Tour de Suisse 2017 (10/06 > 18/06/2017)

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Gigs_98 said:
Why exactly was BMC riding at the front. Küng was far back in the peloton while they were setting a high pace and at the end there wasn't even a rider who contested for the stage win

Van Avermaet could have won here.
 
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RedheadDane said:
Is it just me, or did Sagan almost crash in the sprint? His bike kinda wobbled weirdly in the situation which caused him to bump into Degenkolb.

indeed- he almost pulled a Cavendish on Degenkolb

Well, if accidentally crashing is pulling a Cavendish... Looks like he simply lost control of his bike. Can happen to the best, even Peter Sagan.
 
Matthews got the perfect lead-out and made it count - Interesting Matthews wants to try for the points jersey at the TDF - He's been climbing well this year and can get intermediate points in in or near the mountains and in uphill finishes but where he'll struggle is pan flat finishes - he can probably get into the tailend of the top 10,while Sagan will consistently finish top 5 and even win a stage.
 
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RedheadDane said:
hfer07 said:
RedheadDane said:
Is it just me, or did Sagan almost crash in the sprint? His bike kinda wobbled weirdly in the situation which caused him to bump into Degenkolb.

indeed- he almost pulled a Cavendish on Degenkolb

Well, if accidentally crashing is pulling a Cavendish... Looks like he simply lost control of his bike. Can happen to the best, even Peter Sagan.

Looks like his front wheel slipped and he leaned on dege to stay upright https://twitter.com/cyclingreporter/status/874289110567051265
 
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yaco said:
Matthews got the perfect lead-out and made it count - Interesting Matthews wants to try for the points jersey at the TDF - He's been climbing well this year and can get intermediate points in in or near the mountains and in uphill finishes but where he'll struggle is pan flat finishes - he can probably get into the tailend of the top 10,while Sagan will consistently finish top 5 and even win a stage.
This is surely the worst TdF route in years for Matthews to target green. The first thing I thought when seeing it was that it was an anti-Sagan kind of route, with so many flat stages and very few of the rolling ones where Sagan normally gets unanswered points on the sprinters. A great chance for Kittel I would say if he can win 5 or 6 stages, but Matthews is basically a slower, less explosive version of Sagan, so he's surely got no chance here.
 
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Yes, Kitel has probably the best chance when i comes to beat Saggan wih such such a crappy route.
Matthews is a bit like an EBH who still has a good sprint after +250km.
 
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DFA123 said:
yaco said:
Matthews got the perfect lead-out and made it count - Interesting Matthews wants to try for the points jersey at the TDF - He's been climbing well this year and can get intermediate points in in or near the mountains and in uphill finishes but where he'll struggle is pan flat finishes - he can probably get into the tailend of the top 10,while Sagan will consistently finish top 5 and even win a stage.
This is surely the worst TdF route in years for Matthews to target green. The first thing I thought when seeing it was that it was an anti-Sagan kind of route, with so many flat stages and very few of the rolling ones where Sagan normally gets unanswered points on the sprinters. A great chance for Kittel I would say if he can win 5 or 6 stages, but Matthews is basically a slower, less explosive version of Sagan, so he's surely got no chance here.

I agree. The combination of poinsts system and profiles makes Kittel the favorit No.1. When they changed the points system in 2015, they gave good profiles for riders like Sagan. But now there are not only many flat stages but also the changed points system, where the 3. place (still podium) gets only 20 points, what means 30 points loss against the winner of the flat stage. With profiles like this year, but the old points system, I would still favor Sagan.
 
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DFA123 said:
yaco said:
Matthews got the perfect lead-out and made it count - Interesting Matthews wants to try for the points jersey at the TDF - He's been climbing well this year and can get intermediate points in in or near the mountains and in uphill finishes but where he'll struggle is pan flat finishes - he can probably get into the tailend of the top 10,while Sagan will consistently finish top 5 and even win a stage.
This is surely the worst TdF route in years for Matthews to target green. The first thing I thought when seeing it was that it was an anti-Sagan kind of route, with so many flat stages and very few of the rolling ones where Sagan normally gets unanswered points on the sprinters. A great chance for Kittel I would say if he can win 5 or 6 stages, but Matthews is basically a slower, less explosive version of Sagan, so he's surely got no chance here.

That's the very point I made in my post - I suspect some of these flat stages may be lumpier and more selective.
 
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Dr. Watson said:
RedheadDane said:
hfer07 said:
RedheadDane said:
Is it just me, or did Sagan almost crash in the sprint? His bike kinda wobbled weirdly in the situation which caused him to bump into Degenkolb.

indeed- he almost pulled a Cavendish on Degenkolb

Well, if accidentally crashing is pulling a Cavendish... Looks like he simply lost control of his bike. Can happen to the best, even Peter Sagan.

Looks like his front wheel slipped and he leaned on dege to stay upright https://twitter.com/cyclingreporter/status/874289110567051265
Looks like his front wheel only slipped because Degenkolb leaned on him as well...