UCI helped Froome with illegal(?) TUE at Romandie

[the sceptic]

When will you ever add anything to the conversation? Even if you add something that people do not agree with it would be something. You just repeat the same thing again and again.

btw What is my agenda?

Your agenda is to avoid the issue of skys obvious doping. You are doing this by nitpicking a factual error rather than creating a real argument. Also known as vortexing.

 

[TailWindHome]

PRESS RELEASE: UCI response to media allegations concerning Christopher Froome’s recent TUE




15.06.2014


Christopher Froome’s TUE for oral use of glucocorticosteroids was granted on April 29, 2014 based on duly documented medical history and in compliance with the applicable UCI Regulations and the relevant WADA guidelines. The TUE was granted for a limited period, following the usual procedure.

The process was fully transparent as it is UCI’s policy to systematically record all TUEs on ADAMS. WADA was therefore informed throughout the process.

The UCI wishes to emphasise that under the applicable rules – which are consistent with the WADA Code and the WADA TUE Standard and Guidelines – any rider with the same symptoms as Christopher Froome would have received a similar TUE.

The UCI would like to express its profound disappointment with the speculations that have been made suggesting its President could have any influence on the granting of TUEs. The UCI President and the UCI Administration have absolutely no involvement with decisions on TUEs. Insinuating that Brian Cookson’s son’s employment with Team Sky could have something to do with the decision to grant the TUE is an unfounded allegation which will be dealt with seriously.

 

[The Hitch]

Whats an urgent TUE? was his life in danger?

That is a good point.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

PRESS RELEASE: UCI response to media allegations concerning Christopher Froome’s recent TUE




15.06.2014


Christopher Froome’s TUE for oral use of glucocorticosteroids was granted on April 29, 2014 based on duly documented medical history and in compliance with the applicable UCI Regulations and the relevant WADA guidelines. The TUE was granted for a limited period, following the usual procedure.

The process was fully transparent as it is UCI’s policy to systematically record all TUEs on ADAMS. WADA was therefore informed throughout the process.

The UCI wishes to emphasise that under the applicable rules – which are consistent with the WADA Code and the WADA TUE Standard and Guidelines – any rider with the same symptoms as Christopher Froome would have received a similar TUE.

The UCI would like to express its profound disappointment with the speculations that have been made suggesting its President could have any influence on the granting of TUEs. The UCI President and the UCI Administration have absolutely no involvement with decisions on TUEs. Insinuating that Brian Cookson’s son’s employment with Team Sky could have something to do with the decision to grant the TUE is an unfounded allegation which will be dealt with seriously.

I think you need a link to give that any credibility.

 

[Will Carter]

Froome affected mentally by the recent controversies today?

Was he all bandaged up again today from his fall (havent seen the TV footage)? Do we know how much damage that did?

 

[The Hitch]

Sounds reasonable enough to me.

Normally a doctor prescribing prednisone is going to advise rest rather than an Alpine stage race.

Doesn't look good for team clean.

 

[thehog]

PRESS RELEASE: UCI response to media allegations concerning Christopher Froome’s recent TUE

15.06.2014


Christopher Froome’s TUE for oral use of glucocorticosteroids was granted on April 29, 2014 based on duly documented medical history and in compliance with the applicable UCI Regulations and the relevant WADA guidelines. The TUE was granted for a limited period, following the usual procedure.

The process was fully transparent as it is UCI’s policy to systematically record all TUEs on ADAMS. WADA was therefore informed throughout the process.

The UCI wishes to emphasise that under the applicable rules – which are consistent with the WADA Code and the WADA TUE Standard and Guidelines – any rider with the same symptoms as Christopher Froome would have received a similar TUE.

The UCI would like to express its profound disappointment with the speculations that have been made suggesting its President could have any influence on the granting of TUEs. The UCI President and the UCI Administration have absolutely no involvement with decisions on TUEs. Insinuating that Brian Cookson’s son’s employment with Team Sky could have something to do with the decision to grant the TUE is an unfounded allegation which will be dealt with seriously.

Let's hope they deal with it seriously!

Now what about cameras on bikes?

 

[thehog]

Your agenda is to avoid the issue of skys obvious doping. You are doing this by nitpicking a factual error rather than creating a real argument. Also known as vortexing.

Wasn't even a factual error. I was drawing parallel comparisons between the two events.

Alas I think it went over Pedro's head and he just went into Skybot mode.

Sad because he might be able to contribute something. Or not.

 

[Benotti69]

I think you need a link to give that any credibility.

You need to be stupid to give it an cred.

 

[Will Carter]

I think you need a link to give that any credibility.

Top article on http://www.uci.ch

 

[TailWindHome]

I think you need a link to give that any credibility.

http://intranet.uci.ch/Modules/ENew...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

 

[MartinGT]

So he was given a TUE yet according to his lady, no TUE is needed

Maybe given the fact he was going to lose today, he may have been just easing off? No point cooking it?

Just a thought.

Whatever today, Kimmage wants answers about this TUE from Cookson

 

[Will Carter]

So he was given a TUE yet according to his lady, no TUE is needed

Maybe given the fact he was going to lose today, he may have been just easing off? No point cooking it?

Just a thought.

Whatever today, Kimmage wants answers about this TUE from Cookson

The TUE isnt needed for the inhaler. This is prescribed medicine 2 months ago.

 

[Fzotrlool]

Was he all bandaged up again today from his fall (havent seen the TV footage)? Do we know how much damage that did?

Being physically harmed is one thing, but being mentally damaged can be even more fatal. Just look at Andy.

We can only guess whether he is affected by doping rumors or not.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Your agenda is to avoid the issue of skys obvious doping. You are doing this by nitpicking a factual error rather than creating a real argument. Also known as vortexing.

I have already indicated I think that Froome is doping?

Right, so if I argue that the 'facts' might be wrong or misleading in the way they are presented (as they have been before) then that is vortexing. But just making them up is fine?

 

[TailWindHome]

Whatever today, Kimmage wants answers about this TUE from Cookson

Has he thought of any questions yet?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Top article on http://www.uci.ch

http://intranet.uci.ch/Modules/ENew...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYzMDQ&LangId=1

Cheers (10chars)

 

[Will Carter]

Has he thought of any questions yet?

The problem is Kimmage thinks he can smell a conspiracy / cover up in an empty room ...

 

[red_flanders]

The article states the TUE was for Prednisolone, not anything else so it couldn't be used as a cover. And if he was glowing surely it would be safer to pull him from the race?

I didn't say or suggest it was a cover, I said it could have been left in his system. I don't think drugs like this are taken in isolation so I suggest it's part of a doping regimen and the only thing left in the system.

Good point on not pulling him. It would have been another reasonable option. However, if you have the TUE, it's not "safer" to pull him, he was already safe. But it's still a good question. I would suggest it applies to the notion that he was suffering an "acute" respiratory issue as well. Why not pull him?

I am saying that leaving a rider in a race who has such "acute asthma" is not a reasonable explanation, particularly when that rider proceeds to destroy everyone.

I don't believe them at all. I don't know what the truth is, and am offering a potential alternate explanation. But the idea that he had such an acute issue that he needed 40mg of prednisone and then went out and destroyed everyone is not one I'll believe. Just more cycling lies.

 

[TailWindHome]

Yes, this. How it was twisted is beyond me. Agendas fully in play apparently.

The problem with comparing this to Armstrong's TUE is that the facts (as we currently know them) are so fundamentally different.

 

[the sceptic]

The problem is Kimmage thinks he can smell a conspiracy / cover up in an empty room ...

Maybe take a look at Zorzolis history to begin with. The UCI is still the same old UCI. Nothing has changed.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

The cycling news article says

Le Journal du Dimanche also reports that WADA has since received Froome’s dossier and is investigating the incident.

In the UCI statement it says

The process was fully transparent as it is UCI’s policy to systematically record all TUEs on ADAMS. WADA was therefore informed throughout the process.

So did WADA know or not?

 

[Benotti69]

The problem is Kimmage thinks he can smell a conspiracy / cover up in an empty room ...

oooh, why would he? It is not like the UCI has done this before........

Sky, ASO and UCI are close and too friendly by half, add into the mix the presidents son working for Sky and ya know what, it stinks!

 

[Granville57]

The problem with comparing this to Armstrong's TUE is that the facts (as we currently know them) are so fundamentally different.

And yet the obfuscation remains the same.

 

[red_flanders]

The problem with comparing this to Armstrong's TUE is that the facts (as we currently know them) are so fundamentally different.

He wasn't comparing the details, he wondered if it would become the "moment", as in the "moment" when the veneer started to fall.

Come on guys, let's stick to the real issue and stop torturing the comparison here.