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UCI's response to USADA report

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It doesn't matter what they say.

They have already lost, and cannot say anything that will not result in laughter and derision.

Well, except that Pat could announce his retirement.

If they accept the USADA file, we will laugh and will have some awesome quotations.

If they don't accept the USADA file, we will laugh and have some even better quotations.

They are already in flames, but almost certainly do not realize it.

My prediction: Zorzoli will be suspended again.

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Cobblestones said:
As has been said in several posts, it's rumored to come on Monday. The day of the week and the possibility of a press conference are worrying. Normally you'd release bad news quietly around closing of business on a Friday afternoon. It seems the UCI is aiming at the precise opposite.

It was probably just brought forward from Friday because of the Nike, Livestrong and Rabobank announcements. No way the UCI contests now, well not Lance's sanctions anyway. It wouldn't surprise me if they challenge the others six month deals.
 
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jilbiker said:
UCI's hand was forced. Verbruggen had said decision will be next friday. Rabobank pulled out which was a shock and before other sponsors joined just like the avalanche that followed the Nike pull out, they had to make an announcement. They know the sponsors are all waiting for monday, if they fight it, there will be an avalanche. if they skirt around, there will be an avalanche, i am predicting some major changes. The pocket is where it bites the most and Rabobank move was bad

Very sensible. Rabo was a shock, and it was a bad one.

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I think they will appeal the six month suspensions and rubber stamp the Armstrong sanction. Also whatever text is released will stress how much the UCI done to fight doping.

The smart thing to do would be to use the occasion to announce some kind of new anti-doping effort.

I think this prediction has a good chance of coming true. It is certainly one possible scenario. It fits with the McQuaid MO, I think. Allows them to fight and hold the moral high ground, but still go along with the flow.

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the uci isn't going to lose money over this either way
Maybe not, but all the people who support the sport do, and some of those people sit on the board that is behind McQuaid. And surely all those CEO's have access to the top UCI guys - you know how that goes. If I call, its "who??", if the CEO of Giant, Rabo, or ASO calls, "Yes SIR, right away, sir!".
 
I dont think that the UCI can do anything but ratify the USADA decisions. Sponsors are starting to jump ship as it is now, and more may follow. I am not really keen on the suspensions being only 6 months, considering that some are still active riders, but i guess that is a price to be paid to loosen their lips.

And of course, there needs to be a massive cleanout of positions at the top of the UCI, starting with a few resignations or retirements on Monday.
 
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I dont think that the UCI can do anything but ratify the USADA decisions. Sponsors are starting to jump ship as it is now, and more may follow. I am not really keen on the suspensions being only 6 months, considering that some are still active riders, but i guess that is a price to be paid to loosen their lips.

And of course, there needs to be a massive cleanout of positions at the top of the UCI, starting with a few resignations or retirements on Monday.


The decision makers at the UCI are just two people, Pat McQuaid and Hein Verbruggen. They have shown their bias already. Both know about hiding positive drug tests and accepting inappropriate donations. These two men have no morals, no integrity. Their entire past history indicates that they will fight the USADA evidence.
 
Calls for cycling to be dropped from the Games.

Thompson added: 'The whole UCI are clearly not fit for purpose. I don't know if they're allowed to, but it really is the sort of thing where the IOC should be able to step in and say, "Hold on a minute. If you want to be a part of our family, you need to sort things out".

'I don't know if they have the power to do that but they should. I know there are links but the Olympics is a very special thing, it carries a lot of weight and it should use its influence.

'There should be sanctions against cycling being a part of the next Olympic Games unless they put their house in order. I want drug cheats thrown out, never to return.

'I'm not defending them, but we need to look at how things developed so that they could cheat in the first place. Sanctions against cheating athletes are essential but they also need to be applied against seemingly complicit governing bodies.

'I don't think people who take part in cycling, the competitors and the people at the grass roots who go out at the weekend on their bikes just for the sheer love of it, feel any sort of connection or even confidence in the people who run their sport, and that's terrible.

'The two sides, the governing body and the competitors have grown so far apart that it has become a disgrace and it's not fair on cycling. The loser is the very sport they're meant to be protecting and we should always remember that it's not the people at the top who own the sport, not the people in the nice offices and the big, flash hotels.

'It's the cyclists who are looking at the reputation of their sport suffering, and it's not right.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...-banned-Olympics-Lance-Armstrong-scandal.html
 

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Even if cycling had been eliminated from olympic program, MQuaid and Verbrugghen would anyways have said: "We did everything right. There's nothing to apologize for". :D
 
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thehog said:

Sorry, no link, but I read somewhere today that IOC are actually investigating Phat McQuaid's role in this mess, but that Verbruggen is likely to get out of this with a scratch, since he is rather close with Rogge.
If I had to choose between the two, I'd prefer Verbruggen to go down more than Phat, but if that article is right it seems as if IOC might be trying to scapegoat Phat.
 
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Sky Sports News (UK) is making a big deal of this press conference. Showing live from midday. Had reports from conference room already. Never seen that before on UK tv. Reporter knew what she was talking about as well which is a bonus.

They are not just concentrating on Lance which I was slightly worried about.

Everything points towards UCI having to back USADA decision. If they don't every journalist should stand up and walk out of that room instantly.

Having said that its UCI were talking about here. Thats why Im glad SKY Sports are showing it live and will have it on loop for the rest of today.

There is a chance the greater British public are about to get there first lesson in corruption from Mr McQuaid.
 
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Pa' Plank of the "You see I" ignore/cover up will be appearing to appear with his friend Pat "the Plank" Kenny tomorrow morning(Tuesday) at 10 am straight after the news on RTE radio 1. It's being trailered now and should happen because you don't let the "Plank" down. He is likely to tell Pat at some point how clever he(Kenny) is !!


http://www.rte.ie/radio/
 

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AcademyCC said:
Sky Sports News (UK) is making a big deal of this press conference. Showing live from midday. Had reports from conference room already. Never seen that before on UK tv. Reporter knew what she was talking about as well which is a bonus.

They are not just concentrating on Lance which I was slightly worried about.

Everything points towards UCI having to back USADA decision. If they don't every journalist should stand up and walk out of that room instantly.

Having said that its UCI were talking about here. Thats why Im glad SKY Sports are showing it live and will have it on loop for the rest of today.

There is a chance the greater British public are about to get there first lesson in corruption from Mr McQuaid.

They might appeal to increase sanctions against such as leipheimer and hincapie - and in my view they were too lenient- that way getting back jurisdiction and not being seen as soft on drugs.
 
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Big Daddy said:
The decision makers at the UCI are just two people, Pat McQuaid and Hein Verbruggen. They have shown their bias already. Both know about hiding positive drug tests and accepting inappropriate donations. These two men have no morals, no integrity. Their entire past history indicates that they will fight the USADA evidence.

I have read the full works from USADA, and nowhere can I find any proof that the statement "Both know about hiding positive drug tests and accepting inappropriate donations" ???? There is a lot of she said, he said, she said.... and a lovely quote regarding Nike saying "he couldn't imagine where else the money had come from"...not exactly onclusive proof????
 
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rishtonred said:
I have read the full works from USADA, and nowhere can I find any proof that the statement "Both know about hiding positive drug tests and accepting inappropriate donations" ???? There is a lot of she said, he said, she said.... and a lovely quote regarding Nike saying "he couldn't imagine where else the money had come from"...not exactly onclusive proof????
but they risk of it coming out at CAS if it were true if they appeal I would think
 

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rishtonred said:
I have read the full works from USADA, and nowhere can I find any proof that the statement "Both know about hiding positive drug tests and accepting inappropriate donations" ???? There is a lot of she said, he said, she said.... and a lovely quote regarding Nike saying "he couldn't imagine where else the money had come from"...not exactly onclusive proof????

you will not find it.

The entire report is kangaroo justice and opinion masquerading as a legal document, Im no fan of Armstrong but even less of these sport banana dictatorships. These bodies and such as UCI are why dopers survive

The likes even of Tom Boonen are saying it of USADA
 
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mountainrman said:
you will not find it.

The entire report is kangaroo justice and opinion masquerading as a legal document, Im no fan of Armstrong but even less of these sport banana dictatorships. These bodies and such as UCI are why dopers survive

The likes even of Tom Boonen are saying it of USADA

Remarkable.

You got 2 points from you checklist in anyway. 1) Kangaroo 2) Not an Armstrong fan. Missed a few of the regulars but you cant be obvious straight away. Fair enough.

Tom Boonen!! Hahahahahaha. Hes been hiding in his garden shed for the last 2 weeks praying his name didn't come up anywhere.
 
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