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Stilletto said:
So one team folding in the top 2 divisions
Will any of the Colombia riders cross the pond and ride in Europe?
ranked from CQ but included PCS ranking

CQ118/PCS142 Rodolfo Torres -1987 (5 top 3 2015) maybe the most interesting rider, 32nd in the Vuelta, surely could be Pro Tour material.
CQ255/PCS311 Miguel Rubiano -1984 (1 top 3 2015) another experienced rider, 70th in the Vuelta, has been in Europe before.
CQ351/PCS439 Carlos J. Quintero -1986 finished 92nd Vuelta
CQ405/PCS357 Leo Duque -1980 (3 top 3 2015) experienced rider who completed and finished 60th in Vuelta, has been in Europe before.
CQ406/PCS402 Alex Cano -1983
CQ578/PCS603 Walter Pedraza -1981 finished 136th Vuelta, experienced rider, will probably get you a top 3 in Colombian races ;)
CQ695/PCS608 Fabio Duarte -1986 (1 top 3 2015) the talent, could he actually turn out useful to any team?
CQ729/PCS730 Daniel Felipe Martinez -1996!
CQ996/PCS802 Edwin Avila -1989
CQ1031/PCS914 Brayan Ramirez -1992 (1 top 3 2015) finished 127th in the Vuelta
CQ1165/PCS1057 Jorge Camilo Castiblanco
CQ1219/PCS1158 Juan Pablo Valencia -1988 finished 87th Vuelta
CQ1338/PCS1083 Juan Sebastian Molano -1994
CQ1536/PCS2017 Edwin Fabian Diaz -1994
CQ1807/PCS1842 Jose C. Sarmiento -1987 has been in Europe before.

the rest not worth mentioning or?
Dont know to much about rider types these are but surely we could see some guys receiving a contract elsewhere?
Rodolfo should indeed have zero problems finding a WorldTour team, neither should Dani Martinez. He is one of the more impressive riders this season to me. What he did as a teenager this year is unbelievable.
 
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Movitrain said:
Now Movi-Twitter made it official.

Carlos Alberto "Bananito" Betancur to Movistar. :cool:

Low risk (given his circumstances it's reasonable to assume he's come pretty cheap) with potentially a very high reward. Nice signing. Giro?

EDIT - Ah, not sure I'd have given him a 2 year contract though...
 
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Bjorn Thurau to Wanty. I think that's a good thing for both sides. I saw it on Wanty's Facebook page.
 
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DNP-Old said:
Stilletto said:
So one team folding in the top 2 divisions
Will any of the Colombia riders cross the pond and ride in Europe?
ranked from CQ but included PCS ranking

CQ118/PCS142 Rodolfo Torres -1987 (5 top 3 2015) maybe the most interesting rider, 32nd in the Vuelta, surely could be Pro Tour material.
CQ255/PCS311 Miguel Rubiano -1984 (1 top 3 2015) another experienced rider, 70th in the Vuelta, has been in Europe before.
CQ351/PCS439 Carlos J. Quintero -1986 finished 92nd Vuelta
CQ405/PCS357 Leo Duque -1980 (3 top 3 2015) experienced rider who completed and finished 60th in Vuelta, has been in Europe before.
CQ406/PCS402 Alex Cano -1983
CQ578/PCS603 Walter Pedraza -1981 finished 136th Vuelta, experienced rider, will probably get you a top 3 in Colombian races ;)
CQ695/PCS608 Fabio Duarte -1986 (1 top 3 2015) the talent, could he actually turn out useful to any team?
CQ729/PCS730 Daniel Felipe Martinez -1996!
CQ996/PCS802 Edwin Avila -1989
CQ1031/PCS914 Brayan Ramirez -1992 (1 top 3 2015) finished 127th in the Vuelta
CQ1165/PCS1057 Jorge Camilo Castiblanco
CQ1219/PCS1158 Juan Pablo Valencia -1988 finished 87th Vuelta
CQ1338/PCS1083 Juan Sebastian Molano -1994
CQ1536/PCS2017 Edwin Fabian Diaz -1994
CQ1807/PCS1842 Jose C. Sarmiento -1987 has been in Europe before.

the rest not worth mentioning or?
Dont know to much about rider types these are but surely we could see some guys receiving a contract elsewhere?
Rodolfo should indeed have zero problems finding a WorldTour team, neither should Dani Martinez. He is one of the more impressive riders this season to me. What he did as a teenager this year is unbelievable.

Not just good, but consistent too
 
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Hakkapelit said:
nobilis said:
Bjorn Thurau to Wanty. I think that's a good thing for both sides. I saw it on Wanty's Facebook page.
Sure their calender is the ideal for him?

They're also trying to diversify their calendar but they'e not getting all the invitations they want.
 
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Eoin McCarthy (An Post) retires. This was his first and only season at Conti level. It didn't work out, so he's going back home and will just race for fun. This is of note because An Post have now lost four of this year's five Irish riders and the fifth, Jack Wilson, hasn't announced if he's staying.

I'd expect a number of Irish domestic riders to get an opportunity next season, because the sponsors would probably not be at all happy with a team devoid of Irish riders.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
Eoin McCarthy (An Post) retires. This was his first and only season at Conti level. It didn't work out, so he's going back home and will just race for fun. This is of note because An Post have now lost four of this year's five Irish riders and the fifth, Jack Wilson, hasn't announced if he's staying.

I'd expect a number of Irish domestic riders to get an opportunity next season, because the sponsors would probably not be at all happy with a team devoid of Irish riders.

No-one has been announced as coming into the team. And with Alastair Slater leaving and Josh Edmondson not apparently under contract for next year, British sponsors (Bradley Wiggins Foundation, others?) might be going too. Is there a list of conti teams for 2016? Do An Post exist anymore?!
 
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TMP402 said:
Zinoviev Letter said:
Eoin McCarthy (An Post) retires. This was his first and only season at Conti level. It didn't work out, so he's going back home and will just race for fun. This is of note because An Post have now lost four of this year's five Irish riders and the fifth, Jack Wilson, hasn't announced if he's staying.

I'd expect a number of Irish domestic riders to get an opportunity next season, because the sponsors would probably not be at all happy with a team devoid of Irish riders.

No-one has been announced as coming into the team. And with Alastair Slater leaving and Josh Edmondson not apparently under contract for next year, British sponsors (Bradley Wiggins Foundation, others?) might be going too. Is there a list of conti teams for 2016? Do An Post exist anymore?!

There's no indication that the team is disbanding, or that the two main sponsors (or, as is typical of Conti teams, the whole host of minor sponsors) are dropping them. They just seem to have got unlucky with their current batch of Irish riders: The best of them is off to the World Tour (Mullen), the second best (Dunne) decided to go to a British Conti outfit and two of the others decided, probably rightly, that they just weren't going to make it as pros and retired.

Slater didn't do much this year. Edmondson, well who the hell knows what's going on there? Big talent, seems like a flake, who knows when and where he'll turn up again.

There's often a pretty big turnover of fringe players (McCarthy, Slater, Downey etc) at the larger Conti teams. As well as that, An Post usually lose their best rider or two to WT or PCT teams, which is part of the reason why they exist. They also aren't ever able to contract those riders with serious ambitions to get to or get back to a higher level immediately until it becomes clear that no team in the top divisions is biting - so for instance they announced Kruopis at the last minute this year and Edmondson not until March.

Basically, there's nothing unusual about them losing this many riders. The unusual part is that most of them are from their Irish contingent, which would not go down well with the (Irish) sponsors. Stickybottle have already reported that they are in talks with a couple of new Irish riders. If you are a young domestic rider in Ireland right now you'll probably never have a better chance to land a ride at a team you may not be good enough for. The talent pool isn't very deep, but An Post will want some locals on board.
 
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thehook said:
Velolover2 said:

Doubt it. He is actually being smart. Alberto is in his final season. A Sagan is on a big contract. Maybe they don't like any riders they see out there. If they are not a big upgrade over the current dome. Then why blow the money?

As a general rule, I'd agree with that. And I have no idea what money is or isn't available. But Tinkov have two of the best riders in the sport and a very patchy team to support them. Both Contador and Sagan are likely to find themselves on their own at key moments and that's hardly a smart way to get the best return from their giant contracts.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
thehook said:
Velolover2 said:

Doubt it. He is actually being smart. Alberto is in his final season. A Sagan is on a big contract. Maybe they don't like any riders they see out there. If they are not a big upgrade over the current dome. Then why blow the money?

As a general rule, I'd agree with that. And I have no idea what money is or isn't available. But Tinkov have two of the best riders in the sport and a very patchy team to support them. Both Contador and Sagan are likely to find themselves on their own at key moments and that's hardly a smart way to get the best return from their giant contracts.
Majka
Kreuziger
Rogers
Kiserlovski
Bennati
Hernandez
Tosatto
Boaro
McCarthy
Etc
:rolleyes:
 
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That's still a patchy sqaud compared to other teams, 42x16ss.

Sky's 9th best climber is better than their 3rd best. Etixx's 6th best classic man is better than their 2nd best.
 
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It does not matter if on paper Sky's 9th man is better than their 3rd. Contador can just sit on Sky's train and if, like in 2013, his best man is stronger than Froome's best man, he's got absolutely nothing to worry about. Sky often have the numbers but they just haven't got a single clue how to use them to dispatch of a Contador in top shape. If Froome can't drop him mano a mano they are done.
 
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42x16ss said:
Zinoviev Letter said:
thehook said:
Velolover2 said:

Doubt it. He is actually being smart. Alberto is in his final season. A Sagan is on a big contract. Maybe they don't like any riders they see out there. If they are not a big upgrade over the current dome. Then why blow the money?

As a general rule, I'd agree with that. And I have no idea what money is or isn't available. But Tinkov have two of the best riders in the sport and a very patchy team to support them. Both Contador and Sagan are likely to find themselves on their own at key moments and that's hardly a smart way to get the best return from their giant contracts.
Majka
Kreuziger
Rogers
Kiserlovski
Bennati
Hernandez
Tosatto
Boaro
McCarthy
Etc
:rolleyes:
You forgot about Trofimov :)
Kreuziger, Majka, Kiserlovski, Trofimov with Mick as road captain would be a pretty deadly squad as long as they are in top shape.
 
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WheelofGear said:
That's still a patchy sqaud compared to other teams, 42x16ss.

Sky's 9th best climber is better than their 3rd best. Etixx's 6th best classic man is better than their 2nd best.
Huh? A fully fit Majka and Kreuziger can match their opponents on Sky except Froome and possibly Landa/Thomas who've only climbed with the best at one GT.
 
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42x16ss said:
WheelofGear said:
That's still a patchy sqaud compared to other teams, 42x16ss.

Sky's 9th best climber is better than their 3rd best. Etixx's 6th best classic man is better than their 2nd best.
Huh? A fully fit Majka and Kreuziger can match their opponents on Sky except Froome and possibly Landa/Thomas who've only climbed with the best at one GT.
Kreuziger will never get close to his shape of his early years. The guy was an early bloomer. He is now a hill rider.

Froome, Landa, Nieve, Henao, Thomas, Poels, König are definitely better climbers. So is Intxausti. And perhaps even Kennaugh and Boswell.

Majka is another story. But he is their third leader, not a helper.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
It does not matter if on paper Sky's 9th man is better than their 3rd. Contador can just sit on Sky's train and if, like in 2013, his best man is stronger than Froome's best man, he's got absolutely nothing to worry about. Sky often have the numbers but they just haven't got a single clue how to use them to dispatch of a Contador in top shape. If Froome can't drop him mano a mano they are done.
I guess you are right about that.

But I think Sky would be even stronger if they began using rabbits such as Henao or Poels to give Froome some extra power after he has launched his attack and I doubt you want that to happen. :D
 
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WheelofGear said:
LaFlorecita said:
It does not matter if on paper Sky's 9th man is better than their 3rd. Contador can just sit on Sky's train and if, like in 2013, his best man is stronger than Froome's best man, he's got absolutely nothing to worry about. Sky often have the numbers but they just haven't got a single clue how to use them to dispatch of a Contador in top shape. If Froome can't drop him mano a mano they are done.
I guess you are right about that.

But I think Sky would be even stronger if they began using rabbits such as Henao or Poels to give Froome some extra power after he has launched his attack and I doubt you want that to happen. :D
Like I said none of that matters if Contador can follow Froome, and if Contador can't follow Froome those "rabbits" don't matter because Froome would beat Contador with or without rabbits.
 

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