.
Just because it's the TDF doesn't mean that we need to cater to potential leaders' fears.
It is bike RACING after all. Not bike RIDING...
Bring on the guys grunting it out for that last centimetre of road in the final corner! I want to see the ballsy drama cycling can be! If the neutralizers don't like it, they can go do a time trial or stay on the track...
And I'm a Cancellara fan. Sad...
Farrar has a broken elbow, not wrist.
Or maybe fractured. Still, gonna hurt like a MF on the cobbles.
Or maybe fractured. Still, gonna hurt like a MF on the cobbles.
St 2-Saxo/QuickStep
That Cancellara, while wearing Yellow, was able to slow down the whole field, allowing some race leaders (who would otherwise have lost time) to rejoin is a done deal. There was no sprint finish. These can be argued, but not changed. (I think it was a justified protest--a way of saying "If you cannot provide our valuable pro/world/class sportsmen a relatively safe venue, we won't give you a real race". i.e. NFL has to change the rules when too many quarterbacks get injured... I can see Cancellara was mostly motivated by saving his own team leaders...and ticked that he had to give up yellow to do it!!
What happened in the heat of battle cannot be undone, but the race official rulings are malleable and should show justice, after over-night discussions. Chavenal/QuickStep was awarded too much, all gained by an oil spill that decimated the peloton and an artificial slow-down. I favor: 1]No finish line sprint points for anyone (including Chavenal); 2] the peloton given the time gap as it existed a few seconds before the peloton crash (not 3:56, but ?? 1:20??); and 3] all the peloton given the same time, not just the grupetto after Saxobank rejoined (team leaders Cunego/Lampre 8:51, Taaramae/Colfidis 8:51, Capecchi/Footon 13:38, Vandevelde/Garmin 9:49). Given no oil-slick, Chavenal's lead would probably not have been enough to earn yellow.
That Cancellara, while wearing Yellow, was able to slow down the whole field, allowing some race leaders (who would otherwise have lost time) to rejoin is a done deal. There was no sprint finish. These can be argued, but not changed. (I think it was a justified protest--a way of saying "If you cannot provide our valuable pro/world/class sportsmen a relatively safe venue, we won't give you a real race". i.e. NFL has to change the rules when too many quarterbacks get injured... I can see Cancellara was mostly motivated by saving his own team leaders...and ticked that he had to give up yellow to do it!!
What happened in the heat of battle cannot be undone, but the race official rulings are malleable and should show justice, after over-night discussions. Chavenal/QuickStep was awarded too much, all gained by an oil spill that decimated the peloton and an artificial slow-down. I favor: 1]No finish line sprint points for anyone (including Chavenal); 2] the peloton given the time gap as it existed a few seconds before the peloton crash (not 3:56, but ?? 1:20??); and 3] all the peloton given the same time, not just the grupetto after Saxobank rejoined (team leaders Cunego/Lampre 8:51, Taaramae/Colfidis 8:51, Capecchi/Footon 13:38, Vandevelde/Garmin 9:49). Given no oil-slick, Chavenal's lead would probably not have been enough to earn yellow.
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Barrus said:
Yep. Rabo are ****ed off because Gesink crashed before the giant crash, and no one waited for him (bit of an ego that Bobby G, thinking he on his own is important enough to wait for). They also say they didn't agree with the neutralization but didn't have the guts to speak up during the race.
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I hope you're kidding? Because he's right of course. If no one is waiting for him, why should he wait for the others?tgsgirl said:
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