Malecki is 3rd in GC, not Mezgec. But yeah, probably not
Oh, I just looked at the result of the stage, forgot about bonus seconds gained in intermediate sprints.
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Malecki is 3rd in GC, not Mezgec. But yeah, probably not
Oh I didn't mean to imply that at all, but I thought you were talking about the severity of the results rather than the cause.That was really not Barguil's fault, he was first forced to change his line when he made contact with TJVG, who cut a corner.
I find it really hard to find any excuses for Dylan, when you make this kind of move at 80 km/h it's always super dangerous and reckless. Of course sprinters are often rather reckless, but at that kind of speed it's just nuts.
The race organizers and the UCI are both also to blame for picking and allowing such a dangerous final/finishing straight.
That was really ridiculous. What Sagan did was wrong and everyone should acknowledge that. Instead the Sagan lobby was out in full force and managed to get an apologize from the UCI. Might have also played a part that it "only" was Cavendish, who isn't the cleanest sprinter either.This shows the UCI clearly didn’t have to apologize for the Sagan-Cavendish incident. You don’t apologize when misbehavior occur.
That was really ridiculous. What Sagan did was wrong and everyone should acknowledge that. Instead the Sagan lobby was out in full force and managed to get an apologize from the UCI. Might have also played a part that it "only" was Cavendish, who isn't the cleanest sprinter either.
Any update on the camera man??
Regarding Dylan Groenewegen, OK to his DQ of yesterdays stage.
But further aftermath will IMHO be awkward if the riders are to punish for the effects of not holding the sprint line and not just for the latter itself.
I might be rough, but it's a part of cycling.
However, I think the race organizers will reconsider the sprint stage in Katowice for the future.
Could be. Most people seem to think he'll only be banned for the remainder of the season. I'm guessing they'll go with a more severe punishment.Groenewegen is done out here.
Grow up and read a see the the facts. Sagan did nothing to Cav.Jeez...
This is cycling!
Nothing was intentional, IMO.
Like last year, when Sagan did that thing to Cavendish (and Cavendish making it to another one, in the other race, and .. so on)
Let start talking about improving safety rules near the finish line, maybe.
The no deviation from line is extremely difficult to judge even in a replay forget the dynamic and rapid situation of a sprint. I would say that marking out lanes for the last 600 m would help both riders and everybody else to know if there is deviation. Also it would be good if the lanes closest to the barriers were banned from sprinting in the last 200-600mI dunno if it would help if there was always some sort of punishment if a rider deviates from his line* during a sprint. Not necessarily downright disqualification, but simply demotion (there's another word, I forgot it...) to the last place in the group, or maybe even simply a loss of points for the point jersey, basically telling the rider that "We acknowledge your fifth place, but you're not getting any points." (And at least for sprinters a loss of points is actually a punishment that will be felt!)
*BTW, the no deviation from line rule doesn't count if you have to deviate from your line in order to get past a slower rider, right?
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Oh, and... surely they're not going to try an make Mezgec wear the jersey? I suppose it's a bit like the situation with T. Martin in the Tour a few years back, when even though he didn't start the stage - making Froome the default leader - he'd still made it across the line on the previous day, meaning that he did still technically have the jersey.
What do you mean?Some “journalists” really showing their true colors here (e.g. Thijs Zonneveld).
You had fans angry that Sagan got kicked out the race, Thankfully we don’t see that this time withThis shows the UCI clearly didn’t have to apologize for the Sagan-Cavendish incident. You don’t apologize when misbehavior occur.
He has said a lot... by saying nothing. Thijs is usually the first to sprint towards his phone or computer at the slightest inconvenience, and now there's crickets. He always looked more like a PR-machine for Dumoulin, but with the development of Jumbo's programme over the last few years, it would seem he has shifted his focus toward them. The most compelling thing he has expressed about this incident is that ''Groenewegens actions are perhaps over the line, I think'', only to write this abomination of an article last night, in which he defends Groenewegen, somehow? You can tell he is scared shitless of having to express critique, otherwise he'd maybe lose a source, lose a quote or perhaps lose someone to have on his podcast. You just know he'd scream for someone to be hanged if, say, Andrea Vendrame was yesterday's culprit. No credibility whatsoever.What do you mean?
You're right **** that guy.He has said a lot... by saying nothing. Thijs is usually the first to sprint towards his phone or computer at the slightest inconvenience, and now there's crickets. He always looked more like a PR-machine for Dumoulin, but with the development of Jumbo's programme over the last few years, it would seem he has shifted his focus toward them. The most compelling thing he has expressed about this incident is that ''Groenewegens actions are perhaps over the line, I think'', only to write this abomination of an article last night, in which he defends Groenewegen, somehow? You can tell he is scared shitless of having to express critique, otherwise he'd maybe lose a source, lose a quote or perhaps lose someone to have on his podcast. You just know he'd scream for someone to be hanged if, say, Andrea Vendrame was yesterday's culprit. No credibility whatsoever.
Could be. Most people seem to think he'll only be banned for the remainder of the season. I'm guessing they'll go with a more severe punishment.
Hope that Fabio Jakobsen and all other people involved recover and there won't be any substantial long term consequences, regarding health and professional careers.
Overall it was a sad day for cycling yesterday. People got seriously injured, their professional and personal lives for sure will be affected, including Groenewegens.
Groenewegen has deviated from his line, trying to block the attack. I doubt he did it with the intention, to kill somebody.
A few days back we talked if adding gravel to GT race would spice things up. It would, but it reduces safety. Sprint finishes like that, on terrains where peloton finishes in close formation and sprinters go to 100 km/h, it is sensational, but it is a huge safety risk. Decisions are made in split second, an error in judgement will have devastating consequences.
I agree. The incidents in races are almost all bunch sprints.I doubt the riding on gravel has some major safety issues. It increases the possibility that GC is decided but mechanical or puncture but I think downhills on HC stages are more dangerous than riding on the gravel.
On the other hand, I agree with mass sprint finishes. The final part should be seriously considered. No downhills, no U-turns, no dangerous barriers etc. Yesterday we saw how the crash in over 80 km/hour looks likes. I doubt cycling needs finishes like this to be more popular.