I would say Roche has steadily declined, no way he can duplicate that performance. 9th-10th at the VERY BEST. Henao has the better ceiling this year, clearly, and not just because he won today.
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Valv.Piti said:I would say Roche has steadily declined, no way he can duplicate that performance. 9th-10th at the VERY BEST. Henao has the better ceiling this year, clearly, and not just because he won today.
TMP402 said:Valv.Piti said:I would say Roche has steadily declined, no way he can duplicate that performance. 9th-10th at the VERY BEST. Henao has the better ceiling this year, clearly, and not just because he won today.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly.
The reason the brought Roche instead of Henao was because of the first 9 days. They didn't need another mountain goat. If it was because of the mountains I would have taken Henao instead of Roche IMHO. I think it was more between Konig and Henao. Not Roche.HelloDolly said:TMP402 said:Valv.Piti said:I would say Roche has steadily declined, no way he can duplicate that performance. 9th-10th at the VERY BEST. Henao has the better ceiling this year, clearly, and not just because he won today.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly.
Em must be why SKY who do everything on the numbers brought Roche to the Tour and left Henao (who clearly wanted to go) at home
I am not saying Henao is not a very good rider and should not get protected status but Roche is also good at GTs as proven
We will see how it all pans out in a few weeks
HelloDolly said:TMP402 said:Valv.Piti said:I would say Roche has steadily declined, no way he can duplicate that performance. 9th-10th at the VERY BEST. Henao has the better ceiling this year, clearly, and not just because he won today.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly.
Em must be why SKY who do everything on the numbers brought Roche to the Tour and left Henao (who clearly wanted to go) at home
I am not saying Henao is not a very good rider and should not get protected status but Roche is also good at GTs as proven
We will see how it all pans out in a few weeks
Sorry, turns out I can't readjohnymax said:Brullnux said:Then why is he tenthjohnymax said:TMP402 said:I know he took a good attacking win at the Giro, but Zakarin is going to bore people if he makes a career of being the 10th best climber in week long races and winning the final day TT and overall. Romandie and probably this so far. If only he'd have had his dramatic improvement earlier he could have won Beijing too!
His win in the Giro was superb. He destroyed a very strong breakaway group with riders like Kruijswijk, Intxausti, Hesjedal, Pellizotti, Betancur amongst them. He was also great in the Finestre stage. In Romandie he was certainly better than 10th best climber. He was one of the strongest there, top 5 for sure.
I said in Romandie. In Poland he isn't convincing me as I stated in my previous post and I don't think he'll win. I was responding to the bore comment. He wasn't boring in his wins this season. Even in Romandie he attacked on the queen stage like three or four times. I'm not on his hype train and I think he has a lot more to show before he can be considered a perennial contender in stage races.
Brullnux said:Zakarin 27 seconds down on GC. He will probably catch Henao but he might not catch Ulissi, depending on his time trial form.
Just looked back at his results. He has only ever had one good result in TT's at a decent level, in Romandie. Pais Vasco: 21st (Although that day had Aia)
San Luis: 6th in a flat TT, only 10 seconds ahead of a shockingly out of form Nairo and Gaviria(?!), while 33 seconds behind Malori.
Vuelta a Burgos 2014: 7th in a fairly short, flat TT, 6 seconds behind Nairo and 7 behind the winner (behind Moreno too)
Tour of Poland 2014: 30th. Not great form, but not that bad, 25th in the Bukowina stage, but he still finished 1:23 down on Vandewalle in the exact same TT of today.
Russia championships 2014: 12th, 4 minutes down on Vorobyez. Mind you, much better than this year, where he finished 24th almost 8 minutes down on Ovechkin.
My point is that we are overhyping him for the TT. Maybe he will pull out an incredible TT, but it would be only the second time in his career. One great race does not a champion make
Escarabajo said:I think there are other riders with better chance than Zakarin tomorrow. He is too far down. All of the other have to be bad. It is just too much.
Well, you found one. I rest my case.jens_attacks said:Escarabajo said:I think there are other riders with better chance than Zakarin tomorrow. He is too far down. All of the other have to be bad. It is just too much.
yes he's too far down
27 seconds on epic time trialists like henao and ulissi
in a 25 km time trial
if would be shockingly bad for me if he doesn't take the 2nd place. i do think izaguirre will beat him
jens_attacks said:only because he's not in romandie shape(which is pretty disappointing yes). otherwise he would have put one minute into ion
tristecsinamigos said:is there a way to rewatch today's and previous stages? (also, for other races)
classicomano said:Craddock somehow randomly up there with the best today. He should do a great TT tomorrow.