Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[PCutter]

Personally I think it would be a bad decision. I love watching him ride and he's been a top bloke every time I've met him but he's not the fastest guy on Rabobanks books. Bos, Friere and Matthews are all faster in my opinion.

He's a genius at the lead out and to me I think he'd get more glory and notice sticking to leading out Cav.

Bos isn't capable of riding a grand tour and Matthews is too young for a grand tour or longer classic so there will be plenty of opportunities for Renshaw to show his wares.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Bos isn't capable of riding a grand tour and Matthews is too young for a grand tour or longer classic so there will be plenty of opportunities for Renshaw to show his wares.

Bos hasn't had much of a go to label him incapable of riding a GT.
He managed to get over the mountains at last year's vuelta.
Unfortunately he had no form, so I assume your are just assuming.

Anyway I am sure it will be a mater of all of them getting their chances.

 

[Ragerod]

Straight out of left field with the Renshaw rumour!

Personally I think it would be a bad decision. I love watching him ride and he's been a top bloke every time I've met him but he's not the fastest guy on Rabobanks books. Bos, Friere and Matthews are all faster in my opinion.

He's a genius at the lead out and to me I think he'd get more glory and notice sticking to leading out Cav.

Matthews is still developing, Freire is on the decline and Bos still hasn't proven he can be the main guy.

Renshaw won't have to look back on his career and ask himself 'what if...' He's entering his prime, he's proven himself as a lead-out man and now it's time to prove that he can be a top-notch sprinter.

He can always return to lead-out duties if it's unsuccessful but never knowing what could have been would be worse. Only time will tell if it's a good or bad decision but I think it was necessary.

 

[roadbiker]

Are there any news/rumors about Eisel?

Eisel had talks with a few teams so far. It's up to him were to go.
He said, that he has no hurry in signing (or better announcing the new deal).

My guess is it's a 50/50 between Sky and Leopard, depending which things carry more weight.

 

[Anonymous]

Henderson now saying that its not definate.

Promise to let you all know once something is confirmed. Concrete. Etc. Promise. Cheers for the interest. Flattering.

 

[greenedge]

I am happy that Thor has signed for BMC ( SORRY FOR EARLIER SAYING GE ) however many problems may arise he is a winner and a WC. Weening good move to GE and i am shellshocked by the idea Renshaw might be moving away from Cav/ Goss at Sky/ GE to be an own sprinter maybe at Rabo. However if it does eventuate congrats. If you can launch a good lead out you should be able to do a good sprint. You shall be up there next year.

I still want you to go to GE.

Skil- Shimano get your hands off Martin ( bares teeth ). If Martin did go along with Degenkolb could any other riders joining help the idea of a German WT team? Konig ( don't know contract details but is a good rider ) maybe, Gerdermann?

 

[just some guy]

I am happy that Thor has signed for GE however many problems may arise he is a winner and a WC. Weening good move to GE and i am shellshocked by the idea Renshaw might be moving away from Cav/ Goss at Sky/ GE to be an own sprinter maybe at Rabo. However if it does eventuate congrats. If you can launch a good lead out you should be able to do a good sprint. You shall be up there next year.

I still want you to go to GE

Thor signed for BMC

 

[maltiv]

I would have thought

Thomas - Swift - Cav

Does Thomas have the top end speed to get Cav to 200 -150 to go?

EBH has said that if Cav comes to Sky he will be happy to lead him out. G-EBH-Cav would be quite good, to say the least. EBH's forte is that even if they go a bit early he can do an extremely long leadout while still maintaining a decent pace. I remember in Giro where he was the 3rd last man, he went to the front with like 2k to go, easily brought back an attack by Cancellara, forced a split in the peloton and first dropped off with like 500 meters to go, at which point Renshaw was exhausted from just following wheels so he only managed to do like 50 meters of leadout. In the end Petacchi won though.

However with Cav on the team EBH will realize that in order to win he will have to improve other qualities than his sprint, which is probably why he has lost about 3 kgs this year.

 

[theyoungest]

Bos isn't capable of riding a grand tour and Matthews is too young for a grand tour or longer classic so there will be plenty of opportunities for Renshaw to show his wares.

What's this BS about Bos not being capable of riding a GT? In his first year as a pro (and only his second year as a road racer!) he completed the Vuelta. Or almost did so, until he crashed into a motorcycle on the final time trial.

 

[craig1985]

Heard Skil-Shimano is ready to battle Russian football (soccer) club Anzhi Makhachkala (based in Chechnya) for the services of Inter Milan striker Samuel Eto.

 

[El Pistolero]

What's this BS about Bos not being capable of riding a GT? In his first year as a pro (and only his second year as a road racer!) he completed the Vuelta. Or almost did so, until he crashed into a motorcycle on the final time trial.

I guess the fact that he'd be totally useless and waste of a team spot for a team like Rabo.

 

[goggalor]

Vroomen's thoughts on the rumour mill: http://twitter.com/#!/gerardvroomen/status/101202590917865472

#1TransferRule: "... close to sign with ..." never materializes. Sacrificing one team to up the other offers #procycling

Could apply to a decent amount of this thread.

 

[theyoungest]

I guess the fact that he'd be totally useless and waste of a team spot for a team like Rabo.

Ah, that's why he was down to ride the Giro.

 

[El Pistolero]

Ah, that's why he was down to ride the Giro.

Lol, says more about Rabo than anything else.

 

[theyoungest]

Lol, says more about Rabo than anything else.

Like what? That they're trying to help a sprinter who's made a unique transition in his development? Yes, it's a shame.

 

[Fetisoff]

Heard Skil-Shimano is ready to battle Russian football (soccer) club Anzhi Makhachkala (based in Chechnya) for the services of Inter Milan striker Samuel Eto.

That's a pretty big geography fail.
But pretty funny, nonetheless.

Oh, the "great" Anzhi... Manchester City for the slightly poorer....

 

[El Pistolero]

Like what? That they're trying to help a sprinter who's made a unique transition in his development? Yes, it's a shame.

By winning on the Etna? Or Nevegal? Or Zoncolan? Or Gardeccia? Or Sestriere?

Theo Bos should be a sprinter on a Conti team, not on a WT Tour.

 

[kanari]

Alex Rasmussen confirmed for Garmin next year.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/9357/Alex-Rasmussen-signs-one-year-deal-with-Garmin-Cervelo.aspx?

 

[luckyboy]

So who have we got that is semi-confirmed but not officially confirmed yet?

Henderson > Lotto
Degenkolb > Skil
Renshaw > Rabobank

 

[just some guy]

So who have we got that is semi-confirmed but not officially confirmed yet?

Henderson > Lotto
Degenkolb > Skil
Renshaw > Rabobank

about right

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

By winning on the Etna? Or Nevegal? Or Zoncolan? Or Gardeccia? Or Sestriere?

Theo Bos should be a sprinter on a Conti team, not on a WT Tour.

lol your a joke. Have you seen his turn of speed.
I am sure many WT would find him useful. Rabo have a quite a spread in ambitions tho, so maybe not the best place for him.
But I am sure a team like quickstep for example this year who have done little to nothing could have used a quick guy like Bos--Give him a train (which would bring more results in no doubt, because he has a great turn of speed).

 

[Praetor]

So who have we got that is semi-confirmed but not officially confirmed yet?

Henderson > Lotto
Degenkolb > Skil
Renshaw > Rabobank

Degenkolb > Skil appears to be far from comfirmed.

And Bos is not the only one who would win more often if he had a great train. You have to earn that kind of team-dedication by showing some form of progress and I don't feel Bos has done that. Or at least not enough.

Sure, he has the speed, but so do a lot of riders and some of them are just more efficient and therefore, they are a safer bet.

 

[Zaschrona]

Degenkolb > Skil appears to be far from comfirmed.

Exactly. It looks like Leopard are in for him. And I remember almost all rumours about Leopard last year were true in the end..

 

[sublimit]

Skil are rapidly turning into the new HTC if that goes ahead. Stapelton might end up getting a job there.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Degenkolb > Skil appears to be far from comfirmed.

And Bos is not the only one who would win more often if he had a great train. You have to earn that kind of team-dedication by showing some form of progress and I don't feel Bos has done that. Or at least not enough.

Sure, he has the speed, but so do a lot of riders and some of them are just more efficient and therefore, they are a safer bet.

Bos has one of the best turn of speeds, but he is only in his 3rd year on the road. He is still a long way from a complete sprinter I agree. I am not convinced he can hold his speed for very long, thus why I think he could benefit greater from a train then some others (considering the speed he can produce).

But he certainly appears good enough for many WT teams, that was the issue I had. I have no problem with renshaw getting a go, in fact I hope he does have a go. I believe it will be pretty shared to be honest.