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I find it strange that Lotto is not riding the Tour of Turkey where there are sprint opportunities for Ewan and GC possibilities for Sepulveda, instead of Romandie - I understand Romandie has got weaker over the last few years but It will be tougher to get results.

The full list of teams for ToT has not been announced yet, so they might still be riding it.

Tour of Turkey also is .1 now, so it's not like there are many points to win. In fact, with a stronger team they'd probably score more in Taiwan.

And as discussed before, in many cases it's also about money. At the Tour of Turkey it surely weren't the great roads which used to attract all those star sprinters. Maybe they are less interested in a PT now, while some sponsor in Taiwan was willing to pay for the trip.

 

[yaco]

Tour of Turkey also is .1 now, so it's not like there are many points to win. In fact, with a stronger team they'd probably score more in Taiwan.

And as discussed before, in many cases it's also about money. At the Tour of Turkey it surely weren't the great roads which used to attract all those star sprinters. Maybe they are less interested in a PT now, while some sponsor in Taiwan was willing to pay for the trip.

My reference to the Tour of Turkey was that it was a better race than Romandie if you are hunting UCI points and it always has sprint stages which may get a Ewan into form and test out one of the younger GC prospects in the team - I doubt the Tour of Taiwan would pay money for Lotto's Development team supplemented with two riders from their pro team.

 

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I doubt the Tour of Taiwan would pay money for Lotto's Development team supplemented with two riders from their pro team.

it's not the devo team but PT in Taiwan

 

[yaco]

it's not the devo team but PT in Taiwan

Sorry it's the senior team with three development riders out of five which I mentioned in an earlier post - The principle is still the same,that its unlikely the Tour or Taiwan would pay the team a fee to attend the race - Some reimbursement of expenses is possible.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

In bad news for Spanish and (part of the) Italian ProTeams and good news for everyone else...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637043880582340610

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I'm glad to see the second paragraph, so that ambitious new teams are not excluded. But existing teams getting a budget boost and signing a bunch of riders of greater ability than they previously had are not, as I read it, eligible to the same consideration.

 

[Samamba]

Alpecin with 1200 points in 1 day lmao

 

[Netserk]

Alpecin with 1200 points in 1 day lmao

Good. You clearly want a team in the WT that can perform on the biggest stage like they can.

 

[Samamba]

 

[Ricco']

Astana is just embarassing.

Serves them right for spending their money in a sprinter who needs an oiled sprint train to perform (in a team whose biggest sprinters in the past years might have been Guardini, Benfatto and Minali, without any remarkable results) and on another who has been invisible for 1 or 2 years, when Quintana is without a team.

 

[Samamba]

Astana is just embarassing.

Serves them right for spending their money in a sprinter who needs an oiled sprint train to perform (in a team whose biggest sprinters in the past years might have been Guardini, Benfatto and Minali, without any remarkable results) and on another who has been invisible for 1 or 2 years, when Quintana is without a team.

I don't think getting catmurderer Tiberi is going to help them either honestly. Just a horrible team all around.

 

[tobydawq]

Jumbo seem to be saved.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Corratec still being behind freaking Novo Nordisk makes me think there should some bare minimum requirement for WT wildcards, also outside GTs. Instead, we will see them fail to do anything other than being in token breakaways on the handful of flat stages for three weeks straight at the Giro. Keep in mind this is a team that hasn't scored a top-10 result in a pro race since San Juan back in January, where they got their only two of the season. Effectively means every RCS race is running with one team less, because a single gust of wind is unironically more impactful than their presence.

Also, I hope Astana fold before this cycle is over. Them taking a spot in every WT race for the next three years helps nobody.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Corratec still being behind freaking Novo Nordisk makes me think there should some bare minimum requirement for WT wildcards, also outside GTs

There is. Or will be, going forward.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Has that been announced, or is it your prediction?

 

[pastronef]

Also, I hope Astana fold before this cycle is over. Them taking a spot in every WT race for the next three years helps nobody.

same here

 

[Lequack]

More updates, UAE still raking up points, Jumbo Visma in danger of relegation

In just two months Alpecin climbed from last to 3rd, mostly thanks to MVDP. And Jumbo from 19th to 1st, thanks to Roglic, Vinge, Wout and Laporte.
Meanwhile Astana stays last.

 

[Ricco']

73% of the Alpecin points come from Philipsen/Van der Poel

30,5% of UAE come from Pogacar

52,1% of Jumbo-Visma come from Roglic/Van Aert/Vingegaard, where Roglic + Vingegaard have little more points together than WVA.

 

[yaco]

73% of the Alpecin points come from Philipsen/Van der Poel

30,5% of UAE come from Pogacar

52,1% of Jumbo-Visma come from Roglic/Van Aert/Vingegaard, where Roglic + Vingegaard have little more points together than WVA.

This is why I previously posted that if a team like Astana got lucky with a super-talent then could quickly rise up the rankings - In saying that it's a long shot.

 

[Lequack]

Points after today

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Points after today

It says last updated: 30/04 so I presume before today, No?

 

[Lequack]

It says last updated: 30/04 so I presume before today, No?

True.

 

[Samamba]

UNO X has now surpassed TotalEnergies on the 2023 ranking. They are now the 3 PCT team meaning they will get guaranteed wildcards to every WT one days race next season. That is if they stay above Total obviously, but looking at the form of both teams right now...

Lotto certainly and Israel honestly too are basically already guaranteed to get all the WT wildcards for 2024.

 

[aruipksni]

12/6/24
we are now in the middle of UCI's WorldTour evaluation period 2023-2025.
as it stands now, the relegated teams will be :
1)Arkea (-1129 from DSM)
2)Astana (-3287 from DSM)

*Uno-X will not be promoterd -2651 to DSM

the promoted teams
1)Lotto
2)IPT

as it stands now 2025 WT wildcard teams will be:
1)Lotto - all events (1914 points from Uno-x)
2)IPT - all event (1215 from Uno-x)
3)Uno-X - one day

 

[Samamba]

12/6/24
we are now in the middle of UCI's WorldTour evaluation period 2023-2025.
as it stands now, the relegated teams will be :
1)Arkea (-1129 from Dsm)
2)Astana (-3287 from Dsm)

the promoted teams
1)Lotto (9236 from uno-x)
2)IPT (4628 from uno-x)

a it stands now 2025 WT wildcards
1)Lotto - all events (1914 points from uno-x)
2)IPT - all event (1215 from uno-x)
3)Uno-x - one day

To be clear. It does not matter for Lotto or IPT what their gap is to Uno X on the 3y ranking. Just the top 18 of all teams count (so just like others gap to Arkea to promote). And so technically you could add UNO X in the first part as they also still has a (small) shot at promoting if they overtake Arkea and DSM (or another team in the top 18).

For the wildcards you indeed have to look at the gap to UNO X on THIS years ranking.