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He'd be nuts to stay at Sky, this year he was made to ride the tour and miss the Vuelta and next year you have Thomas frothing at the mouth for the Giro again, so he'd be competing with him for leadership again.
Movistar already have the next spanish GT hope - Soler ... just not confirmed yet :razz:
But for reals if Landa signs for Movi and then Soler rides a great Vuelta this year Landy will back at square 1.
But for reals if Landa signs for Movi and then Soler rides a great Vuelta this year Landy will back at square 1.
Kittel and Gaviria both want to stay with Quick Step. Kittel wants to know if Gaviria's staying and vice-versa.
I'm glad I'm not Lefevere. Pick one? Try to keep em both? Letting Gaviria go is not an option imo. But then again, Kittel racked up 13wins or so, including 4Tour stages. I suppose Lidl doesn't want to see the best German rider leave their team.
I'm glad I'm not Lefevere. Pick one? Try to keep em both? Letting Gaviria go is not an option imo. But then again, Kittel racked up 13wins or so, including 4Tour stages. I suppose Lidl doesn't want to see the best German rider leave their team.
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Sunweb to strengthen very well ... Vervaeke to the block of Tom and Theuns to lead in the Pavé, since Sinkeldam (best placed of the team in Paris Roubaix) goes to the FDJ.
Kittel goes to Katusha and Gaviria happens to be leader of the sprint, Coquard had to choose Lotto since Greipel is much older than Gaviria and thus had become the leader much earlier ...
Samamba said:
Sunweb to strengthen very well ... Vervaeke to the block of Tom and Theuns to lead in the Pavé, since Sinkeldam (best placed of the team in Paris Roubaix) goes to the FDJ.
Kittel goes to Katusha and Gaviria happens to be leader of the sprint, Coquard had to choose Lotto since Greipel is much older than Gaviria and thus had become the leader much earlier ...
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Why? Plenty of sprint races/stages on the calendar for 2 sprinters on the same team.
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Why? Plenty of sprint races/stages on the calendar for 2 sprinters on the same team.
BMC to hire well to support GVA, there is talk of Jurgen Roelandts (Lotto-Soudal) and Dries Devenyns, but Daniel Oss loses to Bora and Drucker to AG2R, thinking of another 1 or 2 names, GVA is still with a team best
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At Sky he's only clearly behind one rider in the pecking order, at Movistar he's behind two unless Valverde returns diminished. Sharing leadership with Thomas is better than getting water for Valverde.
I can only assume that Sky and Movistar are offering much more money than anywhere else, because in sporting terms these are the last teams in the peloton he should be on.
dusty red roads said:
At Sky he's only clearly behind one rider in the pecking order, at Movistar he's behind two unless Valverde returns diminished. Sharing leadership with Thomas is better than getting water for Valverde.
I can only assume that Sky and Movistar are offering much more money than anywhere else, because in sporting terms these are the last teams in the peloton he should be on.
Curious to know the future of Uran, Aru, Meintjes, Caruso, Martin, Nieve and Landa .... Nieve goes to Orica as it is already news. Caruso and Uran are associated with Bahrain, but Uran's result on the tour can change that. Aru is associated with UAE because Meintjes is thinking about going back to DD. Martin's departure was in Quick Step, but nothing is known about the team yet. Landa after what happened on the tour today is not on Sky, I think.
Sunweb is lining up great. They have a good hiring policy and always seem to make good signings.
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Terrible... unzue will try to turn him (just like quintana) in a indurain. I would love to see him in oricaPedroMonteiro said:
You have to wonder what on earth Landa and his agent are thinking.
The guy clearly wants freedom to be able to race how he likes and get support from the team yet goes from Nibali/Aru -> Froome/Thomas -> Valverde/Quintana. You could not have chosen 3 worst teams for what he supposedly wants.
At the end of the day you have to assume maybe what he actually wants is the $$$.
The guy clearly wants freedom to be able to race how he likes and get support from the team yet goes from Nibali/Aru -> Froome/Thomas -> Valverde/Quintana. You could not have chosen 3 worst teams for what he supposedly wants.
At the end of the day you have to assume maybe what he actually wants is the $$$.
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I guess that makes some sense for next year. But for the future? Quintana isn't going anywhere and will have the TDF on lockdown. What happens when the 2nd GT of the year rolls around aswell that Landa wants to do?
I sense another team move in another 1 or 2 years.
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I guess that makes some sense for next year. But for the future? Quintana isn't going anywhere and will have the TDF on lockdown. What happens when the 2nd GT of the year rolls around aswell that Landa wants to do?
I sense another team move in another 1 or 2 years.
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The big question is, how much does this take out of Movistar's budget for replacing the losses with Malori retiring as well - Castro has been rumoured to Sky, they're also looking at Jaime Rosón and the pick of the Lizarte guys this season are likely to be Jaime Castrillo and Sérgio Samitier, both of whom are climbers too, so it leaves them startlingly light on rouleurs and people for results outside of the climbing/stage racing realm if Valverde can't be back and being the Valverde that we know (caveat: Sessler and Zhygunou are also possibilities who are perhaps more versatile). They might have to expect a lot of Barbero and maybe Oliveira and Sütterlin, or try and lure somebody like Kiryienka back since Unzué loves to hire riders he's had before even if they're on the downturn, and pay over the odds for over the hill helpers with only a year or so left to give.
Maybe also thinking that Valverde is going to be 38 next season and coming off a serious injury. More than likely focusing on short stage races and one-day races will be easier as the longevity for a three week race is lesser. After this year it's likely to be a while before Nairito tries the Giro again, plus Movistar is a team which would be looking for a replacement leader in the coming years as Valverde's results aren't going to replace themselves. Moreno is getting old too, they don't have a bonanza sprinter, they've lost Ion Izagirre and are rumoured to lose Gorka too, and Bananito is a huge question mark as ever, so they need another source of major results and it's too early for Unzué to start relying on the likes of Soler and Carapaz just yet.Moviefan1203 said:
The big question is, how much does this take out of Movistar's budget for replacing the losses with Malori retiring as well - Castro has been rumoured to Sky, they're also looking at Jaime Rosón and the pick of the Lizarte guys this season are likely to be Jaime Castrillo and Sérgio Samitier, both of whom are climbers too, so it leaves them startlingly light on rouleurs and people for results outside of the climbing/stage racing realm if Valverde can't be back and being the Valverde that we know (caveat: Sessler and Zhygunou are also possibilities who are perhaps more versatile). They might have to expect a lot of Barbero and maybe Oliveira and Sütterlin, or try and lure somebody like Kiryienka back since Unzué loves to hire riders he's had before even if they're on the downturn, and pay over the odds for over the hill helpers with only a year or so left to give.
So Landa goes to Movistar and he gets the Giro Leadership. Will he be happy. I think not. Few teams have a strong full helper squad for a GT like Astana, Sky, Movistar but not for all three GTs in a year. Just look at Movistar. In the Giro they had a A squad whereas in TDF they are getting owned(Their best helper is Bananito 
). Most likely he will get a B squad. If he gets the lead how will he defend especially on the transition stages. He is no powerhouse TTer to chase all attackers. He would be better off in a team with decent helpers and with the ability to choose which GT as per his characteristics.
). Most likely he will get a B squad. If he gets the lead how will he defend especially on the transition stages. He is no powerhouse TTer to chase all attackers. He would be better off in a team with decent helpers and with the ability to choose which GT as per his characteristics.
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Which is essentially a post-Froome Sky. It's up to them whether their future is winning GTs or trying to win GTs with British riders (Yates', Carthy, Hart(?), ...).
IndianCyclist said:So Landa goes to Movistar and he gets the Giro Leadership. Will he be happy. I think not. Few teams have a strong full helper squad for a GT like Astana, Sky, Movistar but not for all three GTs in a year. Just look at Movistar. In the Giro they had a A squad whereas in TDF they are getting owned(Their best helper is Bananito
Which is essentially a post-Froome Sky. It's up to them whether their future is winning GTs or trying to win GTs with British riders (Yates', Carthy, Hart(?), ...).
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If Soler continues developing and can race in a GT at the level he showed in the spring, then there's him, Fernández, the aging but not yet useless Moreno, Herrada, Anacona, Amador, Betancur, they're rumoured to pick up Rosón too, plus of course they could always have both Quintana and Landa at one race and play the double card. They're weak this year because Unzué doesn't want to give Soler and Carapaz a baptism of fire at the Tour and Valverde crashed out in the TT plus they've lost Ion who was one of the best all-round helpers they could have wished for, fulfilling the same role as Luísle used to in the Caisse days. And this is the weakest Movistar team we've had in a long time, but never write off the Friars, they'll be able to regroup. They have at least potential firepower in the ranks.
At the end of the day, if he shouldn't move to a team that can provide less strength in depth than Sky, then what you're essentially saying is, he should stay at Sky and wait his turn, because their budget means they can throw money at people who could be second tier leaders and make them first tier helpers at the biggest races, repaying them with leadership at some smaller ones. Remember the days when Leopold König was top 10 of the Tour? If Landa feels he deserves more than going into his target race as a domestique for Geraint Thomas, then he'll have to take a hit in terms of the quality of assistance he gets. And if there's a team that can find a way to involve themselves in the GC without having the strength to do it, it's Unzué's lot, remember Pereiro, Arroyo, Efimkin et al.
At the end of the day, if he shouldn't move to a team that can provide less strength in depth than Sky, then what you're essentially saying is, he should stay at Sky and wait his turn, because their budget means they can throw money at people who could be second tier leaders and make them first tier helpers at the biggest races, repaying them with leadership at some smaller ones. Remember the days when Leopold König was top 10 of the Tour? If Landa feels he deserves more than going into his target race as a domestique for Geraint Thomas, then he'll have to take a hit in terms of the quality of assistance he gets. And if there's a team that can find a way to involve themselves in the GC without having the strength to do it, it's Unzué's lot, remember Pereiro, Arroyo, Efimkin et al.
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