Transfers and Rumours 2015 > 2016

[MatParker117]

Attempt No2:

In: Peters, Moscon, Geoghegan Hart, Kwiatkowski, Landa, Intxausti, Golas

Out: Wiggins, Pate, Zandio, Earle, Sutton, Boswell, Eisel

 

[DBotero]

Re:

Attempt No2:

In: Peters, Moscon, Geoghegan Hart, Kwiatkowski, Landa, Intxausti, Golas

Out: Wiggins, Pate, Zandio, Earle, Sutton, Boswell, Eisel

He looked rather decent this year,i think he'll stay.One of Seb.Henao,Viviani or Nieve might leave instead.

 

[Vasilis]

Re: Re:

Attempt No2:

In: Peters, Moscon, Geoghegan Hart, Kwiatkowski, Landa, Intxausti, Golas

Out: Wiggins, Pate, Zandio, Earle, Sutton, Boswell, Eisel

He looked rather decent this year,i think he'll stay.One of Seb.Henao,Viviani or Nieve might leave instead.

Yeah, I'd definitely keep him too. I heard somewhere Eisel might join up with Cav again, but I hope they keep Boswell and let him ride the Vuelta this year.

 

[jaylew]

Re: Re:

More and more pointing toward Kwiatkowski to Sky:
http://www.sport.pl/kolarstwo/1,64993,18362309,tour-de-france-szef-grupy-sky-dla-sport-pl-michalowi-kwiatkowskiemu.html#MT_3zdj

Would love it, seeing the progress that Thomas has made

Even though I am a huge fan of Etixx, I think a change of scenery would be perfect for him. They still haven't figured out how to keep him in shape for his biggest goals of the year. In 2015 he was even struggeling in the Ardennes. Of course he's also to blame for this but his team did not do a great job so far with his developement. Maybe Sky can get even more out of him. Who knows? ...

But Sky makes no sense if one of the main reasons Kwia wants to leave is for GT aspirations as there's so much competition for those there.

Lefevre:

Etixx-Quick Step manager Patrick Lefevere has admitted Michal Kwiatkowski will leave the team. "Because I asked him not to aim for GC."

"Two years ago Kwiatkowski completely cracked in order to be eleventh in the Tour. That's why I advised him not to go for GC. He was pretty mad at me," he told Sporza.

"That's one of the reasons that Kwiatkowski will leave us. But a rider is like a car. You can have a big engine but you also have your body. If he is 10 kilograms heavier than the real climbers, Quintana will always drop him."

I think Lefevre's right. Why does every great non-sprinter think they can go for GT GC? There are plenty of big one day and week long stage races to focus on.

 

[b.broadhurst]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sources-say-landa-intxausti-and-the-izagirre-brothers-to-join-team-sky

Very surprised by this from Sky.

But how many people have decided to leave Sky?

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

More and more pointing toward Kwiatkowski to Sky:
http://www.sport.pl/kolarstwo/1,64993,18362309,tour-de-france-szef-grupy-sky-dla-sport-pl-michalowi-kwiatkowskiemu.html#MT_3zdj

Would love it, seeing the progress that Thomas has made

Even though I am a huge fan of Etixx, I think a change of scenery would be perfect for him. They still haven't figured out how to keep him in shape for his biggest goals of the year. In 2015 he was even struggeling in the Ardennes. Of course he's also to blame for this but his team did not do a great job so far with his developement. Maybe Sky can get even more out of him. Who knows? ...

But Sky makes no sense if one of the main reasons Kwia wants to leave is for GT aspirations as there's so much competition for those there.

Lefevre:

Etixx-Quick Step manager Patrick Lefevere has admitted Michal Kwiatkowski will leave the team. "Because I asked him not to aim for GC."

"Two years ago Kwiatkowski completely cracked in order to be eleventh in the Tour. That's why I advised him not to go for GC. He was pretty mad at me," he told Sporza.

"That's one of the reasons that Kwiatkowski will leave us. But a rider is like a car. You can have a big engine but you also have your body. If he is 10 kilograms heavier than the real climbers, Quintana will always drop him."

I think Lefevre's right. Why does every great non-sprinter think they can go for GT GC? There are plenty of big one day and week long stage races to focus on.

Yeah totally agree with you and Lefevre. Kwia can have a very solid career away from GTs. He's already halfway achieved a very good elite career.

 

[Pricey_sky]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sources-say-landa-intxausti-and-the-izagirre-brothers-to-join-team-sky

Very surprised by this from Sky.

But how many people have decided to leave Sky?

That is absolutely crazy, so sky offered less money but I wonder if the rumours about the other trio are true if that swayed the balance in sky's favour.

 

[b.broadhurst]

Contracted to Sky for 2016 (12): Froome Sergio Henao Thomas Swift Lopez Puccio Roche Konig Viviani Nordhaug Poels Fenn

No Contract for 2016 (16): Nieve Porte Kiryienka Sivtsov Deignan Stannard Rowe Kennaugh Sebastian Henao Eisel Zandio Pate Knees Sutton Boswell Earle

Rumoured in for 2016 (9): Kwiatkowski Golas (Poles come together apparently) Landa Intxausti J.Izagirre G.Izagirre Moscon Peters Geoghegan-Hart

This therefore requires 7 departures and my guess would be: Porte Eisel Zandio Pate Knees Sutton Earle

 

[TMP402]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sources-say-landa-intxausti-and-the-izagirre-brothers-to-join-team-sky

Very surprised by this from Sky.

But how many people have decided to leave Sky?

Just can't see how they accommodate both four new Spanish riders, and three neo-pros, and Kwia. Surely if they bring in Landa, Nieve will be part of his train, so they'd have to be totally ruthless to others like Zandio and Lopez that Landa might also want. This strikes me...

"he has publicly stated his will to leave the Kazakh squad, where he hasn’t felt supported neither during his period of severe illness last winter nor during his breakout at the Giro."

...as a failure of Astana's internal politics. They have a sort of self-contained Italian faction, and a Kazakh faction, so maybe Landa is insufficiently cared for by either.

 

[cantpedal]

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Oh for christ's sake it's July 2015 and already Sky's 2016 GT teams are being discussed. What's it with you Sky fans, are you really that obsessed with their GT lineups?
And haven't you learned from the previous 10000000 times you guys were speculating months ahead, that you're never right.

it's taken me awhile but I'm starting to love you posts

 

[b.broadhurst]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sources-say-landa-intxausti-and-the-izagirre-brothers-to-join-team-sky

Very surprised by this from Sky.

But how many people have decided to leave Sky?

Just can't see how they accommodate both four new Spanish riders, and three neo-pros, and Kwia. Surely if they bring in Landa, Nieve will be part of his train, so they'd have to be totally ruthless to others like Zandio and Lopez that Landa might also want. This strikes me...

"he has publicly stated his will to leave the Kazakh squad, where he hasn’t felt supported neither during his period of severe illness last winter nor during his breakout at the Giro."

...as a failure of Astana's internal politics. They have a sort of self-contained Italian faction, and a Kazakh faction, so maybe Landa is insufficiently cared for by either.

Easy to accommodate by releasing the following 7 riders - Porte, Eisel, Zandio, Pate, Knees, Sutton and Earle.

 

[damian13ster]

Re: Re:

More and more pointing toward Kwiatkowski to Sky:
http://www.sport.pl/kolarstwo/1,64993,18362309,tour-de-france-szef-grupy-sky-dla-sport-pl-michalowi-kwiatkowskiemu.html#MT_3zdj

Would love it, seeing the progress that Thomas has made

Even though I am a huge fan of Etixx, I think a change of scenery would be perfect for him. They still haven't figured out how to keep him in shape for his biggest goals of the year. In 2015 he was even struggeling in the Ardennes. Of course he's also to blame for this but his team did not do a great job so far with his developement. Maybe Sky can get even more out of him. Who knows? ...

But Sky makes no sense if one of the main reasons Kwia wants to leave is for GT aspirations as there's so much competition for those there.

Lefevre:

Etixx-Quick Step manager Patrick Lefevere has admitted Michal Kwiatkowski will leave the team. "Because I asked him not to aim for GC."

"Two years ago Kwiatkowski completely cracked in order to be eleventh in the Tour. That's why I advised him not to go for GC. He was pretty mad at me," he told Sporza.

"That's one of the reasons that Kwiatkowski will leave us. But a rider is like a car. You can have a big engine but you also have your body. If he is 10 kilograms heavier than the real climbers, Quintana will always drop him."

I think Lefevre's right. Why does every great non-sprinter think they can go for GT GC? There are plenty of big one day and week long stage races to focus on.

Yeah totally agree with you and Lefevre. Kwia can have a very solid career away from GTs. He's already halfway achieved a very good elite career.

Kwiatkowski is patient and hard working. He knows that he wont lead GT for next 2-3 seasons and will go for classics until then.
He just stopped developing at Etixx so he changed teams.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Kwia is probably looking for the Thomas model in GTs than being a cog for Cav

 

[jaylew]

Re: Re:

More and more pointing toward Kwiatkowski to Sky:
http://www.sport.pl/kolarstwo/1,64993,18362309,tour-de-france-szef-grupy-sky-dla-sport-pl-michalowi-kwiatkowskiemu.html#MT_3zdj

Would love it, seeing the progress that Thomas has made

Even though I am a huge fan of Etixx, I think a change of scenery would be perfect for him. They still haven't figured out how to keep him in shape for his biggest goals of the year. In 2015 he was even struggeling in the Ardennes. Of course he's also to blame for this but his team did not do a great job so far with his developement. Maybe Sky can get even more out of him. Who knows? ...

But Sky makes no sense if one of the main reasons Kwia wants to leave is for GT aspirations as there's so much competition for those there.

Lefevre:

Etixx-Quick Step manager Patrick Lefevere has admitted Michal Kwiatkowski will leave the team. "Because I asked him not to aim for GC."

"Two years ago Kwiatkowski completely cracked in order to be eleventh in the Tour. That's why I advised him not to go for GC. He was pretty mad at me," he told Sporza.

"That's one of the reasons that Kwiatkowski will leave us. But a rider is like a car. You can have a big engine but you also have your body. If he is 10 kilograms heavier than the real climbers, Quintana will always drop him."

I think Lefevre's right. Why does every great non-sprinter think they can go for GT GC? There are plenty of big one day and week long stage races to focus on.

Yeah totally agree with you and Lefevre. Kwia can have a very solid career away from GTs. He's already halfway achieved a very good elite career.

Kwiatkowski is patient and hard working. He knows that he wont lead GT for next 2-3 seasons and will go for classics until then.
He just stopped developing at Etixx so he changed teams.

Yeah, that's why.

 

[GP Blanco]

Lotto-Soudal signed Jelle Wallays. I am curious what he will do in the monuments. He proved himself in the semiclassics but what is his potential in de Ronde and Roubaix? A deluxe domestique for Benoot?

 

[gazr99]

Re: Re:

Attempt No2:

In: Peters, Moscon, Geoghegan Hart, Kwiatkowski, Landa, Intxausti, Golas

Out: Wiggins, Pate, Zandio, Earle, Sutton, Boswell, Eisel

He looked rather decent this year,i think he'll stay.One of Seb.Henao,Viviani or Nieve might leave instead.

I would say Sergio Henao instead of Seb, as he's in a similar boat to where Uran was thinking he's a better GC rider than he actually is. Whereas Seb is still young and can grow, Nieve & Viviani were good at the Giro and Boswell has looked good this year

 

[Kazistuta]

Sebastian Henao dissapointed greatly in the Giro, and Sergio Henao has just returned from a difficult injury and managed to show flashes of greatness shortly thereafter. If I were to pick, I'd keep big Henao.

 

[MatParker117]

So let's try this once more

In: Hart, Peters, Moscon, Kwiatkowski, Golas, Gorka, Ion, Landa, Intxausti

Out: Porte, Eisel, Zandio, Pate, Knees, Sutton and Earle

Leading to the following Terrifying prospect in the Grand Tours:

Giro-Landa, Konig, Nieve, Gorka, Intxausti, Kiryienka, Poels, Puccio, Viviani

Tour-Froome, Landa, Roche, Thomas, Kennaugh, Ion, Konig, Kwiatkowski, Stannard

Vuelta-Thomas, Roche, Poels, Gorka, Ion, Intxausti, Kiryienka, Swift, Viviani

Would Sky 2016 be the strongest GC team ever if this pans out? Also might see a lot of Basque fans in black next year.

 

[Ricco']

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Sebastian Henao dissapointed greatly in the Giro, and Sergio Henao has just returned from a difficult injury and managed to show flashes of greatness shortly thereafter. If I were to pick, I'd keep big Henao.

Seb Henao was sick as far as I know in the start of the Giro and he showed some signs of recovery towards the later stages of the race.

 

[gazr99]

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Sebastian Henao dissapointed greatly in the Giro, and Sergio Henao has just returned from a difficult injury and managed to show flashes of greatness shortly thereafter. If I were to pick, I'd keep big Henao.

Sebastian is 21 and pretty much a neo-pro, Sergio is 27 & is in a similar situation to when Uran left, i.e doesn't seem keen on being a domestique but not good enough to win a GT

 

[Ricco']

As I wrote days ago, I have a feeling that the Henaos are on their way out. First it was Sergio's exclusion of the Tour, after all the reconnaisance he did with Froome and after saying many times that he was looking forward to help Chris to win the yellow jersey (and his level at Suisse wasn't that bad).

I'm looking forward to see Sky racing teams for San Sebastian, Poland and the Vuelta. I was expecting to see Sergio in their line-up of San Sebastian as preparation for the Vuelta, but only his cousin is there. Maybe Poland for him? He should be very fresh to the spanish GT and one of the top guns with less racing in his legs.

 

[TMP402]

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As I wrote days ago, I have a feeling that the Henaos are on their way out. First it was Sergio's exclusion of the Tour, after all the reconnaisance he did with Froome and after saying many times that he was looking forward to help Chris to win the yellow jersey (and his level at Suisse wasn't that bad).

I'm looking forward to see Sky racing teams for San Sebastian, Poland and the Vuelta. I was expecting to see Sergio in their line-up of San Sebastian as preparation for the Vuelta, but only his cousin is there. Maybe Poland for him? He should be very fresh to the spanish GT and one of the top guns with less racing in his legs.

Well unfortunately for Sergio he went into California as a, if not the, favourite, and into Suisse as co-leader with Thomas. In both cases I didn't see anything that would make one think he was at a good enough level for the Tour. In California queen stage he didn't make up the ten seconds he needed to gain on the 22 year old untested Alaphilippe but lost 23, and finished with the same time as Boswell. In Suisse queen stage he finished 90 seconds down on Pinot and 55 down on a recovering Pozzovivo.

 

[DBotero]

Re: Re:

As I wrote days ago, I have a feeling that the Henaos are on their way out. First it was Sergio's exclusion of the Tour, after all the reconnaisance he did with Froome and after saying many times that he was looking forward to help Chris to win the yellow jersey (and his level at Suisse wasn't that bad).

I'm looking forward to see Sky racing teams for San Sebastian, Poland and the Vuelta. I was expecting to see Sergio in their line-up of San Sebastian as preparation for the Vuelta, but only his cousin is there. Maybe Poland for him? He should be very fresh to the spanish GT and one of the top guns with less racing in his legs.

Well unfortunately for Sergio he went into California as a, if not the, favourite, and into Suisse as co-leader with Thomas. In both cases I didn't see anything that would make one think he was at a good enough level for the Tour. In California queen stage he didn't make up the ten seconds he needed to gain on the 22 year old untested Alaphilippe but lost 23, and finished with the same time as Boswell. In Suisse queen stage he finished 90 seconds down on Pinot and 55 down on a recovering Pozzovivo.

He wasn't co-leader in Suisse,everybody expected to be but he was just working for G. there.I think he was decent enough for Le Tour but Sky preferred Konig over him.Like in Giro were they picked Eisel over Lopez,strange choices at least for me.

 

[bigcog]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sources-say-landa-intxausti-and-the-izagirre-brothers-to-join-team-sky

Very surprised by this from Sky.

But how many people have decided to leave Sky?

That is absolutely crazy, so sky offered less money but I wonder if the rumours about the other trio are true if that swayed the balance in sky's favour.

What rumour ?

 

[Pricey_sky]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sources-say-landa-intxausti-and-the-izagirre-brothers-to-join-team-sky

Very surprised by this from Sky.

But how many people have decided to leave Sky?

That is absolutely crazy, so sky offered less money but I wonder if the rumours about the other trio are true if that swayed the balance in sky's favour.

What rumour ?

Intxausti and the Izagirre brothers also moving to Sky.