Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[LaFleur]

Don't think it's been posted yet.

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_71103.htm

Martin deciding between 2 or 3 teams, based on "personnel" and "equipment", not financial terms.

I guess personnel depends on where the THR directors end up.

No Cofidis then

 

[ingsve]

There has been some nice signings for Skil-Shimano but it won't be enough to get WT just yet bu it's a nice foundation that could give them even more wild card invites and in a year or two they could be knocking on the WT door if they keep signing like this and get good results in the mean time.

 

[Kvinto]

No Cofidis then

German rider in a Franch team? hmm, it is hardly possible i guess.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Great signing for Skil-Shimano if that's true. It's a very interesting team to follow.

 

[Eric8-A]

Maybe thinking of Gretsch?

Yes. I stand corrected

 

[hrotha]

German rider in a Franch team? hmm, it is hardly possible i guess.

He could go to Europcar. Some guys there with more German names than Martin himself.

 

[theyoungest]

Degenkolb and Kittel in the same team??

Kittel used to be Degenkolb's leadout on Thüringer Energie Team, I think. It would be a very good signing for Skil, if true. Kittel for the flat finishes, and Degenkolb for the harder ones (and for cobbled classics in general).

Skil really seem to aspire to become the new German WT team.

 

[abbaskip]

Ah, I somehow forgot about Haussler as well. Though he's not much of a lead out. Though I guess he could learn. I would also not call Kristoff a lead out if it were to turn out that Garmin signs him. Kristoff has had some issues with navigating the sprints and getting in position so there would have to be some work done if you were to rely on him to bring Farrar in position.

Haussler leading out would be such a waste. I think he is faster than Farrar anyway. And definitely stronger.

And as you mentioned, he has said himself, he isn't good at lead outs. Goss has said this too though. I think some guys say it, and don't do great jobs on purpose, so they don't get chosen as lead out, and get to ride for themselves. Probably means riding lesser races, but racing to win.

 

[LugHugger]

Hmm.... Degenkolb can target the classics and do a lead out job for Kittel. However don't you think Degenkolb is too young to handle the classics. Can his body cope with it?
Skill would be a interesting team if it happens next year though.

Degenkolb was very impressive at Paris Roubaix this year. Top 20 this year and certainly potential to improve. He's certainly one to keep an eye on over the cobbles. He seems as though he was bred for that race!

 

[Michielveedeebee]

he (Visconti) should have done it at the start of this season. can't understand why did he stay with Farnese Vini

money I think

 

[ingsve]

Haussler leading out would be such a waste. I think he is faster than Farrar anyway. And definitely stronger.

And as you mentioned, he has said himself, he isn't good at lead outs. Goss has said this too though. I think some guys say it, and don't do great jobs on purpose, so they don't get chosen as lead out, and get to ride for themselves. Probably means riding lesser races, but racing to win.

Well, the problem with both Goss and Haussler as lead outs is that they are too explosive. A lead out needs to be someone who can maintain the high speed from the previous lead out or gradually accelerate before handing off so that the sprinter doesn't need to also waste energy by following their wheel.

 

[Fus087]

Visconti to Movistar
http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=41963

Good for Visconti , but bad for Farnese-Neri.
We need some big Tuscan sponsor to throw in some money and form a Tuscan WT team. Just imagine:
Visconti, Nibali, Bennati, Grivko, Guardini...
With Cipollini, Tafi, Scinto in management roles. Would be great; but I think it won't happen as the local amateur squads (who could make it happen if they wanted) are too busy fighting each other.

he (Visconti) should have done it at the start of this season. can't understand why did he stay with Farnese Vini

Farnese-Neri was in danger of folding if Visconti had moved on. Much like Voeckler & Europcar. But this one didn't get as much good PR...
It makes me ache to think of what could have been, if Visconti hadn't been injured at the start of the Giro: Take the maglia rosa on an early stage (Orvieto?), defend it to the best of your abilities (wouldn't have been as long as Voeckler, though, with Contador doing what he did) - voilà, you get a lot of good press, sign some good riders and have the possibility to go WT!

 

[taiwan]

Adam Blythe? I think Gilbert once said that he's a good guide through the peloton, and maybe Cyclingnews turned this into "key domestique"? He's Anglophone, after all. And reported to be signing with BMC.

Oh yeah, that sounds quite likely.

 

[Ferminal]

Cammaerts to Cofidis

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-transfert-edwig-cammaerts-s-engage-avec-cofidis-18085.html

 

[TRDean]

you would think so. he is a promising rider.
The signed a few good youngsters already, they are slowly becoming a very good team.

I always liked skil (not like TR dean, he must be happy) so I am happy for them.

YEA Timmy...I am on cloud nine right now if this happens!! Man...I really like the way Skil is putting together their team...they are going to be more fun to follow. I just wish van Hummel was still going to be with them...oh well...

 

[TRDean]

Can anyone provide any background on the young rider Tobias Ludvigsson? Is he a real talent for the future or was last week a "flash in the pan"? Thanks!!

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Haussler leading out would be such a waste. I think he is faster than Farrar anyway. And definitely stronger.

And as you mentioned, he has said himself, he isn't good at lead outs. Goss has said this too though. I think some guys say it, and don't do great jobs on purpose, so they don't get chosen as lead out, and get to ride for themselves. Probably means riding lesser races, but racing to win.

Haussler isn't quicker then farrar.
a better all-round rider probably, but not quicker.

 

[greenedge]

It would be great to see an all german WT. Degenkolb i reckon could win M-SR in a few years before the cobbles.

 

[Tuarts]

Wow, this is an impressive recruitment drive by Skil.

 

[Ferminal]

Wow, this is an impressive recruitment drive by Skil.

Maybe it gets better.

Tony Martin zu Skil-Shimano?

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_71124.htm

Translation is fairly dodgy, from what I can read it is just them speculating on a possible destination.

There is a quote from Martin which translates as -

"Maybe it will be for one or the other as a surprise" i.e. A surprise where he ends up?

 

[Midnightfright]

Maybe it gets better.

Tony Martin zu Skil-Shimano?

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_71124.htm

Translation is fairly dodgy, from what I can read it is just them speculating on a possible destination.

There is a quote from Martin which translates as -

"Maybe it will be for one or the other as a surprise" i.e. A surprise where he ends up?

Well I to remember after the Gretsch signing hearing they were looking to sign up to 3 more from HTC if it disbanded. I mentioned on 1 of the threads I expected them to be looking closely at some guys. Maybe Tony is 1. He would be absolute leader and would give them a massive coop and would probo get a WT spot.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

We'll finally get to see him in the Ardennes about bloody time.
Here's hoping he won't be using the stupid national champ jersey's of movistar

We've seen Visconti plenty of times in the Ardennes, even when he was at smaller CT teams like Farnese in the Amstel Gold Race.

Every time he failed.
Those classics are too hard for him.

Why you didn't notice him, is because he finished 85th about eveyr time

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

And here, a list of Visconti's excellent WT classics results!

2011
114 - Amstel Gold Race
82t- Milano San Remo

2010
DNF - Giro di Lombardia
91 - Milano San Remo

2009
30 - Milano San Remo
68 - Giro di Lombardia

2008
55 - Milano San Remo
64 - Amstel Gold Race
45 - Fleche Wallone
75 - Liège - Bastogne - Liège
25 - Plouay
4 - Giro di Lombardia

2007
91 - Milano San Remo
118 - Amstel Gold Race
51 - Fleche Wallone
DNF - Liège - Bastogne - Liège
10 - Clasica San Sebastian
57 - Ploauy
9 - Giro di Lombardia

2006
38 - San Sebastian
55 - Ploauy
31 - Zürich
67 - Giro di Lombardia

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

We've seen Visconti plenty of times in the Ardennes, even when he was at smaller CT teams like Farnese in the Amstel Gold Race.

Every time he failed.
Those classics are too hard for him.

Why you didn't notice him, is because he finished 85th about eveyr time

yeah visconti is overrated on this forum. He does well in Italian races, maybe less so next year as I assume he'll ride more WT races.

a rider who should be dedicating more time to fleche and maybe lbl = scarponi.
I am sure he could contend if he trained for these races.

 

[hatcher]

Renshaw talking to Rabobank. Interesting for more than one reason.

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