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Emotionele Groenewegen geeft fout toe: 'Ik kan alleen maar hopen op het beste'
Dylan Groenewegen reageert bij de NOS op de afschuwelijke valpartij van Fabio Jakobsen. "Ik heb gewoon een fout gemaakt."
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Summarize?Emotionele Groenewegen geeft fout toe: 'Ik kan alleen maar hopen op het beste'
Dylan Groenewegen reageert bij de NOS op de afschuwelijke valpartij van Fabio Jakobsen. "Ik heb gewoon een fout gemaakt."
Emotionele Dylan Groenewegen: "Op dit moment denk ik enkel aan Fabio, niet aan fietsen" | sporza
Dylan Groenewegen heeft erg aangeslagen gereageerd op de valpartij in de Ronde van Polen, waarbij zijn landgenoot Fabio Jakobsen zwaar ten val kwam. "Ik heb dit nooit zo gewild", zei de sprinter in tranen. "Ik heb een fout gemaakt en hoop dat Fabio snel herstelt." Groenewegen is ondertussen ook...
the man is genuinely remorseful for his actions. Still in shock and quite emotional about the chain of events he set in motion with his move. His mind keeps circling back to Fabio’s well-being. He says will not touch his bike for the foreseeable future. This is real and a million miles better than the tweet from y’day.
I use Google Translate but I've been burnt before. Always better to get a summary from someone who speaks the language. I don't know if that's still the case but I thought at one point there was a rule that a summary or translation be provided for non-English links and posts.Emotionele Dylan Groenewegen: "Op dit moment denk ik enkel aan Fabio, niet aan fietsen" | sporza
Dylan Groenewegen heeft erg aangeslagen gereageerd op de valpartij in de Ronde van Polen, waarbij zijn landgenoot Fabio Jakobsen zwaar ten val kwam. "Ik heb dit nooit zo gewild", zei de sprinter in tranen. "Ik heb een fout gemaakt en hoop dat Fabio snel herstelt." Groenewegen is ondertussen ook...translate.google.com
Well, we could always * not * post a link ofcourse, if that suits the forum and its admins better, lol. So if that rule is still in place, it would be the most funny and completely counterproductive thing. Also, last few years the online translators such as google or deepl do a good enough job to get the essence of what is being said. If you expect everybody to start translating interviews and articles, that seems a bit much imho. While this may be a an English forum, it is still a forum for an international sport. I have to do the same with Italian and Spanish articles.
Anyway, he's sorry. Never intended for this to happen. His thoughts are with Fabio, not with cycling. He doesn't think he'll touch his bike anytime soon. It seemed honest, not an act. Everything happened so fast, he was only thinking about winning. Etc
I think the rule is simply that if you post a link to a non-English source it has to be easy for other users to copy-paste and run through a translator.
As expected, the Polish doctors confirmed that Fabio didnt have to be reanimated for an hour. The confusion probably had to do with the intubation, or artificial ventilation, that was applied. Thats obviously different from reanimation where brain damage is already a huge risk within a minute or so. The Polish executive seemed very optimistic and also said that "if you can survive such a fall you can also return in the sport". Lets Hope he is right!
Your last paragraph is what I'm talking about. It's always helpful and appreciated. I just read something similar for a Spanish link that was posted. That said, it does seem like Google Translate has improved in recent years and we don't seem to be losing as much in the translation as we did even a couple years ago so maybe I shouldn't worry about it too much these days.
Yeah, I think the rules may have changed at some point and I missed it. Probably coincided with the translators getting better.
Good thing the crash took place in a "small" race and Sagan was not DQed or the forum would be erupting 
. Piece of fruit excuses and all...but in the end, as I stated then, rockets head to the line, split second decisions, sprinters and sprints are dangerous by nature. And most of today's sprinters have little to no track experience, add trains or lead-outs, it's mayhem. If nothing else, it's a miracle that these accidents don't happen more often. And that speaks to the phenomenal bike handling skills that the guys have.
Organization/design has to be blamed, if you want a bunch sprint finish, plan for no corners in the final kilometer, a wide road, and hope for the best.
Carapaz the underdog, overlooked. He has the goodies, no one really takes him seriously, and when he opens up he's smart..."a man's got to know his limitations" said Clint Eastwood: Richard makes the best of it, good for him.
. Piece of fruit excuses and all...but in the end, as I stated then, rockets head to the line, split second decisions, sprinters and sprints are dangerous by nature. And most of today's sprinters have little to no track experience, add trains or lead-outs, it's mayhem. If nothing else, it's a miracle that these accidents don't happen more often. And that speaks to the phenomenal bike handling skills that the guys have. Organization/design has to be blamed, if you want a bunch sprint finish, plan for no corners in the final kilometer, a wide road, and hope for the best.
Carapaz the underdog, overlooked. He has the goodies, no one really takes him seriously, and when he opens up he's smart..."a man's got to know his limitations" said Clint Eastwood: Richard makes the best of it, good for him.
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I actually don't think corners are a big problem. If anything it lowers the speed and it avoids having too many riders next to each other after the corner. Obviously there are corners which are dangerous, but most of the time it seems like corners reduce the risks of serious crashes.
Agree to the extent that the finish area doesn't get narrower, too. The race tends to be to each decisive bend and that starts to thin the ranks a bit from my experience and most carnage spreads to the outside of the corners. Sprinting is inherently dicey as everyone involved is making minute judgements at high speed. It only takes two racers guessing the same gap is open for a millisecond......BANG. Groenewegen probably judged that he owned that gap and, if his bottom bracket was ahead of the front wheel next to him he had room to move. That's what every big-body sprinter taught me as they guided me to the choice to back down.
If you put Ewan between Carapaz and Ulissi you have the exact replay of Frascati last year.
Emotionele Dylan Groenewegen: "Op dit moment denk ik enkel aan Fabio, niet aan fietsen" | sporza
Dylan Groenewegen heeft erg aangeslagen gereageerd op de valpartij in de Ronde van Polen, waarbij zijn landgenoot Fabio Jakobsen zwaar ten val kwam. "Ik heb dit nooit zo gewild", zei de sprinter in tranen. "Ik heb een fout gemaakt en hoop dat Fabio snel herstelt." Groenewegen is ondertussen ook...
https://www.deepl.com/translator
Way better translator!!! Google Translate is like a three year old kid translation next to it
Tried it multiple times, and it's all hype but in practice it makes the same dumb mistakes, plus, you can't translate URL's with it like Google. So for me, it's not better but less convenient.https://www.deepl.com/translator
Way better translator!!! Google Translate is like a three year old kid translation next to it
I use it mostly for Japanese and Mandarin and in those two languages the difference is night and day... I guess for European languages it doesn't matter as much... Oh well, I tried
Oh, it's very possible it's better for certain languages. I use it for EU languages most.I use it mostly for Japanese and Mandarin and in those two languages the difference is night and day... I guess for European languages it doesn't matter as much... Oh well, I tried
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The peloton didn't push on, and he's back in the group. May have some extra adrenalin going now.
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