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UCI World Championships 2010, Geelong: Early Thread

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M Sport said:
I read yesterday that Victoria is having the wettest year since 1996. So chances are it will be wet.

On the upside October is supposed to be one of the drier months and forecasters are predicting a warmer drier spring than normal.

I hope it's as windy as hell though. That road to Geelong is a nightmare in the wind and could split things wide open.

???? October is only 2nd to July on Average rainfall
 
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Can anybody please explain to me why France and Slovenia have seven starters instead of six and Luxembourg four instead of three? I tried to figure that out by myself but these rules are not easy to understand for non-native speakers...
 
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Janjapan said:
Can anybody please explain to me why France and Slovenia have seven starters instead of six and Luxembourg four instead of three? I tried to figure that out by myself but these rules are not easy to understand for non-native speakers...

I read in 2cycle that because Kazakhstan is only allowed to have 6 riders to start the other 3 starters are given to Luxembourg, Slovenia and France which are 11 to 13 on UCI world ranking.
 
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joy118118 said:
I read in 2cycle that because Kazakhstan is only allowed to have 6 riders to start the other 3 starters are given to Luxembourg, Slovenia and France which are 11 to 13 on UCI world ranking.

Ah, okay, thank you!
 
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luckyboy said:
This has probably been discussed somewhere else today, but Morocco, Venezuela and Iran have more riders than the UK?! I'm not patriotic at all btw, just seems very odd :confused:

Someone care to explain please? :p

In short?
- Cav and Wiggo did much worse than last year, so you're out of the top 10 in the world because they got the large majority of your points in 2009 (MSR and TdF).
- SKY grabbed all the Brits and stuck them in a ProTour team where they can't score points for the Europe Continental tour; plus those that can score (non-PT riders) didn't. As a result you're way, way down in the Continental Tour.
- Moroccan, Venezuelan and Iran riders ride for local races in non-PT teams, so they grab a lot of points for their respective Continental tours (sh*t small races, if you will); where they're higher up than GB and they therefore get to send more riders.

Edit to say that the maximum 9 men squads go to the first ten on the world tour, if you're not in the top ten in the world your quota is decided by your position on the Continental Tour.
 
luckyboy said:
This has probably been discussed somewhere else today, but Morocco, Venezuela and Iran have more riders than the UK?! I'm not patriotic at all btw, just seems very odd :confused:

Someone care to explain please? :p

1) UCI rules are stupid
2) Those countries have dominated their respective UCI Continental Tours - as the UK has most of its top names on Sky (who cannot score Continental Tour points, as they're a ProTour team, so only score points towards the World Ranking) and its Continental teams don't really race outside of Britain much, and Wiggins and Cavendish have had disappointing years, Britain hasn't scored much.
3) Because of teams like Sky arriving, teams like Bbox and Cofidis were kicked off the ProTour. Their riders have meant France were at the top of the Continental Rankings or thereabouts, meaning above Britain.
4) British Cycling and Team Sky have played the (unfair and bizarre) system to their favour all season long, getting invites to big races at the expense of teams who would offer far more. They fought hard to unify all the British talent under one team, and rubbed other teams up the wrong way. Having all the riders under one umbrella has meant that most of the time they've been working for other riders and not scoring in their own right, and the races they have been able to do well in have been .HC and .1 races that, while great for gaining Continental points with Barloworld, are now irrelevant, because Team Sky riders cannot score points at them. Hence, the very system they've been taking advantage of has served to hurt them. Tough luck.
 
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tgsgirl said:
Right, cause that worked out perfectly for everyone in Roubaix.

The man to mark was Boonen... Also Flecha, Pozzato and Thor didn't want to work with Boonen to hammer the gap...

tgsgirl said:
(sh*t small races, if you will)

Some times those races have way more level than the european one... sooo watch what you say ***edited by mod***
 
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Ryaguas said:
The man to mark was Boonen... Also Flecha, Pozzato and Thor didn't want to work with Boonen to hammer the gap...

After RVV only the stupid didn't consider Cancellara to be a big, big favourite.

Ryaguas said:
Some times those races have way more level than the european one... sooo watch what you say ***edited by mod***

Get a sense of humour.
 
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tgsgirl said:
After RVV only the stupid didn't consider Cancellara to be a big, big favourite.



Get a sense of humour.

Cyclists don't tend to be the smartest of the bunch.

The main man to mark was still Boonen. Hopefully things will change in the future otherwise we're up for some boring races.
 
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El Pistolero said:
The main man to mark was still Boonen. Hopefully things will change in the future otherwise we're up for some boring races.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have kept an eye on Boonen as well, but if they didn't think "oh, that large Swiss dude with the giant white cross on his jersey, I bet he's not half bad if we let him do a solo ride" in Roubaix, then they're never going to think it.
 
Ryaguas said:
The man to mark was Boonen... Also Flecha, Pozzato and Thor didn't want to work with Boonen to hammer the gap...

Boonen, Flecha, Pozzato and Thor were the race favorites (along with Cancellara)
They had been dreaming for a year of winning this race.
But the moment Cancellara rode away from them like they were standing still, they KNEW they were racing for second.
That's why they didn't bother hammering the gap.

An "in form" Cancellara could do the same thing in Geelong.
 
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Ryaguas said:
No... what you say about small races in America... every race deserves respect... doesn't matter if is here in Pau or in Guam...

I think your issue is really with Cavendish, not tgsgirl, who was making a reference to some controversial comments by Cavendish earlier this year, when he dismissed Greipel's successes as coming in "sh*t small races".
 
Spare Tyre said:
I think your issue is really with Cavendish, not tgsgirl, who was making a reference to some controversial comments by Cavendish earlier this year, when he dismissed Greipel's successes as coming in "sh*t small races".
The thing is, Cavendish was ultimately right, and by proxy so is tgsgirl . Of course, you can put it in more respectful terms, but the message itself has merit.