Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[Anonymous]

Millar says the Greenedge story is rubbish
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/8...r-2012-hopes-to-stay-with-Garmin-Cervelo.aspx

“Strange one, that,” he told VeloNation this evening. “I'm in zero negotiations with any team, not even my own for the moment! So [it’s] a totally random story.”

and Henao is confirmed seemingly at sky. he said in an interview today that he is waiting for the visa so he can travel to italy and meet team management and work out his schedule.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

who, yohan gene and kevin reza?

I assumed Hitch meant Reza, since Gène has been around a while now. And Gène has won some races this year too.

 

[NickBVK]

I would assume that would mean that Cav would have a one man leadout team with Renshaw doing the Geraint job. Geraint and Edvald can then concentrate on developing themselves.

Swift and Appo for some races, Cav for others.

Henderson and Sutton to go to greenedge

Most sensible option for all if this were to eventuate. Geraint & Edvald are made for bigger things than just leadouts. Hendo and Sutton would get more chances at GreenEDGE.

Hushovd - already rumoured vaconsoliel and europcar, now add cofidis to the list
Cameron Wurf : liquigas > Androni

Let's hope not for Thors sake and I'm sure Wurf would get picked up by GreenEDGE

 

[LukeSchmid]

But BMC is not a good pick for TJVG. he should go back to Rabo

Why? He surely would get some good opportunities at BMC.

 

[joy118118]

Why? He surely would get some good opportunities at BMC.

I cant see it in these years.

 

[LukeSchmid]

I cant see it in these years.

I don't understand you at all sorry

 

[joy118118]

I don't understand you at all sorry

Well, who is the latest talent BMC developed? not having a rider who can climb doesnt equal to a rider who can climb does have good chances in that team. to me BMC is not a team that is able to develop a rider of TJVG type well.

 

[just some guy]

Well, who is the latest talent BMC developed? not having a rider who can climb doesnt equal to a rider who can climb does have good chances in that team. to me BMC is not a team that is able to develop a rider of TJVG type well.

BMC is 3 years old and have a team which needs another GC leader. TJVG can fit this role and also have an older head to learn from.

What ever anyone thinks of Evans 99.5% of the riders would want half of his career performance when they retire.

At HTC TJVG is the 4th or 5th GC rider at BMC he would be 2nd and in a year 1.

Be a good fit where else can he go and get that plus all that for riding for a US team.

Sky no
Rabo no
Shack no
Saxo - maybe
Astana - maybe
Greenedge - yes but no leader to help may go backwards
French teams yes but cannot see it happening
EE or Movistar not going to happen
Lampre no
Liq/cann - might work but 3rd GC rider and might become super dom instead

So BMC stay at HTC for US teams but HTC he is way down the order with no older leader
Saxo might be a great fit - learn at lot from Contador

So BMC good fit plus they pay well

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

bmc need some proper mountain domestiques first.

 

[just some guy]

bmc need some proper mountain domestiques first.

I agree Lloyd would work what other mt domestiques english speaking, italian speaking are coming off contract.

Maybe Phil also

 

[joy118118]

BMC is 3 years old and have a team which needs another GC leader. TJVG can fit this role and also have an older head to learn from.

What ever anyone thinks of Evans 99.5% of the riders would want half of his career performance when they retire.

At HTC TJVG is the 4th or 5th GC rider at BMC he would be 2nd and in a year 1.

Be a good fit where else can he go and get that plus all that for riding for a US team.

Sky no
Rabo no
Shack no
Saxo - maybe
Astana - maybe
Greenedge - yes but no leader to help may go backwards
French teams yes but cannot see it happening
EE or Movistar not going to happen
Lampre no
Liq/cann - might work but 3rd GC rider and might become super dom instead

So BMC stay at HTC for US teams but HTC he is way down the order with no older leader
Saxo might be a great fit - learn at lot from Contador

So BMC good fit plus they pay well

learn from evans that dont spend half of the career in a wrong team?lol. 3 years is enough for developing a talent. who IS the one they develop?

4th rider in HTC is still far better than in BMC. when will Mini Phinney fully recover?

why cant he go to Rabo? A US team is a stupid reason. he stayed in Rabo CT for two years why not coming back to Rabo. Too many talents in Rabo? He can find a way to earn his place.

 

[Kazistuta]

I'm still looking for Tim Roe to show something in the BMC jersey - thought he would have shown himself in some climbing stage by now.

He's a talent and hopefully BMC are able to help his development - and as others point out, they need mountain guys.

 

[just some guy]

Rabo have way too much talent

A us team maybe stupid reason but tjvg does come across as very stars and stripes to me.

Phinny is overhyped and a classic tt guy so no issues for tjvg there.

 

[joy118118]

Rabo have way too much talent

A us team maybe stupid reason but tjvg does come across as very stars and stripes to me.

Phinny is overhyped and a classic tt guy so no issues for tjvg there.

why TJVG very USA? just because he has a USA passport? he is more european that Phinney boy. I think if he wants he can get a Dutch passport.

XXX has too much talents
OOO has too much talents

this is not a reason that a talent should go to a team that has less talents.

A team like HTC that have many talents still waaaaaaaaaay better than a team like BMC.

 

[just some guy]

why TJVG very USA? just because he has a USA passport? he is more european that Phinney boy. I think if he wants he can get a Dutch passport.

XXX has too much talents
OOO has too much talents

this is not a reason that a talent should go to a team that has less talents.

A team like HTC that have many talents still waaaaaaaaaay better than a team like BMC.

So what your saying is

You dont like BMC
You dont like Phinney

BMC do have some holes yes, but will beable to give an up and coming GC riders a chance which other teams cant.

Riding as a mth dom will not help TJVG develop as much as riding a GT as a leader and another as supporting an experienced leader.

Thats why Saxo and BMC are good fits.

 

[Matty_Tucks]

BMC is 3 years old and have a team which needs another GC leader. TJVG can fit this role and also have an older head to learn from.

What ever anyone thinks of Evans 99.5% of the riders would want half of his career performance when they retire.

At HTC TJVG is the 4th or 5th GC rider at BMC he would be 2nd and in a year 1.

Be a good fit where else can he go and get that plus all that for riding for a US team.

Sky no
Rabo no
Shack no
Saxo - maybe
Astana - maybe
Greenedge - yes but no leader to help may go backwards
French teams yes but cannot see it happening
EE or Movistar not going to happen
Lampre no
Liq/cann - might work but 3rd GC rider and might become super dom instead

So BMC stay at HTC for US teams but HTC he is way down the order with no older leader
Saxo might be a great fit - learn at lot from Contador

So BMC good fit plus they pay well

Greenedge might just follow what HTC do - i.e. stage wins / wins in smaller races?

 

[joy118118]

So what your saying is

You dont like BMC
You dont like Phinney

BMC do have some holes yes, but will beable to give an up and coming GC riders a chance which other teams cant.

Riding as a mth dom will not help TJVG develop as much as riding a GT as a leader and another as supporting an experienced leader.

Thats why Saxo and BMC are good fits.

LOL, if someone says something negative on BMC and Phinney, it means he doest like BMC? Only fans like ACF could be called like BMC and Phinney? Bah.

BMC also has Eijssen and what he did this year? you think TJVG fits BMC well because of what he shows in HTC. Then I dont agree because of what young kids show in BMC. i suspect BMC is able to have a good developing program for him. If BMC is as good as HTC, why didnt Eijssen show nothing now? and If BMC can develop Eijssen well, it is not good for TJVG, too.

Saxo is good fits, i agree.

 

[just some guy]

LOL, if someone says something negative on BMC and Phinney, it means he doest like BMC? Only fans like ACF could be called like BMC and Phinney? Bah.

BMC also has Eijssen and what he did this year? you think TJVG fits BMC well because of what he shows in HTC. Then I dont agree because of what young kids show in BMC. i suspect BMC is able to have a good developing program for him. If BMC is as good as HTC, why didnt Eijssen show nothing now? and If BMC can develop Eijssen well, it is not good for TJVG, too.

Saxo is good fits, i agree.

Eijssen and TJVG are different for many reasons. But I agree him and Roe havn't been seen much but TJVG has much more experince and is levels above Roe and Eijssen. So a leader push might be a good thing for TJVG.

Re Greenedge Matty you probably are right but they do need to have a GT look in a year or two anyway so will need younger guys and will have some of the best backroom support of any team

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

bmc is like the titanic of your cycling career. name me one talent that started riding better at bmc?? they have phinney, roe, schaer, eijssen that were/are all super talents and very young, yet all of them suck since they ride with bmc

 

[janraaskalt]

bmc is like the titanic of your cycling career. name me one talent that started riding better at bmc?? they have phinney, roe, schaer, eijssen that were/are all super talents and very young, yet all of them suck since they ride with bmc

Schaer was already demolished by Astana. Phinney, Roe and Eijssen are riding below expections so far, but BMC is trying to develop them gradually instead of burning them. Max Sciandri has earned some credit in the past for his work.

 

[just some guy]

bmc is like the titanic of your cycling career. name me one talent that started riding better at bmc?? they have phinney, roe, schaer, eijssen that were/are all super talents and very young, yet all of them suck since they ride with bmc

BMC is in the pro tour just this year - phinney crashes and overtraining
Shaer riding a different role but probably of to the tour and maybe spain so doing well.

GVA become a better rider

Dont rate roe and eijssen for a year or two yet

I stop now or the BMC fanboy comments will start I just think BMC are canned to much around here

 

[dlwssonic]

bmc is like the titanic of your cycling career. name me one talent that started riding better at bmc?? they have phinney, roe, schaer, eijssen that were/are all super talents and very young, yet all of them suck since they ride with bmc

really just admit that you have something against BMC. For gods sake this is thier 1st season give them a chance, obviously the jump form u23 cycling to professional is a hard one you cant expect them to start winning races already. And phinney has had a terrible season due to injury at least he came back and got 2nd on one of the romandie stages and a few other top 10s in california. Yes some of their riders have not done as well but look at evans, morabito and GVA their doing much better than they were in their previous teams.

 

[Richeypen]

really just admit that you have something against BMC. For gods sake this is thier 1st season give them a chance, obviously the jump form u23 cycling to professional is a hard one you cant expect them to start winning races already. And phinney has had a terrible season due to injury at least he came back and got 2nd on one of the romandie stages and a few other top 10s in california. Yes some of their riders have not done as well but look at evans, morabito and GVA their doing much better than they were in their previous teams.

errrrrrrrrr

 

[dlwssonic]

errrrrrrrrr

have you even followed cycling recently. everyone else agrees he has been doing better.

 

[Lanark]

have you even followed cycling recently. everyone else agrees he has been doing better.

He started winning more (although that already started at Lotto with his world championship, still by far his biggest win), but I don't think he has become a better rider, just a more attractive style, he hasn't shown the level he had in the 2007-2008 Tours in quite some time.