US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[straydog]

Carmichael seems to be coach of Armstrong as a junior cyclist at 1990 World Junior Cycling (not Triathlon) Championships.

1990....Armstrong rode senior worlds....not the juniors.

He rode the junior worlds when he was 17, in his last year of high school and Carmichael was not his coach.

Any clearer yet? Don't rush your application for that internship at Novitsky's like you rush your posts

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

Ban or avatar bets!
I want to see Insider vs Insider- goober vs Race Radio though

 

[straydog]

Hello my little chums.

Some time ago I was denounced for predicting that the Novitzky investigation would come to nothing after the Bonds case came to little. I was right.

Now I will state that the USADA case will come to nothing as they will have little appetite for spending a lot of money trying to prosecute someone from many years ago without a 'smoking gun'.

If I'm right. What then for you all?

Will you actually watch some cycling? My recommendation. Some of it is rather good.
Will you find evidence that Armstrong has an unpaid parking ticket and flog that particular horse for a year.
Find some other 'cause' to relentlessly bang on about. (There's some moon conspiracy theorists who also think Armstrong is a fake.)

I predict serious bouts of whining, crying, mutual grief "relief" and someone quoting a "source" close to the USADA case who told them they dropped all charges because Armstrong was nasty and called one of them a name outside the toilets at Maccy D's.

 

[straydog]

Often referred to as the "spank bank"...

how did I miss this one?....chapeau...very funny

 

[The Plediadian]

If the investigation was politicised and shut down for these reasons,
how does that sit with Novitzky et al?

Is he just gonna file it all and tell himself, "It's just my job, and I want to keep it, so next case please,"?

Or is he mad as hell, demoralised and disillusioned with the eagle on his badge?

I don't think Jeff cares one way or another. He realized it was a job larger than himself. and was lucky not to be dragged through the mud.
There are always other fish to fry, crime never takes a vacation.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Recently, I am praying that he would. And you are so patient, Chris.
Since he is pushing the fullretardpedal and postfrequenzy to the bottomplate in last days, all over the forum, I had to ban myself from posting for most of the time and just hugged my cats after reading.
His recent performance in the Whitney thread and those several Chewbacca defenses in the JU thread were really outstanding. Impressive. Godlike.

I am even thinking about emigrating again. Perhaps I should just change my nationality in User CP.
I am even more ashamed of him, than about our Bundespräsident a.d..

Glashaus, you know? Just remind you of your nonsense in the NFL-Thread, not to mention the rest of your BS and hard to understand posts. Yo, better leave germany. A shame to come from the same country as you. I know you like insults, so eat this one.

 

[LarryBudMelman]

Mr. Crawfords greatest hits....

Crawfish's twitter was down but its back up dont know if any tweets were deleted.

Rick Crawford

@rickcrawfish

family man and cycling coach

Durango, CO · http://www.coloradopremiertraining.com/

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Rick Crawford@rickcrawfish

I hear tell my alter ego was on the rampage last night.

@TheCycleSeen I'm assuming some political pressure was exerted to get US Attny Gen to drop a case that was near slam dunk indictment stage.


@TheCycleSeen UCI aren't politicians? What planet you from? Governing body of cycling deciding who wins/loses/tests poz. Whatever dude.

@TheCycleSeen I work in this sport all day every day for the last 30some years. I've earned the right to ***** for a couple of hours.

@TheCycleSeen UCI payments were well documented. Not my opinion. Fact.


Truly, I'm done. Send the subpoenas to Uranus. Broke already so go ahead sue me. Tomorrow more bashing. Been stimulatin. G'nite.

@TheCycleSeen Why go after the ones that bought favors? Conspired? Bought politicians to drop their case. Damn! Do you work for him? Jeez!!!

The guys with any credibility from that era fessed up to their sins. The ones that didn't fess up are the biggest coward scumbags.

@TheCycleSeen 2012 and he's still competing. Still owning teams. Still making gobs of money from unethical gains. Time don't fix that.

That's all for tonight folks! Box o wine is empty. Maybe I'll roast another dooshbag tomorrow. Or maybe I'll be that dooshbag. Goodnite!

@andrew_f_martin @chiefhiawatha And Tommy D is a clean athlete. We used centrifuges and ate liver by the pound. Centrifuges provide data.

@chiefhiawatha Do expound plz chief. Allegations from who? Clinger? DeCanio? 2 certified nutjobs? C'mon! Spinners illegal? Didnt know that?


@AdamMyerson Shazammm! Myerson dropping the Shakespeare. Who can argue with that? Ohhh. Gingrich can. But besides him?


What will they put on my headstone when Lance has me off'd?

@UCI_Overlord Oh jeez NPMcQ! I'm trying to be in front. Not behind! Or underneath. Or invisible. Just right here! Doing stuff!

@Kqh Nope. Fire is always hot on something. Lance just happens to be the fuel tonight.

Just can't abide this Lance as some icon thing anymore. Over it. Compared to Lance... I am a saint. Which makes him a real ****ball.


I certainly don't want to create the illusion that I'm some saint. Oh hell no? My farts stink bad, my breath stinks. I misbehave badly.

I sleep well. Sore and fatigued from my labor. But not troubled by demons. Not wired by politics. Rules mean something to me. Win by them.

I'm not scared of Lance. He decides to get me fired I'm a proficient hunter/ditch digger/cage fighter. I've brawled. I'll provide for family

My favorite

@Cycle_Coach_Ace I'm just fed up with the self promoting BS that Lance has always been about. The ulitmate parody in irony is Lance/Charity

@Cycle_Coach_Ace Nope. Just talking straight as always. World is not sterile. It's dirty. Let's just talk truth. No paradigm shift for me.

I'm no Lance lover. Everyone I know well knows that. Lance of all people knows that, and he knows why. I'm no sniper. I'm right here.

 

[Velodude]

1990....Armstrong rode the senior worlds....not the juniors.

He rode the junior worlds when he was 17, in his last year of high school and Carmichael was not his coach.

Any clearer yet? Don't rush your application for that internship at Novitsky's like you rush your posts

You are really encouraging pedantry

Could not have ridden in 1990 senior Worlds cos he came 11th in 1990 Junior Worlds in Moscow.

No claim he rode junior worlds at 17 either

In high school, Armstrong started focusing on cycling. He was a member of Hoyt's Richardson Bike Mart team and trained with 20-something riders at age 16. Armstrong competed in his first international race at the 1990 junior world cycling championships in Moscow, finishing 11th. The next year, Armstrong won the United States amateur championship.

http://espn.go.com/espn/topics/_/page/lance-armstrong

Backup confirmation

The U.S. team coach, Chris Carmichael, recognized Armstrong's aggressive, headstrong nature and sought to rein it in and teach him the skills of international cycling competition. At the 1990 World Championships, his first race with the national team, Armstrong ignored Carmichael, who had instructed him to pace himself and remain with the "peloton," or pack of cyclists, on the 115-mile course. Armstrong went full force, and pulled far ahead of the peloton. As he tired though, the pack caught up with him and the riders who had conserved their energy pulled ahead. Still, Armstrong finished a respectable 11th, the best finish ever for an American in the race. Armstrong, who was nicknamed the Texas Bull, had many similar experiences, but never seemed to be able to learn from them.


http://sports.jrank.org/pages/175/Armstrong-Lance-Coach-Tried-Rein-Him-In.html#ixzz1mmsWpInD

60 Minutes interview with Armstrong team mate Strock

"It was kind of a blur," he told 60 Minutes II Correspondent Scott Pelley. "You know, one minute I'm riding my bike in the cornfields, and, and the next minute I'm on the national team, and going to Moscow for the junior Worlds."

The national teams are where America's Olympic athletes are trained, and Strock was on the fast track. Lance Armstrong and five future Olympians were also riding for America that year. Strock never made it to the Olympics. At the top of his game, he was struck down by a catastrophic illness.

 

[straydog]

You are really encouraging pedantry


...from your link...1989 Competes in the Junior World Championships in Moscow

Dude...trust me...90 was World Amateur Championship in Japan...89 was juniors in moscow...and my point remains incidentally. Armstrong met Carmichael at 18....Crawford was coaching him at 14...but be my guest keep googling, you're obviously enjoying it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Dude...trust me...90 was World Amateur Championship in Japan...89 was juniors in moscow...and my point remains incidentally. Armstrong met Carmichael at 18....Crawford was coaching him at 14...but be my guest keep googling, you're obviously enjoying it.

Well this was your point when you brought up Crawford and insinuated he had a doping history - so are you now suggesting our Lance was doping from 14?

 

[straydog]

Well this was your point when you brought up Crawford and insinuated he had a doping history - so are you now suggesting our Lance was doping from 14?

yes clearly that is what I am suggesting Mas...clearly

I was merely pointing out the irony in yet another critic and accuser of Armstrong's, having had themselves a somewhat checkered past.

p.s I didn't bring up Crawford....someone else did that many many pages ago. You are slipping Mas. I think you've had enough beer now, don't you?

 

[mewmewmew13]

Well this was your point when you brought up Crawford and insinuated he had a doping history - so are you now suggesting our Lance was doping from 14?

So tell straydog to get on twitter and ask him himself.
Crawford ready to answer questions with his box o wine....

 

[straydog]

So tell straydog to get on twitter and ask him himself.
Crawford ready to answer questions with his box o wine....

Indeed, he's certainly more talkative when he's been on the sauce

Actually, he did respond to someone on twitter about those centrifuges he used with TD.....purely to collect data he said.

He used to work at Garmin's development squad too...not any more...wonder what happened there?

 

[mewmewmew13]

Indeed, he's certainly more talkative when he's been on the sauce

Actually, he did respond to someone on twitter about those centrifuges he used with TD.....purely to collect data he said.

He used to work at Garmin's development squad too...not any more...wonder what happened there?

So go ask him yourself. Then you can ask JV about the dev squad since you seem to be enjoying bravado...
You are implying that he is a doper when you have nothing to substantiate except innuendo.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

yes clearly that is what I am suggesting Mas...clearly

I was merely pointing out the irony in yet another critic and accuser of Armstrong's, having had themselves a somewhat checkered past.

p.s I didn't bring up Crawford....someone else did that many many pages ago. You are slipping Mas. I think you've had enough beer now, don't you?

I didn't say you brought up Crawford - that was RR - however it was you who made the insinuations about Crawfords past.

I guess you don't see the irony in defending Lance by making claims that his coach when he was 14 had a "checkered past".

 

[Race Radio]

Hate to wade into this chaos but Junior Worlds were in Moscow in 1989. I remember it pretty clearly. Armstrong stayed off the front most of the race. The Euros were impressed by his strength, but not his tactical acumen. Chann McRea also rode for the National team that day.

Another strong guy came in third, Steffen Wesemann

 

[straydog]

So go ask him yourself. Then you can ask JV about the dev squad since you seem to be enjoying bravado...
You are implying that he is a doper when you have nothing to substantiate except innuendo.

ha ha...now that is really funny...since when did that stop anyone else on here?

Hey i posted the link to what Decanio said Kayle had told him, if you don't want to read it, that's your look out, and I merely mentioned that Crawford himself has talked about using ""blood spinners" with TD, and that it was purely for collecting data. Is there a problem officer? Correct me if I am wrong, isn't this the clinic? Where this kind of stuff gets "discussed"?

 

[straydog]

Hate to wade into this chaos but Junior Worlds were in Moscow in 1989. I remember it pretty clearly. Armstrong stayed off the front most of the race. The Euros were impressed by his strength, but not his tactical acumen. Chann McRea also rode for the National team that day.

Another strong guy came in third, Steffen Wesemann

ha ha...wow I must be drunk...is that Race "sort of" backing me up?....I remember it too...1990 came 11th in Japan, did the same thing, rode off the front and faded pretty spectacularly....now who would ever have thought they would see the day that Race came to my defense? This becomes a habit, Polish is gonna get jealous

 

[mewmewmew13]

ha ha...now that is really funny...since when did that stop anyone else on here?

Hey i posted the link to what Decanio said Kayle had told him, if you don't want to read it, that's your look out, and I merely mentioned that Crawford himself has talked about using ""blood spinners" with TD, and that it was purely for collecting data. Is there a problem officer? Correct me if I am wrong, isn't this the clinic? Where this kind of stuff gets "discussed"?

You keep ignoring the fact that Crawford is ready to talk to you on t right now.

 

[Race Radio]

ha ha...wow I must be drunk...is that Race "sort of" backing me up?....I remember it too...1990 came 11th in Japan, did the same thing, rode off the front and faded pretty spectacularly....now who would ever have thought they would see the day that Race came to my defense? This becomes a habit, Polish is gonna get jealous

I am here for your service.

Too much focus on some guy who finished 11th. For double bonus points who went 1-2 in the girls race that year? Hint, they are both married to Pro Cyclists

 

[straydog]

I am here for your service.

Too much focus on some guy who finished 11th. For double bonus points who went 1-2 in the girls race that year? Hint, they are both married to Pro Cyclists

hmmm....don't know...was one of them kath shannon?

 

[straydog]

ok got it...but i cheated...

Catherine Marsal and Ruthie Matthes...honestly...I've never watched much womens racing other than the delectable Miss Pendleton...oh and Tammy cos she was hooooooot

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I am here for your service.

Too much focus on some guy who finished 11th. For double bonus points who went 1-2 in the girls race that year? Hint, they are both married to Pro Cyclists

Dede - Michael Barrys wife won and was the other Gaggiolis wife?

 

[Race Radio]

Dede - Michael Barrys wife won and was the other Gagliolis wife?

Jessie Grieco, Married to Dylan Casey.

 

[straydog]

Jessie Grieco, Married to Dylan Casey.

I was nowhere near....you two having a geek off?

Ok bed calls...and one last post in the 2012 TDF prediction thread as I am being flamed by a guy who admits his only experience of cycling himself is riding on the pavement

p.s Race...is there a Marmotte or Fondo thread still going somewhere?