Tour de Suisse, Stage 2 Sunday, June 10 Verbania - Verbier 218 km

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GC:

1 21 Peter SAGAN - Liquigas-Cannondale 00:09:43.750
2 91 Fabian CANCELLARA - RadioShack-Nissan 00:00:04
3 26 Moreno MOSER - Liquigas-Cannondale 00:00:07
4 151 Martin ELMIGER - AG2R La mondiale 00:00:11
5 46 Fredrik KESSIAKOFF - Astana Pro Team 00:00:15
6 61 Michael ALBASINI - Orica GreenEDGE 00:00:17
7 3 Dario CATALDO - Omega Pharma-QuickStep 00:00:18
8 48 Roman KREUZIGER - Astana Pro Team 00:00:19
9 136 Tom Jelte SLAGTER - Rabobank Team 00:00:20
10 92 Jakob FUGLSANG - RadioShack-Nissan 00:00:22
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19 8 Peter VELITS - Omega Pharma-QuickStep 00:00:25
21 95 Andreas KLÖDEN - RadioShack-Nissan 00:00:25
23 121 Alejandro VALVERDE - Movistar Team 00:00:31
26 131 Robert GESINK - Rabobank Cycling Team 00:00:31
41 71 Damiano CUNEGO - Lampre - ISD 00:00:36
44 98 Frank SCHLECK - RadioShack-Nissan 00:00:36
57 1 Levi LEIPHEIMER - Omega Pharma-QuickStep 00:00:41
 
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Tomorrow Roman FTW and yellow... :) Verbier is ideal for him. Do you think Sagan can surprise and stay in touch?
 
Jun 7, 2010
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I like Ticino/Tessin. It's a really beautiful part of the world, but starting the TdS here is no the best idea in terms of the course choice for the rest of the race,
 
Feb 20, 2010
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They're going through Saxon, then continuing to mess about on flat roads.

From Saxon, you can climb the Col du Lein (left hand profile):

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The last km and first 200m of the descent are on sterrato. But the descent puts you arriving at around km 16 on that Verbier profile above, meaning straight into it.

Lein is painfully underutilised.
 
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Gloin22 said:
He's been sucking preener much whole season so far, so I doubt it.
He was pretty good in Romandie, but with no mountains he had no chance to show anything spectacular. But he was top 10 in the ITT, which is very solid for him.

But yeah, he's had a pretty lacklustre season so far so it's not the most logical prediction.
 
Jun 3, 2012
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You all forget the almighty moser!
He will take stage + yellow tomorrow ;) mark my words!
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
They're going through Saxon, then continuing to mess about on flat roads.

From Saxon, you can climb the Col du Lein (left hand profile):

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The last km and first 200m of the descent are on sterrato. But the descent puts you arriving at around km 16 on that Verbier profile above, meaning straight into it.

Lein is painfully underutilised.

You want the GC decided after 2 days? :p
 
Feb 20, 2010
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roundabout said:
You want the GC decided after 2 days? :p

It's Switzerland. They could easily find a route that had plenty more difficult stuff, and make a one week stage race that justified having 60km of time trialling.

Mind you, so could the Dauphiné. They'd just rather provide an ITT and a weeklong training session than a race these days.
 
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stop it libertine :)

with todays master tacticians who don't take any risks,without any belda or manolo,it's better a stage like that otherwise nothing will happen on the lein or whatever.
verbier will be done at some uber high speed,enough to make only the strongest survive.
my guess:
1.kiserlovski
2.nordhaug
3.kessiakoff

astana show!


also let's remember kirchen and klodi back in 2008 here.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
It's Switzerland. They could easily find a route that had plenty more difficult stuff, and make a one week stage race that justified having 60km of time trialling.

Mind you, so could the Dauphiné. They'd just rather provide an ITT and a weeklong training session than a race these days.

You don't get it, do you? Parcours is overrated. Learn it and stop the nonsense!
 
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cineteq said:
You don't get it, do you? Parcours is overrated. Learn it and stop the nonsense!

The argument that "the riders make the race" has some merit, but not completely. It would be hard for people to make up all of the time lost in the ITT on a route as bad as this year's Dauphiné even without UK Postal grinding everybody into dust. And "the riders make the race" worked wonders for this year's embarrassment of a Giro. Yes, the route was bad, but not as bad as the racing. Since the riders are unwilling to race, we may as well try to force them to by making courses hard enough to create a selection even if they continue to race like cowards.
 
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cineteq said:
You don't get it, do you? Parcours is overrated. Learn it and stop the nonsense!

They should always aim for the most interesting route between start and fnish locations.

Whether the riders then make the most of it is another matter.
 
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jens_attacks said:
stop it libertine :)

with todays master tacticians who don't take any risks,without any belda or manolo,it's better a stage like that otherwise nothing will happen on the lein or whatever.
verbier will be done at some uber high speed,enough to make only the strongest survive.
my guess:
1.kiserlovski
2.nordhaug
3.kessiakoff

astana show!


also let's remember kirchen and klodi back in 2008 here.

Doubt Nordhaug. He got ill before Luxembourg and didnt start there and is a bit unknown with his fitness level.
 
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jens_attacks said:
stop it libertine :)

with todays master tacticians who don't take any risks,without any belda or manolo,it's better a stage like that otherwise nothing will happen on the lein or whatever.
verbier will be done at some uber high speed,enough to make only the strongest survive.
my guess:
1.kiserlovski
2.nordhaug
3.kessiakoff

astana show!


also let's remember kirchen and klodi back in 2008 here.

Nordhaug dissapointed me abit today, so do not think he is in quite top shape (neither do i think Kiserlovski is in top shape either) But Kessiakoff looks like he is going strong