Transfers and Rumours 2012 > 2013

[Fidolix]

meersman always had and has incredible talent. you have no idea clearly

Incredible talent? looool where? He got talent, but he´s by no means an "incredible talent"

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Incredible talent? looool where? He got talent, but he´s by no means an "incredible talent"

good for you to know. can you tell me the amounts of talent all others have in the peloton? then we are done with it.

 

[jyhjyh]

Jörg Jaksche comeback

Jörg Jaksche signed with AminoSkin Cycling Team.


http://www.radsport-aktiv.de/freizeit/freizeitnews_78723.php

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Jörg Jaksche signed with AminoSkin Cycling Team.


http://www.radsport-aktiv.de/freizeit/freizeitnews_78723.php

what crappy team is that?

 

[El Pistolero]

Meersman has an oral agreement with OPQS according to Het Nieuwsblad.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Martyn Irvine signs for United Healthcare. Irvine has primarily been a track rider for the last while, also riding for the Taiwan based RTS Conti team. It's relatively late for a rider to be making the step up to the Pro Conti ranks (he's 27), but with his track pedigree he should be a very useful addition to their sprint train.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...-based-pro-continental-team-unitedhealthcare/

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Along with Irvine seven other, more known riders join UHC as well:

Luke Keough (Mountain Khakis)
Daniel Summerhill (Chipotle)
John Murphy (Kenda)
Lucas Euser (SpiderTech)
Aldo Ino Ilesic, Kiel Reijnen, Alessandro Bazzana (all Type 1)

 

[El Pistolero]

Meersman has an oral agreement with OPQS according to Het Nieuwsblad.

And it's official, he's riding for OPQS next year.

 

[Lexman]

So Lotto lose one of five leaders, they still want to be WT?

really curious what LTB will become, VDB and Greipel don't seem to be distracted by it.

Read a twitter from the manager of the team that he meets the UCI today ...

 

[RHRH19861986]

Anyone heard of where Gerdemann will be in 2013? He´ll leave RSNT, that´s for sure, but haven´t heard of a new team yet.

 

[roadbiker]

If he wants to remain in the 1st division, I only see a possibility at Katusha or Astana (don't know if they are already full though) for him.
Maybe Team MTN-Qhubeka as an exception at lower level.

But I can also imagine that he will retire, if he doesn't find a top team any more.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

UHC sign a bunch of dudes: Lucas Euser, Alessandro Bazzana, Kiel Reijnen, Martyn Irvine, Danny Summerhill, Aldo Ilesic, John Murphy, and Luke Keough

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...cluding-Euser-Bazzana-Reijnen-and-Ilesic.aspx

 

[RHRH19861986]

If he wants to remain in the 1st division, I only see a possibility at Katusha or Astana (don't know if they are already full though) for him.
Maybe Team MTN-Qhubeka as an exception at lower level.

But I can also imagine that he will retire, if he doesn't find a top team any more.

I read a German interview with him, from September. He wants to continue, and sounded arrogant as always. He was not worried at all, thinks his great reputation makes sure he´ll get enough offers, wants to be leader for the Tour at his 2013 team, but also could imagine to join NetApp-Endura.

I think he´ll find a WT or PCT team, he´s a good rider and has the best German manager, Christian Baumer, but his best days might already be over.

Though, it´s late November, not a good sign that one still hasn´t heard from him.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

If he wants to remain in the 1st division, I only see a possibility at Katusha or Astana (don't know if they are already full though) for him.
Maybe Team MTN-Qhubeka as an exception at lower level.

But I can also imagine that he will retire, if he doesn't find a top team any more.

I am almost 100% certain he will not join Astana. Not sure if they are full thought, haven't been bothered to count the numbers

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Arkaitz Durán signs with Efapel-Glassdrive.

There's another pretty decent name in the Portuguese péloton. Durán certainly deserves another go as a pro - his 2012 season was unbelievable.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Arkaitz Durán signs with Efapel-Glassdrive.

There's another pretty decent name in the Portuguese péloton. Durán certainly deserves another go as a pro - his 2012 season was unbelievable.

Correct.

UCI system -> Euskaltel signs names like Schulze and Radochla -> someone like Duran has to ride Continental Team -> I vomit

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

What's wrong with Schulze and Radochla? Combined they have about 50 UCI wins.

Duran doesn't have a single one.

He had seven years to show himself as a pro and didn't fulfill expectations. To dominate the Spanish amateur circus like he did this year sounds harder than it is. José Belda (who?) scored in 2011 more than 30 wins alone, so Duran's 2012 score of 17 wins is not that extraordinary. Especially when you consider that the quality of the fields at those races has been rather miserable.

But yeah, of course failing Spanish climbers are more interesting than successful German (or any other nationality) sprinters.


Edit: just to be clear - Duran deserves a return to pro ranks. But Radochla and especially Schulze deserve it, too.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What's wrong with Schulze and Radochla? Combined they have about 50 UCI wins.

Duran doesn't have a single one.

He had seven years to show himself as a pro and didn't fulfill expectations. To dominate the Spanish amateur circus like he did this year sounds harder than it is. José Belda (who?) scored in 2011 more than 30 wins alone, so Duran's 2012 score of 17 wins is not that extraordinary. Especially when you consider that the quality of the fields at those races has been rather miserable.

But yeah, of course failing Spanish climbers are more interesting than successful German (or any other nationality) sprinters.


Edit: just to be clear - Duran deserves a return to pro ranks. But Radochla and especially Schulze deserve it, too.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

I know who José Belda is. And you should know that I know.

But ask any other user here. Most will have never heard of this guy. By right.

 

[RHRH19861986]

What's wrong with Schulze and Radochla? Combined they have about 50 UCI wins.

Duran doesn't have a single one.

He had seven years to show himself as a pro and didn't fulfill expectations. To dominate the Spanish amateur circus like he did this year sounds harder than it is. José Belda (who?) scored in 2011 more than 30 wins alone, so Duran's 2012 score of 17 wins is not that extraordinary. Especially when you consider that the quality of the fields at those races has been rather miserable.

But yeah, of course failing Spanish climbers are more interesting than successful German (or any other nationality) sprinters.


Edit: just to be clear - Duran deserves a return to pro ranks. But Radochla and especially Schulze deserve it, too.

I don´t see any chance for my compatriots Schulze and Radochla in 2013. Not able to finish a GT, best placings maybe Top 10 in superflat 1.1 races.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I know who José Belda is. And you should know that I know.

But ask any other user here. Most will have never heard of this guy. By right.

so? nobody had heard of soler until the 2007 tour. that didn't mean he wasn't one of the best climbers in the world just before that. belda was the only one able to follow quintana this year in vuelta madrid queenstage until final km. so he's of incredible high level

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Schulze and Radochla are decent enough guys, and I have plenty of time for them. But they don't belong at Euskaltel, and they're both the wrong side of peak years. Durán has spent most of his time as a pro to date as a youngster and a domestique, and at 26 still has plenty of years to offer. He may not be a guy who kills the scene as a Pro. But he could well be a justifiable domestique at Euskaltel, or a guy who has a pretty good role at a team like Caja Rural, whilst riders like Txurruka and Velasco are still at Euskaltel.

Everything Pierre Cazaux had to say rings true.

 

[Fidolix]

so? nobody had heard of soler until the 2007 tour. that didn't mean he wasn't one of the best climbers in the world just before that. belda was the only one able to follow quintana this year in vuelta madrid queenstage until final km. so he's of incredible high level

lol

10 char

 

[janraaskalt]

Schulze and Radochla are decent enough guys, and I have plenty of time for them. But they don't belong at Euskaltel, and they're both the wrong side of peak years. Durán has spent most of his time as a pro to date as a youngster and a domestique, and at 26 still has plenty of years to offer. He may not be a guy who kills the scene as a Pro. But he could well be a justifiable domestique at Euskaltel, or a guy who has a pretty good role at a team like Caja Rural, whilst riders like Txurruka and Velasco are still at Euskaltel.

Everything Pierre Cazaux had to say rings true.

If that would be true, Euskaltel shouldn't have given a contract to Schulze & Radochla. If Euskaltel wanted to have a cozy little Basque squad, they should have aimed for a PCT license---which is fine. Or they should have kept guys like Castroviejo---which they did not because of a lack of money. Without money, without sufficient talent, you cannot enter the World Tour. Don't blame the system, blame the Euskaltel team.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If that would be true, Euskaltel shouldn't have given a contract to Schulze & Radochla. If Euskaltel wanted to have a cozy little Basque squad, they should have aimed for a PCT license---which is fine. Or they should have kept guys like Castroviejo---which they did not because of a lack of money. Without money, without sufficient talent, you cannot enter the World Tour. Don't blame the system, blame the Euskaltel team.

Did Cazaux not say that perhaps it would have been preferable for Euskaltel to be ProContinental and keep their soul? Because I agree with that too.

The system is the problem, Euskaltel are just the most obvious representation of what's wrong with it because they are the team most rigidly tied to an identity. What's happened to Euskaltel is an allegorical representation of the sport because they are an exaggerated form of it: its history of local support and tight-knit organisations ripped up and thrown out in favour of big budget, soulless corporate golems. Like Cazaux said, Mikel Nieve has managed the top 10 of two GTs, the top 5 of the Tour de Suisse and won one of the toughest stages in recent memory... and that counts for less in the eyes of the UCI than somebody who can come 7th in a few bunch sprints in Poland and Beijing, or managing to improve your GC position in Catalunya by coming 25th in the bunch instead of 30th.

Éric Boyer was calling the UCI out on the stupidity of this system back in 2009, and the points system has only got more stupid since. In my opinion it should be based on the points the team obtained the previous year, not the points the team has going forward including those obtained by new signings (thus rendering even the best domestiques more or less worthless), because if you sign for a new team that's your call, not mine. And if that means Euskaltel get 'relegated' that's fine, they should have done better in 2012, and can recruit to try to do so in 2013. If Lionel Messi signs for Deportivo Álaves, they don't get promoted because of the goals he scored for Barcelona.