Transfers and Rumours 2016 > 2017

[Vroome.exe]

I wonder if Trentin is going to resign with etixx. In another team he could be a leader and deliver some great results.

 

[SKSemtex]

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They have some decent guys - Erviti, Castro, Malori etc. - but Bennati would be huge. Absolutely huge.[/quote]
Rojas is also a quality Dom for the flatlands[/quote]

Alot of ppeople claim that Movistar have a lot of good flat doms, but they have never proven themselves enough.
Granted Erviti is clearly a great rider, imo they have a lot of riders who could do well but that doesn't necessarily translate to definitely doing well.
They need to sign a Classics leader, as if we have serious cobbles on the route in 2017 Quintana is going to be desperate for a top specialist. Of which his rivals Contador (Degenkolb, Stuyven), Porte (GVA) and Froome (Rowe and Stannard) all have.[/quote]

Rojas is a good flatlands Dom and has shown that in other races, Movistar should of taken him to the Tour in 2016/15.
Quintana handled the cobbles just fine in 2015 without a dedicated cobbles specialist in the team, they don't race the cobbles the same way in the Tour as they do in the cobbled races which is why the GC guys cope so well over them as a whole.[/quote]

In 2015 he was lucky there was a massive headwind which kept the big group together and the cobbles weren't as difficult as in 2014.
If he had raced in 2014 he would have lost the tour on stage 5.
Rojas is good, but not good enough to drag Quintana around on flat stages in serious cross winds or cobbles. Like we've seen Cancellara do with Andy Schelck, or Rogers do with Contador.[/quote]

I always thought it had been Sagan not Rogers

 

[TMP402]

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According to tuttobiciweb.it Daniele Bennati will probably join Movistar.

Vintage Unzue

In an interview of February:

What rider would you like to have in your team?
- [Meditate long]. There are many great professionals that I like. For example, I love Geraint Thomas, Bennati, Paulinho ... These riders are decisive in another teams year after year and are always reliable. Of those there are not many.

http://www.ciclo21.com/en-casa-de-unzue-y-ii-el-deseo-es-seguir-hasta-2019/

I wonder if we can expect Paulinho to Movistar as well then.

 

[TMP402]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

 

[TMP402]

Sky
Roche to BMC talked about
With Fenn and Konig also set to leave.

...

Taylor Phinney, Moreno Hofland, Sep Vanmarcke and Wilco Kelderman are all riders who's future is apparently yet to be decided.

Fenn is a good positioner of a sprinter who doesn't have a sprint train. I hope he gets a team. As for Phinney, I got the impression it's not merely whether he'll continue at BMC but whether he'll retire.

 

[laurensde+]

Puccio linked with Bahrain team.

Would be a big loss for Sky.
He's a great rider who is developing well.
He was great in the classics.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...rain-cycling-team-officially-announced-266782

I'd argue his there 3rd best pure flat rider. After Rowe and Stannard.
Also he is improving into one of the best riders in the word

As already said, huh about Puccio? Are you somehow mixing him up with Moscon?

 

[staubsauger]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

I guess they could even improve if they focus on the Italian racing calendar and maybe add some good riders for the sprints like the rumored Andrea Guardini!

Their 2015 ain't been too bad at all. But 2016 shows that a step behind might be a step forward ala Europcar 11/12!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

 

[kenk09]

Puccio would absolutely be a big loss for Sky. Whether he's 3rd or 15th best on the flat is irrelevant, what's true is he has been incredibly reliable on the flat, cobbles, wind, rain, hills, medium mountains, big races and small races. He's going to do really well if he gets chances at his new team.

 

[BigMac]

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According to tuttobiciweb.it Daniele Bennati will probably join Movistar.

Vintage Unzue

In an interview of February:

What rider would you like to have in your team?
- [Meditate long]. There are many great professionals that I like. For example, I love Geraint Thomas, Bennati, Paulinho ... These riders are decisive in another teams year after year and are always reliable. Of those there are not many.

http://www.ciclo21.com/en-casa-de-unzue-y-ii-el-deseo-es-seguir-hasta-2019/

I wonder if we can expect Paulinho to Movistar as well then.

More likely to go wherever Contador is going. They'll even retire at the same time, I bet.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

According to tuttobiciweb.it Daniele Bennati will probably join Movistar.

Vintage Unzue

In an interview of February:

What rider would you like to have in your team?
- [Meditate long]. There are many great professionals that I like. For example, I love Geraint Thomas, Bennati, Paulinho ... These riders are decisive in another teams year after year and are always reliable. Of those there are not many.

http://www.ciclo21.com/en-casa-de-unzue-y-ii-el-deseo-es-seguir-hasta-2019/

Paulinho wtf?
I hoped Bennati would go to Trek, it will be kind of shitty to see him at Movistar riding for Quintana and Piti, but at least it's better than Bahrain Torture Team which was rumoured.

 

[BigMac]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

Yeah, and historically Lampre leaving would be as tragic as Euskaltel. But they have become a parody of themselves, so I can't say I'm too bothered.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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More likely to go wherever Contador is going. They'll even retire at the same time, I bet.

I'm not so sure, in the press it was confirmed that Hernandez would come with Alberto plus another mystery rider, but since this rider wasn't named I thought it wasn't Paulinho, because they are the three "Lazy Coffee-drinking Amigos" (tm) it doesn't make sense to name 1 but not the other. I thought perhaps Navarro.
I hope Basso goes to Trek which was rumored as well.
And Toso

 

[TMP402]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

Yeah, and historically Lampre leaving would be as tragic as Euskaltel. But they have become a parody of themselves, so I can't say I'm too bothered.

I half agree with Flo but it's the sentimental and non-performance-related defence of failing industries throughout the generations. Yes I want an Italian WT team to exist but you can't just give Lampre free reign to f**k about because they're Italian. Besides, Astana is a proxy Italian team.

 

[Billie]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

Yeah, and historically Lampre leaving would be as tragic as Euskaltel. But they have become a parody of themselves, so I can't say I'm too bothered.

yes Copeland was a disaster for the team.

Hopefully Galbusera puts Saronni and Bontempi back in charge

 

[BigMac]

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More likely to go wherever Contador is going. They'll even retire at the same time, I bet.

I'm not so sure, in the press it was confirmed that Hernandez would come with Alberto plus another mystery rider, but since this rider wasn't named I thought it wasn't Paulinho, because they are the three "Lazy Coffee-drinking Amigos" (tm) it doesn't make sense to name 1 but not the other. I thought perhaps Navarro.
I hope Basso goes to Trek which was rumored as well.
And Toso

It was just a joke.

I hope Paulinho doesn't go with Contador. Sad to say, but he has become rather useless.

 

[janraaskalt3]

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

Trek is a bit Italianesque. Segafredo maybe stepping up and become main title sponsor.

 

[bigcog]

Puccio would absolutely be a big loss for Sky. Whether he's 3rd or 15th best on the flat is irrelevant, what's true is he has been incredibly reliable on the flat, cobbles, wind, rain, hills, medium mountains, big races and small races. He's going to do really well if he gets chances at his new team.

Yep he would be a big loss for Sky, seems to be developing well too.

 

[Jonhard]

Puccio has been useful for Viviani on occasion as well, in the Giro for example. But you wouldn't calll him irreplaceable.

 

[KyoGrey]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

The disappearance of top Spanish and Italian teams, with their place taken by Anglo-Saxon teams has something (or a lot) to do with the borefest and the lack of passion and romantic offensiveness in todays cycling.

Give me some more ONCE, Mapei, Kelme, Saeco, Euskaltel, Polti or Fassa Bortolo and less Sky, Cannondale, Orica or Dimension Data...

 

[TMP402]

The Bardiani-CSF team announced the renewal of contracts with eight of their riders though the 2017 season: Simone Andreetta, Enrico Barbin, Nicola Boem, Mirco Maestri, Nicola Ruffoni, Paolo Simion, Alessandro Tonelli and Edoardo Zardini.

They will be joined by Stefano Pirazzi, who earlier extended his contract, and neo-pros Giulio Ciccone, Lorenzo Rota and Simone Velasco, bringing the current tally for next year's team to 12. More signings will be announced in the coming weeks.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/transfer-news-etixx-quickstep-confirm-vermote-for-2017/

 

[jarne1404]

Dimitri Claeys (Wanty - Groupe Gobert) to Cofidis, confirmed by himself at Post-Tour criterium Herentals
Oliver Naesen (IAM Cycling) to AG2R, confirmed by himself at criterium Herentals

 

[StryderHells]

Lampre being PCT with a smaller budget isn't that bad, they will still get wildcards to all the big Italian races which should be enough to keep some quality riders in the squad.

Lampre moving down to PCT would not be a tragedy at all.

No more Italian teams at the highest level is a tragedy in and of itself.

The disappearance of top Spanish and Italian teams, with their place taken by Anglo-Saxon teams has something (or a lot) to do with the borefest and the lack of passion and romantic offensiveness in todays cycling.

Give me some more ONCE, Mapei, Kelme, Saeco, Euskaltel, Polti or Fassa Bortolo and less Sky, Cannondale, Orica or Dimension Data...

So the reason we didn't see alot of attacking in the Tour was because there wern't enough Spanish and Italian riders and teams?

 

[Oliwright]

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Puccio has been useful for Viviani on occasion as well, in the Giro for example. But you wouldn't calll him irreplaceable.

I see Puccio going a similar way to how Rowe developed at Sky.

 

[luckyboy]

Is this line from Benson's latest transfer article just badly-worded or have I missed out on something with Phinney?

Taylor Phinney – despite mid-season rumours – will ride on in 2017 but it is expected that he will not make a decision on his future until after the Olympic Games, where he is targeting the time trial.

Makes it seems like he could retire and I never saw or heard anything about that..