Transfers and Rumours 2013 > 2014

[SKSemtex]

Peter Velits - BMC. Great news.

 

[all_in]

Peter Velits - BMC. Great news.

It's official?

 

[SKSemtex]

it should be official next week - according this interview the contract should be signed next week.

http://www.cycling-info.sk/aktuality-zo-sveta-cyklistiky-clanky/1419-peter-velits-do-bmc

 

[greenedge]

How does Slagter fits with Garmin? With Martin and Hesjedal for the Ardennes...

Maybe for AGR and numbers is strength.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

garmin keep getting riders that just don't have it

 

[LaFlorecita]

Peter Velits - BMC. Great news.

How is that great news. Everyone that goes to bmc start sucking.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

How is that great news. Everyone that goes to bmc start sucking.

and he already sucks to begin with

 

[Gotland]

well if maltiv is the souce I ball bs. no rider almost anywhere makes 2 million a year. for instance valverde makes just that

According to dn.no 1,6 M per year. But it's partially performance based.

In norweigan: http://www.dn.no/dnaktiv/article2642650.ece

 

[Netserk]

Peter Velits - BMC. Great news.

Lol what a fail. (for BMC)

 

[karlboss]

According to dn.no 1,6 M per year. But it's partially performance based.

In norweigan: http://www.dn.no/dnaktiv/article2642650.ece

From which number? I don't speak norweigan, but it seems to say he made 6.2 million kroner in 2012, which is 700000 at todays exchange rate, which is more or less what i'd expect.

 

[Netserk]

From which number? I don't speak norweigan, but it seems to say he made 6.2 million kroner in 2012, which is 700000 at todays exchange rate, which is more or less what i'd expect.

The 6.2 refers to EBH Holding. Further down the article:

Etter det avisen erfarer betaler Team Sky Edvald Boasson Hagen rundt 13 millioner kroner i året. Lønnen er prestasjonsbasert, og avhenger bare av egne prestasjoner.

Which would make it 1.66M €

 

[BigMac]

How is that great news. Everyone that goes to bmc start sucking.

Cadel did great, although now he sure sucks them wheels.

 

[Afrank]

yes he is. that's why quintana will now make 2 million. he wanted at leats same as valverde

Movistar should really find the funds for Quintana in Valverde's salary instead of getting rid of Costa.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Movistar should really find the funds for Quintana in Valverde's salary instead of getting rid of Costa.

true. but valverde;s contract still continues next year.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

garmin keep getting riders that just don't have it

Garmin are a relatively small budget team and they simply don't have the money to sign established stars often, if ever. But in this case, I don't see how Slagter is a bad signing, unless they are paying him a team leader's wage. You can't fill a 30 rider roster with guys who seriously expect to win big races. Slagter strikes me as a more than useful domestique who may also be capable of picking up an occasional win himself. Most teams would be happy to have him.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

and he already sucks to begin with

"Sucks" is a bit unkind, but at this point in his career his 2nd on GC at the Vuelta a few years ago looks like one of the great freak results of recent times.

 

[SKSemtex]

How is that great news. Everyone that goes to bmc start sucking.

still much better then pulling Cav up and down the hills

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

Felline to Trek confirmed.

 

[Afrank]

That's good to hear. Glad that Trek is looking to bring in some young guys that can bring in some good results for the team. They just need to phase out all or most of the old guys that can't get the results anymore.

 

[Netserk]

Garmin are a relatively small budget team and they simply don't have the money to sign established stars often, if ever. But in this case, I don't see how Slagter is a bad signing, unless they are paying him a team leader's wage. You can't fill a 30 rider roster with guys who seriously expect to win big races. Slagter strikes me as a more than useful domestique who may also be capable of picking up an occasional win himself. Most teams would be happy to have him.

They have a bigger budget than Movistar...

 

[Gloin22]

Your source and figures?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

They have a bigger budget than Movistar...

According to some chart (of perhaps dubious provenance) that was posted here a couple of years ago, Garmin and Saxo were right down the bottom of the WT budget league along with the French teams. And Vaughters is forever pointing out that teams like Sky can pay domestiques money that Garmin's leaders would love to get.

That all fits with their signing history - ie pretty much nobody who was already established as an upcoming star or as a regular winner still at their peak has ever signed with them - so I tend to believe it. They The only partial exception I can think of was Hushovd when they got the chance to pick over the bones of the Cervelo Test Team. Their leaders are almost always guys they brought through.

Perhaps Movistar are another lowish budget team but one that overperforms in a huge way. They are, after all, in a very strong position in other, non-budget related ways, as the last big team standing in a drastically weakened Spanish domestic scene and as by far the biggest Spanish speaking team. They have a huge natural "catchment area" for young riders. And of course they signed Quintana and Costa young, which is down to being smart rather than having money. I have to admit though, that I always thought of them as a mid budget team rather than a low budget one.

 

[Netserk]

Your source and figures?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-16/froome-s-bskyb-backed-cycling-team-nears-lead-in-pay-race.html

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-16/froome-s-bskyb-backed-cycling-team-nears-lead-in-pay-race.html

It's worth noting though that some teams figures are two years older than those of others (Movistar for instance have a 2011 figure listed), and also that the number is for salaries only, not total budget. Still interesting though and it points towards a "two speed" budget race, with the like of Sky and BMC having twice the cash of the like of Movistar or Garmin.

On another note, I hadn't actually realised just how important their dominance of the Spanish season is to Movistar's (astonishing) win tally. 57(!) wins over the last two seasons, of which 29 were in Spain.

 

[Netserk]

The point is that Movistar is a mid-low budget team (In the WT), yet are amongst the top-5 measured by performance, with leaders like Valverde, Quintana and Costa this year.