Tyler Hamilton confessions/accusations

[Granville57]

can someone record the show and put it on some streaming site?

CBS streams are pretty easy to find. If not it will be on usenet and bittorrent the next day.

How do we get 60 Minutes streaming for downunder guys?

CBS has one of the more generous video feeds for their programs. I don't know if this is restricted by region of not but if you can see the video from this link then you should have no problem watching the entire show shortly after it airs.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366632n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

CBS has one of the more generous video feeds for their programs. I don't know if this is restricted by region of not but if you can see the video from this link then you should have no problem watching the entire show shortly after it airs.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366632n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

Nice, thanks for posting that.

 

[ProfTournesol]

JayVee:

look it up Argyle Assassin:

What's missing from your definition is that projection is an sub-conscious process, it's not something that the person is consciously aware of, that's what makes it different from lying for instance - that's conscious. Projection is a sub-conscious way of reducing the anxiety that comes with 'knowing', it becomes attributed to someone else.

 

[spalco]

Wow. That's all I can say, until I finish reading this thread. I did not expect that.

 

[dbrower]

How about a courtroom?

Nope, not even there; witnesses kept apart so as not to hear each other's testimony.

-dB

 

[Granville57]

Nope, not even there; witnesses kept apart so as not to hear each other's testimony.

I'm being taken way too literally here on this one.

Edit:
All I'm really saying is that at some point, I would love to see two or more of the "accusers" on camera at the same time. That will have more of an impact on a general public than just some random individual that most of them have never heard of before anyway.

 

[MD FACG FACP]

Translation:

"I haven't yet seen any evidence that will convict Lance either."

Thanks mate, reading you loud and clear.

Dude, no one has seen any evidence for god's sake. It's a GJ investigation, It is not up for public consumption. That includes Tyler's testimony what he said to 60 minutes is obviously not everything he said to the GJ.

Some people I tell ya what.

 

[blackcat]

It is about HARD time.

Dave.

that is viagra hard.

Lance loves his bromance. Perhaps he can get an endorsement or bring out a memorial Livestrong 'n Hard, products.

 

[blackcat]

At least Lim is being honest.

If JV had guts this would be the time to stand up, tell his truth, publicly question the UCI about the Tour de Suisse positive, position himself to be the next president of the UCI and really push for fundamental reform at the top of the sport. If he had guts.

Epi, your premise is flawed. Starting point JV is a good guy, who holds some commitment to the truth.

 

[blackcat]

I'm still not sure what this means for Lance. Like most people I have my suspicions but the court requires a greater level of proof than what is being offered by the witnesses. While the amount of hearsay evidence keeps building, at the end of the day a million times nothing still equals nothing. Another proven liar makes allegations about him. So what? Unfortunately Tyler can't prove what was in Lance's fridge or what Lance was injecting... if he was injecting anything at all. Unless someone has some proper physical evidence somewhere the reality is Lance can just keep denying it.

not hearsay u muppet. Direct witness evidence.

 

[blackcat]

LOL. Cancellara 10th. Talking about charged riders.

Thanks Tyler. It was long overdue.

Did anything happened between Haven and Lance?? I read somebody mentioned something.

Haven slept with Prance Gunderson after she had split with Ty I believe.

 

[blackcat]

You are right Barnyard, hearsay is not the right term.
The meaning I was trying to convey is that they are allegations rather than physical evidence. The fact that these allegations have often come from proven liars unfortunately diminishes the impact of the allegations.

Prance is a proven liar. Go back to 1999 when he told Walsh he had not TUE. Then, miraculously, divined by god, a TUE for the saddle sore cortico cream eventuates. Master of muppetry u r.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Can't say I'm shocked by this, I mean, anyone with open eyes could see this coming for some time. I just hope it helps Tyler.

As to JV, I wouldn't put an onus on him to do anything regarding blowing lids off of various cases and investigations, but if he ever wanted to tell the truth about what he himself witnessed and experienced in his career, now would be the time to do so.

 

[Chef_Vodnik]

In about five minutes, using "HTML For Dummies".

I especially like the quotes from magazines supportive of steroid use (Steroid Rx)...

I quickly checked the domain owners, there's not much to be found, so it appears to be rather new, that site... Heh.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Prance is a proven liar. Go back to 1999 when he told Walsh he had not TUE. Then, miraculously, divined by god, a TUE for the saddle sore cortico cream eventuates. Master of muppetry u r.

This is one thing that bothers me. Armstrong always says he never tested positive, but he did in 1999, didn't he? Even if there was no action against him, there was still a positive test.

Also, someone said dozens of pages ago that Ullrich never tested positive. Of course he did, in 2002 for amphetamines.

Susan

 

[thehog]

""But greed and a hunger for publicity..." - Nice quote from the Fab - is he talking about Armstrong or Hamilton?

 

[stephens]

I figure no matter one's opinion, we can find the following tweet from Lance to be hilarious:

posted about 10pm EDT: "Congratulations to @eki_ekimov on his 3rd Olympic Gold Medal!!"

 

[thehog]

I figure no matter one's opinion, we can find the following tweet from Lance to be hilarious:

posted about 10pm EDT: "Congratulations to @eki_ekimov on his 3rd Olympic Gold Medal!!"

I think the first tweet was after 3 beers, the second with the facts4lance website was after 8 beers and the Eki comment after several tequila slammers.

 

[Finbouy]

I'd always had a soft spot for Tyler. depression and all that turmoil.
But surely now, this late in the day, it's old news gone bad with the motivation of a book publishing contract..
Good timing though.
Giro on,
TOC on,
TdF soon.
Ideal publicity.

 

[danjo007]

leaked documents pertaining to the armstrong case...

 

[thehog]

I'd always had a soft spot for Tyler. depression and all that turmoil.
But surely now, this late in the day, it's old news gone bad with the motivation of a book publishing contract..
Good timing though.
Giro on,
TOC on,
TdF soon.
Ideal publicity.

Is there ever a good time to confess?

 

[ChrisE]

The really big news here is that Tyler corroborates Floyd's story that the UCI covered up the 2001 positive. After all, there wasn't any doubt about the doping part.

So all those 500+ negatives are meaningless, because the positives were hidden by the corrupt UCI, and in particular Verdruggen. Strange that the UCI threatened a lawsuit against Floyd, they must have had some knowledge of Tylers coming clean. Are they going to threaten to sue Tyler as well?

By the way, I hope this gives Tyler a maximum of peace in his life. I just can't help thinking he is really a nice guy. Maybe its that preppy look.

I never quite understand the "peace" it gives people to air their stuff in public. I've never been in that situation so I give a wide berth to that due to my ignorance of what somebody goes thru to lead them to publicly confess.

Yeah, the UCI getting creamed is what I am waiting for but unless somebody rolls over in that organization how does that happen?

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

Is there ever a good time to confess?

When ToC is on, duh

 

[thehog]

When ToC is on, duh

I believe Tyler not Floyd.

 

[Martin318is]

I never quite understand the "peace" it gives people to air their stuff in public. I've never been in that situation so I give a wide berth to that due to my ignorance of what somebody goes thru to lead them to publicly confess.

Yeah, the UCI getting creamed is what I am waiting for but unless somebody rolls over in that organization how does that happen?

Think of it like a bandaid. If you are a reasonably famous person (at least well known in your field) if you tell a few people it will go public anyway and you will still get the calls for interviews and yadda yadda. So do it once on 60mins and theoretically you don't have to talk about it again if you don't really want to....

...except it doesn't work like that really.

The people I find more strange are those that go public and then continue to milk it with interview after interview. (I am thinking of the Sarah Ferguson type here.) I guess THAT is the type that are in it for money