Transfers "Rumours & Reality" and Young Guns

[Publicus]

neither is an Alberto's centric team or any other team with a star like Andy Schleck. If the leader fails, you gotta have a plan B.

This is getting silly now. Lance has never tolerated any team member having a goal of winning the TdF on his team. Alberto and Andy have. Neither have had a team solely dedicated to the victory at the TdF. So it's a ridiculous comparison.

Obviously you have a plan B, but the plan B doesn't come in saying they are there to win the Tour (which was the source of a lot of tension at this year's Tour when Lance made that very declaration). And again, Levi didn't qualify his aspiration. He said his goal is to win the TdF in 2010. Not win it IF Lance falters. If he said what you seem to be suggesting here, then there wouldn't be anything to this (not that there is much but enough to generate several responses).

Team Radioshack will have a singular goal and that is for Lance Armstrong to finish on the podium at the 2010 TdF (which I think will be a stretch, but that's another matter). All other aspirations are irrelevant to the extent they conflict with that goal.

Has nothing to do with hating Lance or disliking Levi (I actually like him). That's just a plain reading of history. It simply is what it is. That's not going to change for Levi or anyone else at this point.

 

[Publicus]

This is true of a Cav-centric Columbia and a Schleck-centric Saxo Bank. The best teams are built around their elite. If you want to win at the Tour you better have a great team around you. Just ask Cadel.

By the way Lance-centric teams have won The Vuelta and The Giro with people not named Armstrong.

When did Lance ride the Vuelta and Giro with the goal of winning the overall?

 

[Dirty South]

And again, Levi didn't qualify his aspiration. He said his goal is to win the TdF in 2010. Not win it IF Lance falters.

Also, Levi...

hang on

...my Radio Shack pager just went off....Looks like Lance is calling a team meeting to set Levi straight and correct his training plan for next year...it's these delusional team members that make things so difficult during the off-season.

 

[Dirty South]

When did Lance ride the Vuelta and Giro with the goal of winning the overall?

Ummm 1998 (VAS) and 2009 (GDI).

 

[Anonymous]

when did this become another lance thread?

 

[mambo#5]

El Pistolero already has a kid name Lance. :

wow, didn't know el pistolero admired Lance so much. I stand corrected.

 

[Publicus]

Ummm 1998 (VAS) and 2009 (GDI).

Don't know about the 1998 team, but I know for sure he wasn't going for the win at the 2009 Giro.

 

[Publicus]

wow, didn't know el pistolero admired Lance so much. I stand corrected.

Nah, just beat him like he was his father.

 

[Publicus]

when did this become another lance thread?

It really is about Levi, but I see your point.

 

[Clemson Cycling]

When people started criticizing the Radioshack signings.

Neither have had a team solely dedicated to the victory at the TdF.

Did you watch the tour this year? Andy has never had a team dedicated to getting him a victory at the Tour?

Team Radioshack will have a singular goal and that is for Lance Armstrong to finish on the podium at the 2010 TdF (which I think will be a stretch, but that's another matter). All other aspirations are irrelevant to the extent they conflict with that goal.

What did you think about his chances this year early on?

When did Lance ride the Vuelta and Giro with the goal of winning the overall?

That was my point. There is a good team there to race with during the other races. The guys Lance put together to win the Tour also won the Giro with Savoldelli and the Giro with Heras. Lance does not care any of the other races, so as long as you are working for the man at the Tour. Most of the guys he has signed have never had aspirations of doing well at the Tour (other then Levi), so saying they are throwing their aspirations out the window is not really correct. There are more races on the calender then the Tour de France that Radioshack plans on racing.

 

[Dirty South]

when did this become another lance thread?

Good question. I'm done.

 

[Publicus]

When people started criticizing the Radioshack signings.


Did you watch the tour this year? Andy has never had a team dedicated to getting him a victory at the Tour?


What did you think about his chances this year early on?


That was my point. There is a good team there to race with during the other races. The guys Lance put together to win the Tour also won the Giro with Savoldelli and the Giro with Heras. Lance does not care any of the other races, so as long as you are working for the man at the Tour. Most of the guys he has signed have never had aspirations of doing well at the Tour (other then Levi), so saying they are throwing their aspirations out the window is not really correct. There are more races on the calender then the Tour de France that Radioshack plans on racing.

I was referring to the team assembled by Lance to ride the Tour, not all of the people signed by USPS or Discovery. Lance has had a singular focus: the TdF. He still does.

And with that, I too will exit stage right.

Sorry, I didn't see that question embedded in the document. I thought his chances were good that he might end up on the podium if things broke the right way. I never thought he had a chance to actually win (barring AC not showing up or being injured during the race).

 

[Bala Verde]

when did this become another lance thread?

I don't know, but I wish they took it to some other thread. We have many old ones that would serve the purpose.

Please keep it on topic: "transfers news & rumours".

 

[Anonymous]

I don't know, but I wish they took it to some other thread. We have many old ones that would serve the purpose.

Please keep it on topic: "transfers news & rumours".

I did it, sorry.

 

[hillytn]

Because a Lance-centric team is no place for your personal aspirations. That's not a knock on Lance. That's just reality.

unfortunately, that's probably pretty spot on. well, regardless, best of luck to LL. here's to hoping for less drama come next year.

 

[cyclingfan7]

i think they will get invites to these races.

 

[joe_papp]

Mike Friedman

Any news on where Mike Friedman might be going for 2010? Does Garmin have a legit interest in keeping him? If not, will his agent Backstedt negotiate a deal for him on the Continent with a Belgian kermesse team, for example, or will he come back to USA?

 

[rhubroma]

Lance has been way too successful for the losers of the world. He is the anti-Christ to those jealous souls with nothing to show for or of themselves. Basic truth is those that can't beotch!!!

This is the same thing we always hear from his fanboys, that we are just jealous and hate a winner. The jealous bit I'd say pertains more to you, among his fanboys. They, yes, would love notheing more than to be like their hero.

As for the hating winners bit, that just goes to demonstrate how brainless you fanboys are, as if one would follow sport who didn't like a winner. How inane.

And it's never had anything to do with Lance the rider, but his bullying, mafioso boss protecting of the omertà, cynicism toward the cancer community and so many other character flaws which make him simply an a$$hole.

And anyone who writes "beotch" must be one too...

 

[racerralph]

It's become the new flavor to hate on Lance. Many can't formulate their own constructive fact based opinions or arguments. So, it's just easier to go with the new majority.

Again, those that can't! Beotch!!!!

If it's "the new flavor of the month', it's only because LA tried to heap it on all of us. There is no need to construct "fact based opinions or arguments" as you'd like to put it. All that's needed is to replay the 2009 Tour de France, to witness the utterly classless behavior LA exhibited, in his shameless, and ultimately failed attempt to wrest control of the Astana teams leadership from Alberto Contador.
LA should take a lesson from David Wiens, who came in second to LA in the Leadville 100. In his defeat, Wiens exhibited humor and respect for his conquerer. It broke a streak of victories I'm sure he was proud of, but he showed nothing but class in the post race interviews. Lance should have been above the fray at the TdF. Instead, he was scurrying about, throughout the 3 weeks. Trying to scuttle AC's concentration, reputation, intelligence and anything else he could destroy. It was a sad sight to watch. If you missed it, you might want to take your blindfold off. Because,with all due respect, no matter how much you sound off at people who are no longer fond of LA, the blindfold makes YOU look silly, and your perspective sounds even worse.

 

[issoisso]

Haussler has renewed his contract with Cervélo for 3 more seasons.

Saxo Bank has renewed with André Steensen

 

[peloton]

If it's "the new flavor of the month', it's only because LA tried to heap it on all of us. There is no need to construct "fact based opinions or arguments" as you'd like to put it. All that's needed is to replay the 2009 Tour de France, to witness the utterly classless behavior LA exhibited, in his shameless, and ultimately failed attempt to wrest control of the Astana teams leadership from Alberto Contador.
LA should take a lesson from David Wiens, who came in second to LA in the Leadville 100. In his defeat, Wiens exhibited humor and respect for his conquerer. It broke a streak of victories I'm sure he was proud of, but he showed nothing but class in the post race interviews. Lance should have been above the fray at the TdF. Instead, he was scurrying about, throughout the 3 weeks. Trying to scuttle AC's concentration, reputation, intelligence and anything else he could destroy. It was a sad sight to watch. If you missed it, you might want to take your blindfold off. Because,with all due respect, no matter how much you sound off at people who are no longer fond of LA, the blindfold makes YOU look silly, and your perspective sounds even worse.

+1
well said

 

[kease7]

Agreed with the above but THIS IS TRANSFER Thread and not to chat about LA

 

[kease7]

Besides Heinich Haussler, Ignatas Konovalovas Brett Lancaster and Martin Reimer has also extended his contract with Cervelo. The German champions on the road, in any case until late 2011 when the Swiss formation.

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Steve Chainel, Yukiya Arashiro, Yohann Gène Damien Gaudin and have extended their contract with Bouygues Telecom. Previously did Franck Bouyer, Pier Fedrigo and Sebastien Turgot same.

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Kevin van Impe, in any case even two years at Quick Step. The Belgian, who is convalescing from a serious knee injury, extended his contract despite offers from Milram, Cofidis and Caisse d'Epargne. These are in addition to Van Impe Carlos Barredo, Tom Boonen, Dario Catado, Sylvain Chavanel, Allan Davis, Kevin de Weert, Dries Devenyns, Stijn Devolder, Addy Engels, Mauro Facci, Kurt Hovelynck, Kevin Hulsmans, Andrei Kunitski, Thomas Vedel Kvist, Davide Malacarne, Jérôme Pineau, Francesco Reda, Branislau Samoilau, Kevin Seeldrayers, Matteo Tosatto, Jurgen Van de Walle, Marco Velo, Wouter Weylandt and Maarten Wynants. The team is still negotiating with Dominique Cornu while Sebastien Rosseler (Radio Shack), Hubert Schwab (?) And Steven de Jongh (stops) leaving.

 

[craig1985]

Or rather Steven de Jongh is retiring.

/Pendent

 

[racerralph]

Agreed with the above but THIS IS TRANSFER Thread and not to chat about LA

You're absolutely right! It just seemed like the thread was being hijacked by fanboys, so I responded. I will turn that off, from my end, and limit input to transfer related info.
A similar thing has happened to a thread I originated. I guess it's easy to get sidetracked sometimes. But, Thanks for the reminder.