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Ragerod said:
Thomas did unintentionally lead out Cav at Cap Frehel and then EBH at Lisieux so he's definitely capable of doing it on difficult finishes and with some specific training I'm confident he could do it permanently. The concern is it would hamper his own objectives.

My sentiments exactly
 
El Pistolero said:
Are you already fearing the mighty train of Farnese Vini for next year? :D

I'm always against more teams joining the nothing-but-sprints club, but it's especially frustrating here since ISD-NERI and their successors used to be one of the most dependable teams in the péloton to try and make something interesting.
 
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Cav to Garmin? That will never happen. Sure it's a bit of a sticky situation having Thor, Haussler, and Farrar in the same team, but when you have the best sprinter in the world and one of the best in the same team, it won't work. (Greipel and Cavendish scenario)
 
Libertine Seguros said:
I'm always against more teams joining the nothing-but-sprints club, but it's especially frustrating here since ISD-NERI and their successors used to be one of the most dependable teams in the péloton to try and make something interesting.

so u don't think trying to work out who is going to finish 2nd behind Cav interesting?
 
Eric8-A said:
Cav to Garmin? That will never happen. Sure it's a bit of a sticky situation having Thor, Haussler, and Farrar in the same team, but when you have the best sprinter in the world and one of the best in the same team, it won't work. (Greipel and Cavendish scenario)

Also, Vaughters tweeted that he wished he had a second title-sponsor so that he could be more competitive on the transfer market. That would have to be one big ruse if he in fact would have the cash to secure Cav.
 
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ingsve said:
Also, Vaughters tweeted that he wished he had a second title-sponsor so that he could be more competitive on the transfer market. That would have to be one big ruse if he in fact would have the cash to secure Cav.

This is probably another big rumor signing like the one that was going around when Garmin wanted to sign Contador for 2010
 
Eric8-A said:
This is probably another big rumor signing like the one that was going around when Garmin wanted to sign Contador for 2010

Well, the Contador rumor did have some truth to it since Vaughters have admitted that they did inquire about signing Contador. I guess they might have inquired about Cav as well I guess.
 
Is someone able to translate this?

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=42036

Los equipos Pro Tour están ultimando los fichajes para la próxima temporada y este año ha aparecido una nueva variable a la hora de fichar los corredores: los puntos UCI. La Unión Ciclista Internacional ha programado una nueva forma a la hora de admitir a los equipos en la máxima categoría del ciclismo: el UCI Pro Tour. La cuestión es que los puntos UCI que obtengan los corredores este año, independientemente del equipo donde lo hayan conseguido, son válidos para que los equipos que los fichen sumen puntos y puedan optar a la máxima categoría del ciclismo. Este cambio ha sido realizado a última hora y sus detalles, que no son 100% claros por estas fechas, conocidos casi sin tiempo para los fichajes. Pero, ¿puede realmente la UCI modificar los varemos para que los equipos puedan optar a la máxima categoría incluso después de que comience la temporada?

Something about where the points end up after signings.
 
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Is someone able to translate this?

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=42036



Something about where the points end up after signings.

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Pro Tour teams are completing the signings for next season and this year there has appeared a new variable to the time of signing the runners UCI points. The International Cycling Union has scheduled a new way when it comes to admitting teams in the top of cycling, the UCI Pro Tour. The point is that UCI points to get the runners this year, regardless of the computer where they have done, are valid for teams that join points and signs them eligible to the highest level of cycling. This change has been made at the last minute details, that are not 100% clear at this time, known almost time for signings. But can it really change the varemos UCI for teams qualifying for the top flight even after the season starts?

In other sports such as football or basketball, we'd get his hands to his head mid-season if the LFP or the ACB decided that any team down to the second division of the respective sports. In both cases, the leagues can not modify their demands rise and fall due to early season (or even every few seasons if it is valid for the previous season) the respective federations football and basketball signed an agreement with professional football league (LFP) and basketball (CBA). These agreements, which are binding on both parties, is reflected promotions, demotions, ground rules, arbitration, number of players ...

Therefore, mid-season is not possible to change and should be done, damaged equipment could claim to the courts (Administrative Court to hold public office) or the sports courts where it has the CAS as a last resort.

Instead, the UCI make a change at the last minute after the start of the season and damaged equipment will not file any complaints. Why? Because they can not. In cycling there is any agreement between federations, UCI and careers where they established the requirements for promotion, demotion ... The reason is that the existence of such an agreement is necessary to catalog the competition as "professional league" and oddly enough in only considered Spain's professional league football and basketball (first and second division football and basketball only the first division).

Therefore, the UCI may even decide without any objective basis who gets ProTour license or not. Therefore, subjective changes made last minute and the teams do not have any right to complain. As cycling is very difficult to categorize as a professional league because of its global development and the conflicts of the different legislation allows a loophole which the UCI benefits.

Should there be a set criteria and objectives to get the license Pro Tour? Both responses are valid. On the one hand, the absence of objective criteria, allowing the UCI adjust to changing realities as cycling and to adjust their status to their most recent. On the other hand, the absence of a basis for promotion and relegation, the teams do not know until near the January 1 of this season (the signings can be made throughout the calendar year) if your team will participate in the top level or not. This amounts to perhaps the hefty investment of a sponsor could be hurt by their brokers can not participate in the top and not get the expected returns of advertising to monetize their investment (as has happened this year Geox-TMC).

For So, what objective criteria before the start of the season on promotion or relegation? The debate is.

By Aitor Ocampos, cyclist under 23 and a student of law and economics at the University of Navarra. Blog sportius.wordpress.com.
 
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