UCI helped Froome with illegal(?) TUE at Romandie

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Granville57 said:
Seems like an odd bit to add to such a dry and formal statement:

And WTF does that even mean, exactly? :confused:

It's the non-threat threat. We act like we're going to sue you, don't even bother to use the actual word "lawsuit" so that we can take the posture that we're fighting the unjust press, but later no one can prove we said we were going to sue.
 
The stink of desperation in here reminds me of seeing socially-inept singletons trying to cop off at an indie night in the final minutes before lights up. Any one will do, just as any rumour here is enough to get the trolls salivating.
 

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the sceptic said:
Maybe take a look at Zorzolis history to begin with. The UCI is still the same old UCI. Nothing has changed.

Oh I agree there. I stand by my comment on Kimmage though.
 
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argyllflyer said:
The stink of desperation in here reminds me of seeing socially-inept singletons trying to cop off at an indie night in the final minutes before lights up. Any one will do, just as any rumour here is enough to get the trolls salivating.
I think the problem is that all things considered this does have a bit of deja-vu.
 
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red_flanders said:
It's the non-threat threat. We act like we're going to sue you, don't even bother to use the actual word "lawsuit" so that we can take the posture that we're fighting the unjust press, but later no one can prove we said we were going to sue.

Wonder who leaked it.. I assume the french newspaper didnt just stumble across this stuff?
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
Short memory much?

So let's get the timeline sorted...

26th April, flies back from Tennerife for L-B-L, found to have "suddenly" developed a terrible cold/flu, and is pulled.

29th April, get an "urgent" TUE for Prednisone for asthma/bronchial inflammation,

29th April, starts Tour of Romandie, and rips the legs off all, including ITT World Champion, in the ITT.

Sorry, I see NOTHING "urgent" about the whole thing - it is not like Team Sky had no forewarning of his condition.

If they were happy to pull him for a World Tour one-day race, where they were beyond the cut-off time to substitute him, then shove him in another WT race, (where they could have placed a reserve rider in for him), this time a six-day race in the cold & wet of western Switzerland in early May.

Looks damned stupid of SKY management to me, given that he was already the designated "protected leader" for their TdF, and Romandie is not exactly the most important race for TdF preparation.
Now he looks like the "Froome we all know and love" (thank you Hoggy), four weeks out from the TdF.....

That is probably the best take one can put on the whole thing - I personally think that it was to mask the "Tennerife glow" with enough corticosteroids that the other special stuff got masked with the outrageous high for Prednisone
 
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GreasyMonkey said:
So let's get the timeline sorted...

26th April, flies back from Tennerife for L-B-L, found to have "suddenly" developed a terrible cold/flu, and is pulled.

29th April, get an "urgent" TUE for Prednisone for asthma/bronchial inflammation,

29th April, starts Tour of Romandie, and rips the legs off all, including ITT World Champion, in the ITT.

Sorry, I see NOTHING "urgent" about the whole thing - it is not like Team Sky had no forewarning of his condition.

If they were happy to pull him for a World Tour one-day race, where they were beyond the cut-off time to substitute him, then shove him in another WT race, (where they could have placed a reserve rider in for him), this time a six-day race in the cold & wet of western Switzerland in early May.

Looks damned stupid of SKY management to me, given that he was already the designated "protected leader" for their TdF, and Romandie is not exactly the most important race for TdF preparation.
Now he looks like the "Froome we all know and love" (thank you Hoggy), four weeks out from the TdF.....

That is probably the best take one can put on the whole thing - I personally think that it was to mask the "Tennerife glow" with enough corticosteroids that the other special stuff got masked with the outrageous high for Prednisone

you naughty monkey! Sky are the cleanest of the clean. Sir Brailsford told us so and he is a knight of the empire. No lies!
 
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That was the stage where Sky admitted Froome waited for Spilak, and noone else could go with Froome when he left them for dead on the MTF.
 
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They have reacted! This is huge.


"Brian Cookson OBE @BrianCooksonUCI · 1 t

A statement will be issued very shortly on the story re Chris Froome and a TUE. We are checking the facts, as you would rightly expect."


"UCI @UCI_cycling · 55 min

PRESS RELEASE: UCI response to media allegations concerning Christopher Froome’s recent TUE http://ow.ly/y331e #cycling"
 
GreasyMonkey said:
So let's get the timeline sorted...

26th April, flies back from Tennerife for L-B-L, found to have "suddenly" developed a terrible cold/flu, and is pulled.

29th April, get an "urgent" TUE for Prednisone for asthma/bronchial inflammation,

29th April, starts Tour of Romandie, and rips the legs off all, including ITT World Champion, in the ITT.

Sorry, I see NOTHING "urgent" about the whole thing - it is not like Team Sky had no forewarning of his condition.

If they were happy to pull him for a World Tour one-day race, where they were beyond the cut-off time to substitute him, then shove him in another WT race, (where they could have placed a reserve rider in for him), this time a six-day race in the cold & wet of western Switzerland in early May.

Looks damned stupid of SKY management to me, given that he was already the designated "protected leader" for their TdF, and Romandie is not exactly the most important race for TdF preparation.
Now he looks like the "Froome we all know and love" (thank you Hoggy), four weeks out from the TdF.....

That is probably the best take one can put on the whole thing - I personally think that it was to mask the "Tennerife glow" with enough corticosteroids that the other special stuff got masked with the outrageous high for Prednisone

Ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner.
 
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so they pulled him from LBL because he was glowing.. (something which i remember some posters were speculating at the time)

but why didnt they just pull him from Romandie as well? why risk it?
 
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Granville57 said:
I wish someone had posted this earlier.

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PRESS RELEASE: UCI response to media allegations concerning Christopher Froome’s recent TUE

15.06.2014

Christopher Froome’s TUE for oral use of glucocorticosteroids was granted on April 29, 2014 based on duly documented medical history and in compliance with the applicable UCI Regulations and the relevant WADA guidelines. The TUE was granted for a limited period, following the usual procedure.

The process was fully transparent as it is UCI’s policy to systematically record all TUEs on ADAMS. WADA was therefore informed throughout the process.

The UCI wishes to emphasise that under the applicable rules – which are consistent with the WADA Code and the WADA TUE Standard and Guidelines – any rider with the same symptoms as Christopher Froome would have received a similar TUE.

The UCI would like to express its profound disappointment with the speculations that have been made suggesting its President could have any influence on the granting of TUEs. The UCI President and the UCI Administration have absolutely no involvement with decisions on TUEs. Insinuating that Brian Cookson’s son’s employment with Team Sky could have something to do with the decision to grant the TUE is an unfounded allegation which will be dealt with seriously.

:eek: !
 
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red_flanders said:
What risk? They got the TUE they needed for what was still in his system.

Wonder did internal tests show he was glowing or was it knowledge and experience of the roids due to how much he took?
 
Fzotrlool said:
They have reacted! This is huge.


"Brian Cookson OBE @BrianCooksonUCI · 1 t

A statement will be issued very shortly on the story re Chris Froome and a TUE. We are checking the facts, as you would rightly expect."


"UCI @UCI_cycling · 55 min

PRESS RELEASE: UCI response to media allegations concerning Christopher Froome’s recent TUE http://ow.ly/y331e #cycling"

I 100% guarantee the reaction will be that everything was done according to the rules.

Which does nothing to address the timeline in GreasyMonkey's post. Which nails it.
 
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red_flanders said:
What risk? They got the TUE they needed for what was still in his system.

I mean the risk of a PR nightmare like this. But maybe they werent expecting it to get out.
 
the sceptic said:
I mean the risk of a PR nightmare like this. But maybe they werent expecting it to get out.

Probably. Look, the UCI don't even need to be complicit for this to work. Sky figure out Froome is glowing. They apply for the rush TUE. If they get it, he rides. If not, he's still "suffering from the flu" and is scrubbed. UCI guaranteed to come out and say it's all above board, which it is, technically.

None of it however, explains why a rider with such an "acute" respiratory issue is riding, let along smashing the field.