Tour de France Stage 4: Cambrai - Reims 153.5km

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Beech Mtn

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auscyclefan94 said:
because he was at the same time as burghardt who was before him.
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ACF, I think it is just provisional and being changed. Look at Burghardt before him and Koos after. They both have the time gap, but Gesink doesn't. He will soon be moved up the finishing order and placed as last man in the lead group with 0.00 time loss. Koos will stay with Burghardt since he presumably had no mechanical but dropped back to help Gesink. Koos will take the time loss; Gesink won't.
 
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The Hitch said:
Thats not the first time acf has made such a mistake. As i recall he taunted someone from the UK about england losing at football (unaware of the fact that a british person can also come from scotland wales or nir)
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wtf? that was because I did not know where exeter was! Get the facts right you Scheisse Kopf! I know britain is more than just england.
 
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petacchi was climbing really well(for a sprinter) in the 2009 giro(I think).. when he was at lpr.... although everyone at lpr climbed really well that giro :S
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Petacchi is a decent climber when he's in good form. If I am not mistaken his first pro win was a mountain stage in Malaysia. It was only until later that he realized he was fast in flat stages as well.

Although he now may have to carry a few extra pounds uphill.
 
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official result:

178. BURGHARDT Marcus 124 BMC RACING TEAM 3h 37' 03" + 02' 08"
179. GESINK Robert 195 RABOBANK 3h 34' 55" + 00' 00"
180. MOERENHOUT Koos 196 RABOBANK 3h 37' 03" + 02' 08"

don't know why, but it must have to do something with the 3km rule (even if he didn't crash)
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The 3 km rule is not only for crashes, also for mechanical issues and flat tires.
 
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Wow, what's up with Cav... doesn't even have the speed anymore and gave up after 40m. Enjoyed that sprint even if the 150km before weren't riveting.

Points competition is now wide open with Hushovd the favourite.

It's mainly between Hushovd, Petacchi, McEwen and Freire but maybe a surprise from Thomas or Evans who both got handy points today.
 
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wtf? that was because I did not know where exeter was! Get the facts right you Scheisse Kopf! I know britain is more than just england.
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no offense.
Im sure you do.


and exeter is in england so how is that an excuse:confused:
The incident i was reffering to was when you jokingly mocked the late (on this forum anyway) teamskyfans about englands loss in the wc. He pointed out that he was not english and other posters laughed at the fact that you assumed he was english because he was british.

I just remembered it since i thought it was pretty funny at the time is all.
 
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auscyclefan94

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no offense.
Im sure you do.


and exeter is in england so how is that an excuse:confused:
The incident i was reffering to was when you jokingly mocked the late (on this forum anyway) teamskyfans about englands loss in the wc. He pointed out that he was not english and other posters laughed at the fact that you assumed he was english because he was british.

I just remembered it since i thought it was pretty funny at the time is all.
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Dimspace is team skyfans who lives in Exeter. Well he lives in England so you would assume he was Ebglish. That is a fair assumption?
 
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Beech Mtn

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auscyclefan94 said:
Why did not COnti get same time as Vino then yesterday?
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Contador's trouble happened way before 3K to go. He just kept riding on the deteriorating wheel rather than risk losing time to make a change. As he got into the final 1K, things got worse, and he couldn't ride any faster (tire worse, him worn out from riding with a rubbing brake, etc.)

If AC had been sneaky, he could've gotten off his bike and gotten a wheel change, pretending everything had been just fine until inside 3K when the tire "suddenly went." But that would have been a lie and a gamble to take that he not be found out in the lie and lose even more time.
 
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I think Cav needs to stop riding at 80-85% as he claimed in Procycling.
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He doesnt have it at the moment looking at the finish, a bit underdone and maybe a bit stuffed from yesterday, Hushovd, Ciolek struggled also at the finish and they are fast.

It seemed like it was Pettaci, Hagen and a bunch of lead out men at the end which says it all.
 
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Contador's trouble happened way before 3K to go. He just kept riding on the deteriorating wheel rather than risk losing time to make a change. As he got into the final 1K, things got worse, and he couldn't ride any faster (tire worse, him worn out from riding with a rubbing brake, etc.)

If AC had been sneaky, he could've gotten off his bike and gotten a wheel change, pretending everything had been just fine until inside 3K when the tire "suddenly went." But that would have been a lie and a gamble to take that he not be found out in the lie and lose even more time.
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Definitely not worth the gamble! Don't the officials usually award the same time within the 3K when there is a crash? I can just see him taking that gamble and then the TdF officials not agreeing with it.
 
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coming back at ya' as fast as your slowing down.

thought, thinking TdF organizers planed the most beautiful stage 3, with a certain someone in mind, me thinks†
brilliant actually he really isn't the ALL around rider that H E thinks he is.
stage 3 planned for the physical brutality.
stage 3 planned EARLY for the mental destruction.
oh dear or dear will our hero, mr. LA succumb or surrender.
it's early, could pile up like......

also do i have to wait until after the tour to find a video sans VS stupid idiots talking, of stage 3? i would love to watch the whole thing, could do it in silence, in bed.
 
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Definitely not worth the gamble! Don't the officials usually award the same time within the 3K when there is a crash? I can just see him taking that gamble and then the TdF officials not agreeing with it.
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what do you think could have happened if they found him out? How would they have found him out?
 
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Hushovd gets crushed by another of former leadout man. He looked sloooow today. If he doesn't up his game I think Ale Jet will steal the green. Tho he was probably tired from yesterday.

Petacchi gives a good post stage interview. Talking about getting a good massage on the cobbles yesterday and being prepared to eat some bar tape to get over the mountains. :D
 
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theyoungest said:
The 3 km rule is not only for crashes, also for mechanical issues and flat tires.
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2010 Tour de France rules: http://www.letour.fr/2010/TDF/COURSE/docs/reglement.pdf (2nd half of document is in English)

Article 20 (a)

In the event that a rider or riders suffer a fall, puncture or mechanical incident in the last 3 kilometres and such an incident is duly recognised, the rider or riders involved are credited with the same finishing time of the rider or riders they were with at the time of the incident. They are attributed this ranking only upon crossing the finish line. If after a fall, it is impossible for a rider to cross the finish line, he is given the ranking of last in the stage.

For exceptional cases, the decision taken by the stewards committee is final. This measure does not apply to:

• finishes of the prologue and 19th stage, which are individual time trials;
• summit finishes of the 8th, 14th and 17th stages.
 
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