Tyler's Book

[thehog]

In June of 2000, Hamilton writes, he and Armstrong and another teammate, Kevin Livingstone, flew from France to Spain to have their blood drawn by team doctor Luis Garcia del Moral and his assistant, Pepe Marti.


Hamilton also writes that after he left the USPS team to join another squad, his team director, Bjarne Riis, introduced him to Madrid doctor Eufemiano Fuentes, who Hamilton says oversaw his blood doping for several years.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...acuses-doping-article-1.1148508#ixzz255qE85za

 

[woodburn]

Confirming involvement in Puerto affair.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/tyler-hamilton-book-secret-race-details-relationship-lance-armstrong-acuses-doping-article-1.1148508#ixzz255qP4Bdx

Hamilton also writes that after he left the USPS team to join another squad, his team director, Bjarne Riis, introduced him to Madrid doctor Eufemiano Fuentes, who Hamilton says oversaw his blood doping for several years. Hamilton testified in 2011 before a federal grand jury investigating Armstrong's teams, and later gave an interview to "60 Minutes" in which he confessed to doping and corroborated accusations that another Armstrong teammate, Floyd Landis, had leveled against Armstrong.

 

[Kennf1]

Interesting stuff. Never knew Hamilton worked with Fuentes. Also, this may be the first time Livingston's name has been "officially" outed.
I'd still like to hear why in hell Hamilton used a homologous transfusion instead of autologous. Maybe Fuentes was just that crappy a doctor.

 

[Epicycle]

Interesting stuff. Never knew Hamilton worked with Fuentes. Also, this may be the first time Livingston's name has been "officially" outed.
I'd still like to hear why in hell Hamilton used a homologous transfusion instead of autologous. Maybe Fuentes was just that crappy a doctor.

Manzano got really sick after a transfusion, he was riding on a train by himself and thought he would die. He suspected that he had gotten the blood of another rider by accident. Fuentes did some really sketchy stuff, including asking family members/significant others with (presumably) matching blood types to donate blood when he didn't have enough of the rider's blood.

Hamilton was a known Fuentes client because his Boulder address was on Fuentes paperwork, that's how they matched it to his code (I think he was just #18, no nickname). At one point a doping schedule was made public that matched Tyler's racing schedule. A fax was also uncovered that was sent to his wife at a hotel they were staying at. There was speculation that his now ex-wife was involved in the logistics of his doping program, I wonder if he addresses that in the book.

 

[knewcleardaze]

Uh oh. Isn't Livingston's Pedal Hard Training Center in Armstrong's bike shop basement?
What's Ben Bailey say, "Out you go"?

 

[Kennf1]

Uh oh. Isn't Livingston's Pedal Hard Training Center in Armstrong's bike shop basement?

Yep. But he can no longer get free coffee upstairs in the cafe.

 

[Race Radio]

Just received my copy Unfortunately I am 6,000 miles away. Will be an interesting weekend of reading

 

[JPM London]

Interesting stuff. Never knew Hamilton worked with Fuentes. Also, this may be the first time Livingston's name has been "officially" outed.
I'd still like to hear why in hell Hamilton used a homologous transfusion instead of autologous. Maybe Fuentes was just that crappy a doctor.

Nope - his name appeared in the Ferrari files...

 

[Cimber]

Former Riis rider Sandstød about Hamilton: "Scorned liar"

http://translate.google.com/transla...n.dk/cykling/hamilton-er-en-forsmaaet-loegner

 

[JPM London]

Former Riis rider Sandstød about Hamilton: "Scorned liar"

http://translate.google.com/transla...n.dk/cykling/hamilton-er-en-forsmaaet-loegner

Wasn't Sandstoed the guy who - when asked if he doped - answered "I have not had any problems in that direction" while giving that all too recognisable uneasy smile you tend to do when you're full of it?

 

[Ingenerius]

Just received my copy Unfortunately I am 6,000 miles away. Will be an interesting weekend of reading

F u RR How? Us mortals has to wait another week.

 

[Mr.38%]

Alex Heard ‏@alexheard
The Tyler Hamilton/Dan Coyle book is historic, powerful stuff. It's going to shake the foundations of bike racing.

Alex Heard ‏@alexheard
Reading the Tyler Hamilton book. Lance Armstrong may need some kind of housing with a moat.

 

[Cimber]

Wasn't Sandstoed the guy who - when asked if he doped - answered "I have not had any problems in that direction" while giving that all too recognisable uneasy smile you tend to do when you're full of it?

Wasnt that Riis himself?

 

[FitSsikS]

Tyler Hamilton Book: Lance Armstrong Shared PED Before Tour De France - Huffington Post

AUSTIN, Texas -- Tyler Hamilton says Lance Armstrong gave him an illegal blood booster before the 1999 Tour de France and that the teammates took blood transfusions together during the cycling race the following year.

Hamilton makes the allegations in his book, "The Secret Race. Inside the Hidden World of the Tour de France, Doping, Cover-ups and Winning at All Costs," set to be published Sept. 5. The Associated Press purchased a copy Thursday.

 

[roadfreak44]

Dont forget Weisel ordering a doping program for USPS. Riding with a sociopath. There will lots of good stuff and i dubt much of it is pre cycling.

I especially Like the bit where Tyler says that a motorcylist followed them with epo in a coffee container so they could have some AFTER they finished the stage...Really? after a stage? Guess thta would boost your performance while in bed? Probably drank it with a cappucino...Apparently folks here will believe ANYTHING that incredibly honest and believable fellow offers while overlooking the simple fact that his "confession" just coincidentally occurred on the eve of his book deal. Totally believable if you ask me.
Poor Floyd though...Lemonds attorneys helped him file a case in federal court where he would get a percentage of the fines levied against Armstrong (about 30%) now there arent going to be any. Gosh and he worked so hard for that money! Does anybody have his email? I do ghost writing and could pen a book for him as well. I wouldnt mind making a few bucks off this myself...We could call it,"This Time I'm really Telling the Truth"
What I would enjoy is Landis, Hamilton , Andreu and Armstrong sitting in chairs hooked up to lie detectors. An impartial panel asking them hard questions and me getting a thousand bucks everytime the detector goes haywire...I'd be a millionaire by days end...now THAT would be worth writing a book about. As for reading Tylers book Im sure it will be every bit as enlightening and accurate as honest Floyds was. They are both Sooo beleivable.

 

[HL2037]

I especially Like the bit where Tyler says that a motorcylist followed them with epo in a coffee container so they could have some AFTER they finished the stage...Really? after a stage? Guess thta would boost your performance while in bed? Probably drank it with a cappucino...Apparently folks here will believe ANYTHING that incredibly honest and believable fellow offers while overlooking the simple fact that his "confession" just coincidentally occurred on the eve of his book deal. Totally believable if you ask me.

The way epo works is it makes the body produce more red blood cells. I am by no means an expert on physiology, but it seem logic to me that the sooner this production starts the more cells can be produced before the next stage.

 

[Anonymous]

I especially Like the bit where Tyler says that a motorcylist followed them with epo in a coffee container so they could have some AFTER they finished the stage...Really? after a stage? Guess thta would boost your performance while in bed? Probably drank it with a cappucino...Apparently folks here will believe ANYTHING that incredibly honest and believable fellow offers while overlooking the simple fact that his "confession" just coincidentally occurred on the eve of his book deal. Totally believable if you ask me.
Poor Floyd though...Lemonds attorneys helped him file a case in federal court where he would get a percentage of the fines levied against Armstrong (about 30%) now there arent going to be any. Gosh and he worked so hard for that money! Does anybody have his email? I do ghost writing and could pen a book for him as well. I wouldnt mind making a few bucks off this myself...We could call it,"This Time I'm really Telling the Truth"
What I would enjoy is Landis, Hamilton , Andreu and Armstrong sitting in chairs hooked up to lie detectors. An impartial panel asking them hard questions and me getting a thousand bucks everytime the detector goes haywire...I'd be a millionaire by days end...now THAT would be worth writing a book about. As for reading Tylers book Im sure it will be every bit as enlightening and accurate as honest Floyds was. They are both Sooo beleivable.

Me too.

Funny, Lance had the opportunity to not only tell his side, but challenge his accusers under oath.

He had a golden opportunity to do what he said he'd do, tear Tyler apart on the stand.... make him look like an idiot.

Lance quit. Lance the quitter.

Lance isn't even a paper tiger...

Literally laughing out loud.

 

[HL2037]

Me too.

Funny, Lance had the opportunity to not only tell his side, but challenge his accusers under oath.

He had a golden opportunity to do what he said he'd do, tear Tyler apart on the stand.... make him look like an idiot.

Lance quit. Lance the quitter.

Lance isn't even a paper tiger...

Literally laughing out loud.

Yeah, when Armstrong had the chance he didn't have the courage to face the witnesses after all.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Me too.

Funny, Lance had the opportunity to not only tell his side, but challenge his accusers under oath.

He had a golden opportunity to do what he said he'd do, tear Tyler apart on the stand.... make him look like an idiot.

Lance quit. Lance the quitter.

Lance isn't even a paper tiger...

Literally laughing out loud.

It is very sad that Lance did not put up the fight. It would have provided many hours of pure fun for this place. I am ****ed at him for being a quitter because of all the entertainment value we could have had.

 

[thehog]

Lance quit. Lance the quitter.

Lance isn't even a paper tiger...

Literally laughing out loud.

That needs to be a thread of its own!

Lance the quitter!

 

[JPM London]

Wasnt that Riis himself?

No - he just used the eternal winner "I've never tested positive".

On second thoughts I think it wasn't Sandstoed, but another Danish rider of the late nineties - don't remember who though...

 

[thehog]

@NYDNSportsITeam: Hamilton book: "Then Bjarne gave me the phone number of a man who would define my life for the next few years: Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes."

 

[roadfreak44]

That needs to be a thread of its own!

Lance the quitter!

Quitter? Au contraire. One thing aobut Armstrong is he always takes the most likely outcome to success. In this case that means not allowing whatever evidence is available to come to light but rather to stall for the issue to be addressed in a different less biased court wherein his teams eyes the outcome might be more favorable. What I find puzzling is that everyone acts as if this is the final outcome. Armstrongs team is very experienced and if theres one thing we can be sure of it is that we can be sure the fight isnt over just yet. A possible scenario is that the UCI steps in questions th eban on prcedural gorunds of one sort or another then it goes to CAS And they offer that USADA overstepped its mandate. Im not rooting for that just offering that as a possible outcome as it is...Then Armstrong has a legal footing to sue USADA and Hamilton and Landis for defamation. He wouldnt go after Landis who is penniless but Tyler was undoubtedly given a nice fat advance which he would then have to turn around and burn up on legal defense. Youmight get to see Lance Versus tyler and his dog "(was it binky?) This is a temporary judgement offered by USADA and its not over til the UCI and CAS weighs in which I am sure their attorneys are working overtime trying to figure which end of the body to stick out the hole first...

 

[thehog]

Quitter? Au contraire. One thing aobut Armstrong is he always takes the most likely outcome to success. In this case that means not allowing whatever evidence is available to come to light but rather to stall for the issue to be addressed in a different less biased court wherein his teams eyes the outcome might be more favorable. What I find puzzling is that everyone acts as if this is the final outcome. Armstrongs team is very experienced and if theres one thing we can be sure of it is that we can be sure the fight isnt over just yet. A possible scenario is that the UCI steps in questions th eban on prcedural gorunds of one sort or another then it goes to CAS And they offer that USADA overstepped its mandate. Im not rooting for that just offering that as a possible outcome as it is...Then Armstrong has a legal footing to sue USADA and Hamilton and Landis for defamation. He wouldnt go after Landis who is penniless but Tyler was undoubtedly given a nice fat advance which he would then have to turn around and burn up on legal defense. Youmight get to see Lance Versus tyler and his dog "(was it binky?) This is a temporary judgement offered by USADA and its not over til the UCI and CAS weighs in which I am sure their attorneys are working overtime trying to figure which end of the body to stick out the hole first...

No he's a quitter. Pure and simple. Quitter.

He's also not man enough to admit to what he did.

Some inspiration that guy! Quitter, liar and a cheat. Simple.

 

[roadfreak44]

Quitter? Au contraire. One thing aobut Armstrong is he always takes the most likely outcome to success. In this case that means not allowing whatever evidence is available to come to light but rather to stall for the issue to be addressed in a different less biased court wherein his teams eyes the outcome might be more favorable. What I find puzzling is that everyone acts as if this is the final outcome. Armstrongs team is very experienced and if theres one thing we can be sure of it is that we can be sure the fight isnt over just yet. A possible scenario is that the UCI steps in questions th eban on prcedural gorunds of one sort or another then it goes to CAS And they offer that USADA overstepped its mandate. Im not rooting for that just offering that as a possible outcome as it is...Then Armstrong has a legal footing to sue USADA and Hamilton and Landis for defamation. He wouldnt go after Landis who is penniless but Tyler was undoubtedly given a nice fat advance which he would then have to turn around and burn up on legal defense. Youmight get to see Lance Versus tyler and his dog "(was it binky?) This is a temporary judgement offered by USADA and its not over til the UCI and CAS weighs in which I am sure their attorneys are working overtime trying to figure which end of the body to stick out the hole first...

what this has to do with tylers book escapes me at the moment;-)