Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[auscyclefan94]

No f-ing way!

Yes, I was surprised to see that. Think it is pretty stupid though they could be really stupid and sign Davis.

 

[El Pistolero]

Yes, I was surprised to see that. Think it is pretty stupid though they could be really stupid and sign Davis.

Actually I found that pretty obvious

I think they'll sign Davis as well, he doesn't want to stay at Astana. I hope they also get Goss and Renshaw. They'll also need some foreign stars though. My best guess is Pozzato.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Davis is too inconsistent. He rarely peforms and teams don't need the baggage nor his attitude to working he brings.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Yes, I was surprised to see that. Think it is pretty stupid though they could be really stupid and sign Davis.

I'm certain it was sarcasm by pickle

I think GreenEdge will have a pretty decent squad tho.

 

[Ferminal]

It is being reported that Lotto has it's next project secured. Jurgen Van den Broeck reportedly signed a 4-year contract with them already.

Sergeant, Frison and Marc Wauters will also remain with them. Mario Aerts will become DS as well.

Source

You would think that rules Gilbert out of Lotto then?

 

[Michielveedeebee]

You would think that rules Gilbert out of Lotto then?

Probably. I don't understand Jurgen though... Omega-Pharma holds the licence(WT or team licence dunno which one ) I guess they just pay him a really big load of money for a long time

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

All leaders have an Ego, using you skills and brain smart is a different thing.

2 even sometimes 3 leaders is smart for a classics team.

Fabian and his ego this year ment he lost in the bigger classics, showing a 50 km charge on a Wednesday was the dumbest thing Ive seen in years. ego and dumb vs ego and smart riding.

If Gilbert say sign with BMC and GVA in in the break of say Flanders and Gilbert does anything but sit on wheels the Greg should be ****ed, but if GVA gets brought back in the last 20-30kms he can still hang on for a top 10 - and help Phil Go FTW - good team riding.

If the break does not get brought back because everyone is looking at Phil then GVA has a fair chance against other 2 tier leaders FTW and Phil does his thing against the leader - good team riding.

GVA has had a good season but never really looked like a win in any of the classics except maybe San Remo if Fabian did not ride him down. If if and more ifs.

With Phil in the team I believe GVA has more chance of a win then without. Just my Opinion of course.

lol what a crock of sh*t. fabian has already multiple wins in those classics unlike his opponents there hushovd and flecha, who are also older

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Why didn't Movistar ever make a bid for Sergio Henao?

they did

.

 

[just some guy]

lol what a crock of sh*t. fabian has already multiple wins in those classics unlike his opponents there hushovd and flecha, who are also older

Yes he mutipule wins yes he has more wins than Hushovd and Flecha , but if he had of raced smarter this year he would have won more - ego got in the way. He thought he could do what he did last year again. Wrong end of story

 

[Machu Picchu]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=39990
ESP:Castroviejo se irá al Movistar Team en 2012
ENG: Castroviejo will go to Movistar in 2012

I hope not, I'd like him to stay for at least another year

It is being reported that Lotto has it's next project secured. Jurgen Van den Broeck reportedly signed a 4-year contract with them already.Source

Obviously he has a better idea of what's happening and whose going where than I do but this seems like a mistake to me, think he should have gone with the other parent

 

[Karl Max]

Yes he mutipule wins yes he has more wins than Hushovd and Flecha , but if he had of raced smarter this year he would have won more - ego got in the way. He thought he could do what he did last year again. Wrong end of story

I agree with you on this one, Cancellara showed all his card in a race meaning nothing. All the other riders and teams could see what they had to do to beat him at Flandern and P-R. He was the strongest rider no doubt about that, but he was not the smartest rider.

 

[boomcie]

Obviously he has a better idea of what's happening and whose going where than I do but this seems like a mistake to me, think he should have gone with the other parent

Maybe, but Omega Pharma has no substantial plans as of now.

It's certain that the cycling landscape will be reshaped drastically next year with the coming of Greenedge, the transfers of a few of the biggest riders in the sport, the potential suspension of Contador and of course the return of a few major Dutch talents .

Curious to see what else will happen.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

I agree with you on this one, Cancellara showed all his card in a race meaning nothing. All the other riders and teams could see what they had to do to beat him at Flandern and P-R. He was the strongest rider no doubt about that, but he was not the smartest rider.

I'm not sure the E3 race had anything to do with it. He'd shown what he was capable of in RVV and PR last year. But it didn't help, that's for sure.

With regards to the ego, I think that came into play a little bit at RVV. To attack the peleton from 80km (?) out was, I think, Fabian just trying to do something really special, without respect for some of the others. If he'd waited for Chavanel to come back and then attack at the same point as last year, I think he'd have won. There was no ego at PR. He just got screwed over, good and proper.

Regardless, they're still 2 of the most astonishing displays of power I've seen on a bike, whether he won or not.

 

[El Pistolero]

Maybe, but Omega Pharma has no substantial plans as of now.

It's certain that the cycling landscape will be reshaped drastically next year with the coming of Greenedge, the transfers of a few of the biggest riders in the sport, the potential suspension of Contador and of course the return of a few major Dutch talents .

Curious to see what else will happen.

And Quickstep regaining half the glory of the Mapei days

Hope Gilbert picks QS and Boonen stays there. Also want Vanendert and Leukemans to join QS.

 

[boomcie]

And Quickstep regaining half the glory of the Mapei days

Hope Gilbert picks QS and Boonen stays there. Also want Vanendert and Leukemans to join QS.

That's some serious fantasy you've got there E. Pistolet.
Major plus one though , QS has lost all it's sexiness over the past few years.

 

[cobblehead]

That's some serious fantasy you've got there E. Pistolet.
Major plus one though , QS has lost all it's sexiness over the past few years.

lefevre claims that with the money from zdenek Bakala he has the budget at hand to sign both Boonen and Gilbert and that he has allready talked with both riders (or their representatives) about the project for quickstep in the next few years...

Boonen - Gilbert would be a mighty combo though the question remains how they would resolve the matter of who would get to be the big gun in races like ronde van vlaanderen, Paris-Roubaix,...

I also believe that el pistolero may have a point with the names he wrote down, I don't see Gilbert going to a team without taking a few trusted lieutenants along with him and leukemans has always been his buddy and vanendert was his most trusted helper in the hill classics, so why not?

All this would help the sexiness of quickstep a great deal cause god knows they've been lacking that...

 

[Michielveedeebee]

And Quickstep regaining half the glory of the Mapei days

Hope Gilbert picks QS and Boonen stays there. Also want Vanendert and Leukemans to join QS.

Ow yeah Leukie at QST and we'll have Mapei classicscarnage again

 

[boomcie]

...so why not?.

1. They need to sign Gilbert.
2. They need to keep Boonen.
3. They need to sign Leukemans, who still has a contract at Vacansoleil for 2012 if I'm not mistaken.
4. They need to sign Vanendert.

That's a few too many variables to me. Not a very likely scenario.

 

[craig1985]

An article on the front page claims that Astana offered Liquigas €3m for Nibali and Nibali €1,5m per year for two seasons. Liquigas rejected this offer.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Boonen - Gilbert would be a mighty combo though the question remains how they would resolve the matter of who would get to be the big gun in races like ronde van vlaanderen, Paris-Roubaix,...

...

Other than RVV, I can't really think of another race where there might be a conflict. Maybe MSR. I think it would work out fine and they'd be able to cover a lot of bases between them.

 

[El Pistolero]

1. They need to sign Gilbert.
2. They need to keep Boonen.
3. They need to sign Leukemans, who still has a contract at Vacansoleil for 2012 if I'm not mistaken.
4. They need to sign Vanendert.

That's a few too many variables to me. Not a very likely scenario.

The team that buys Gilbert will probably have to buy Vanendert and Leukemans. Contracts can be easily bought out by rich teams. That's really no problem. And Leukemans and Gilbert have hinted they may ride together in the future quit a lot actually.

The only variable is if they can sign Gilbert and in the process keep Boonen. I don't see Boonen leaving QS and I don't see Gilbert going to Sky if Cavendish is there. So that only leaves BMC and QS as serious candidates. And Phil said he prefers a Belgian project... Plus he must see a good domestique in Stybar for the future

 

[Parrulo]

An article on the front page claims that Astana offered Liquigas €3m for Nibali and Nibali €1,5m per year for two seasons. Liquigas rejected this offer.

no wonder liquigas rejected lol

nibali performs well at TA, MSR, LBL, 2gt's and the GdL. who would willingly let that kind of rider go?

besides he is italian on a italian team . . . i think its pretty safe to say that nibali will be liquigas leader for the next few years. well him and sagan

 

[boomcie]

The team that buys Gilbert will probably have to buy Vanendert and Leukemans. Contracts can be easily bought out by rich teams. That's really no problem. And Leukemans and Gilbert have hinted they may ride together in the future quit a lot actually.

The only variable is if they can sign Gilbert and in the process keep Boonen. I don't see Boonen leaving QS and I don't see Gilbert going to Sky if Cavendish is there. So that only leaves BMC and QS as serious candidates. And Phil said he prefers a Belgian project... Plus he must see a good domestique in Stybar for the future

I realize most of it is realistic, but it's the combination of all the factors that makes it unlikely. I also know Gilbert and Leukemans want to ride together, it's already apparent on the road as well.

QS investing in Gilbert, keeping Boonen ánd buying of Leukemans (who is no cheap mofo himself) just seems a bit much to me.

 

[El Pistolero]

I realize most of it is realistic, but it's the combination of all the factors that makes it unlikely. I also know Gilbert and Leukemans want to ride together, it's already apparent on the road as well.

QS investing in Gilbert, keeping Boonen ánd buying of Leukemans (who is no cheap mofo himself) just seems a bit much to me.

Just divide Boonen's paycheck and give that to Leukemans

 

[craig1985]

no wonder liquigas rejected lol

nibali performs well at TA, MSR, LBL, 2gt's and the GdL. who would willingly let that kind of rider go?

besides he is italian on a italian team . . . i think its pretty safe to say that nibali will be liquigas leader for the next few years. well him and sagan

Either that or they're going to drive a higher price. I'd imagine that it is the former though.