USADA - Armstrong

[Microchip]

Gosh!
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Travis is awesome!

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And more handsome than the last exact picture from before!! LOL!!

 

[alberto.legstrong]

He probably even used drugs to beat cancer. What a ******.

I think he just used his belief in miracles. That and a poster of a woman that looks like Sheryl Crow.

 

[OldManThyme]

BBC in the UK - 6th main headline, 1st in sport

"Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and given a lifetime ban by the United States Anti-Doping Agency.
USADA decided he used performance-enhancing drugs to achieve his success.
Armstrong, who retired a year ago, strongly denies doping.
But the anti-doping agency said Armstrong's decision not to take the charges against him to arbitration triggers the lifetime ineligibility and erased his results from 1 August 1998.
More to follow"

"It's most unlike him to withdraw from a legal argument. But in doing this maybe he is denying USADA the chance to directly put their evidence to him and reach the conclusion that they were probably going to come to.

"He is not admitting guilt but most people will assume in their own minds there is some kind of admission given he is not contesting the charges when his legacy is on the line."

 

[mewmewmew13]

Reading that really makes me wish there was going to be a public hearing. It would have been great to get the nitty gritty detail about all that trafficing, administering, and all the rest. When the facts come out in some kind of document they won't have the same effect.

I wish we could have watched the spectacle too.
I had my popcorn ready....like the SCA tapes where he slumps in his chair with open shirt and looks like a belligerent hoodlum answering questions. That would have been icing on the cake!

Oh well, so far so good...Travis is not missing a beat or falling into Armstrong 's PR ruse.

And this earlier quote from you FF:

"On French radio they are already pointing out that his arbitration refusal was a calculated ploy to ensure the truth doesn't get out and that the jurisdiction issue is only a pretext."
Nice.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

The majority? You're kidding me. The majority either doesn't care about Lance, or thinks he's a doper.

And that is what is his going to leave the biggest stain on the myth he was trying to perpetuate. Those who don't care are going to get the real truth now. And it's not what LA wants to be his legacy at all. Justice is coming, and it's in the court he really wants to approve of him.

 

[webvan]

http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-armstrong8242012

"As noted above, Mr. Armstrong challenged the arbitration process in federal court. In response, the court found that “the USADA arbitration rules, which largely follow those of the American Arbitration Association (AAA) are sufficiently robust to satisfy the requirements of due process.” USADA’s rules provide that where an athlete or other person is sanctioned because they fail to contest USADA’s charges in arbitration, the sanction shall not be reopened or subject to appeal unless the athlete or other person can demonstrate that he did not receive actual or constructive notice of the opportunity to contest the sanction. Because Mr. Armstrong could have had a hearing before neutral arbitrators to contest USADA’s evidence and sanction and he voluntarily chose not to do so, USADA’s sanction is final."

This is pretty tight. There is no further appeal and the UCI cannot weasel out of this without losing all credibility (and Olympic participation).

I think people can start making high quality DopeStrong bike jerseys without fear of getting sued now! I want me a DopeStrong jersey!

+1

Amazingly USADA was not impressed by his "notice", what is he going to do nix, sue them?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Just finished up listening to the Dan Patrick (sports radio talk) show. He interviewed Travis Tygart at the top of the hour then took several phone calls from his audience.

If this is represents the prevailing opinion, Lance will be bigger and more important than ever. Kind of hard to believe the machinations people will go through to continue to gleefully defend and accept a total fraud.

Really unbelievable.

I don't know if this has been posted already, but that Anna Zimmerman blogger missed hitting the side of a barn with a not certain he's guilty, done so much for the sport, blah blah blah.

http://150wattsofawesome.blogspot.com/2012/08/lance-armstrong-applies-for-martyr_24.html

That's where this is going, not the straight-up guilty he's actually earned. I heard the same tripe out of an NPR show. Another doping scandal awaits.

 

[GJB123]

So far no is ahead at 56%

If this had been done 5 years ago no would have been much further ahead. It is still shifting in the right direction.

 

[RichWalk]

If this had been done 5 years ago no would have been much further ahead. It is still shifting in the right direction.

Agree, on this side of the pond, there seams to be a grass roots acceptance he doped even from those I know who have little to no interest in cycling, us Brits are always wary of a brash outspoken American

 

[Eyeballs Out]

What's the reasoning for the 1st Aug '98 cut off ?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Officially: The population is infected with approx. 46% idiots.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls

Sad, but OTOH that should be no surprise when people elect the same political parties again and again, even tough they get lied & cheated at again and again.

 

[aphronesis]

What's the reasoning for the 1st Aug '98 cut off ?

Can't sustain the borrowed "conspiracy" charge prior to that. USADA would get lost in the juvenalia and look like the office park operation that they are. As others have noted, that's already the public opinion.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Officially: The population is infected with approx. 46% idiots.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls

Sad, but OTOH that should be no surprise when people elect the same political parties again and again, even tough they get lied & cheated at again and again.

Actually that is pretty good. Not that long ago, if you were not a cyclist you believed in the myth.

When Nike, Trek, Oakley etc see these polls, they will not go unnoticed.

 

[ManInFull]

Officially: The population is infected with approx. 46% idiots.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls

Sad, but OTOH that should be no surprise when people elect the same political parties again and again, even tough they get lied & cheated at again and again.

I live in his home state and I'm surprised that the "Nos" are only winning 51-49. That's better than what I thought.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

I don't know if this has been posted already, but that Anna Zimmerman blogger missed hitting the side of a barn with a not certain he's guilty, done so much for the sport, blah blah blah.

http://150wattsofawesome.blogspot.com/2012/08/lance-armstrong-applies-for-martyr_24.html

That's where this is going, not the straight-up guilty he's actually earned. I heard the same tripe out of an NPR show. Another doping scandal awaits.

Though doth protest too much!

Haven't the sporting spectators of the world been cheated in exactly the same way 100 times already if not more? We all know this movie very well, the athlete protests his innocence,and later on the truth comes out. People are going to come to the reality that this is just the same story again but with the added insult of how he played them on a deeper level. We don't need to wait for the end of the movie this time, we already saw this one and all its sequels and they all end the same, the athlete is a liar and a cheat.

Go read the foxsports article.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I don't know if this has been posted already, but that Anna Zimmerman blogger missed hitting the side of a barn with a not certain he's guilty, done so much for the sport, blah blah blah.

http://150wattsofawesome.blogspot.com/2012/08/lance-armstrong-applies-for-martyr_24.html

That's where this is going, not the straight-up guilty he's actually earned. I heard the same tripe out of an NPR show. Another doping scandal awaits.

I'm sorry but this has pretty well defined this blogger for me..
It seems IMHO that she sometimes goes with the prevailing winds in a calculated effort to drive up interest in her statements. After all, she is trying to sell her book and rise to higher publicity levels for her own purposes.

That's my opinion btw.
After this wishy washy blog I don't think she really put herself out there as much as some fans of hers would like to think she does.

I'm done being interested in what she has to say, even though I really didn't hang on her every word before...
.movin' on.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Actually that is pretty good. Not that long ago, if you were not a cyclist you believed in the myth.

When Nike, Trek, Oakley etc see these polls, they will not go unnoticed.

+1. I was thinking of that this morning. His earnings potential just took a major hit, and his bills just keep piling up.

 

[ManInFull]

What's the reasoning for the 1st Aug '98 cut off ?

I believe that was when his comeback started with US Postal.

 

[mastersracer]

What's the reasoning for the 1st Aug '98 cut off ?

tied to US postal conspiracy.

 

[webvan]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/poll-is-lance-armstrong-guilty-of-doping/2012/08/24/d7733ce6-eded-11e1-afd6-f55f84bc0c41_blog.html

So far no is ahead at 56%

Down to 54%

 

[alberto.legstrong]

I'm sorry but this has pretty well defined this blogger for me..
It seems IMHO that she sometimes goes with the prevailing winds in a calculated effort to drive up interest in her statements. After all, she is trying to sell her book and rise to higher publicity levels for her own purposes.

That's my opinion btw.
After this wishy washy blog I don't think she really put herself out there as much as some fans of hers would like to think she does.

I'm done being interested in what she has to say, even though I really didn't hang on her every word before...
.movin' on.

She is a better than average writer and I can filter out the purposeful ambiguity she injects. Besides, I like the photo.

 

[the big ring]

I'm sorry but this has pretty well defined this blogger for me..
It seems IMHO that she sometimes goes with the prevailing winds in a calculated effort to drive up interest in her statements. After all, she is trying to sell her book and rise to higher publicity levels for her own purposes.

That's my opinion btw.
After this wishy washy blog I don't think she really put herself out there as much as some fans of hers would like to think she does.

I'm done being interested in what she has to say, even though I really didn't hang on her every word before...
.movin' on.

Based on something I read here a while back, it's interesting to read what she writes - especially this most recent piece - from the POV that she is attracted to Lance, the forbidden fruit.

Go back and read it again - it changes the meaning of the exact same words, or at least did for me.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Officially: The population is infected with approx. 46% idiots.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls

Sad, but OTOH that should be no surprise when people elect the same political parties again and again, even tough they get lied & cheated at again and again.

In my world the population is about 99% idiots, but apparently 45% of them agree with me on this point.

 

[Hugh Januss]

On this momentous day there is also this story.
http://inrng.tumblr.com/post/29472905178/itsrainingepo
I think that was going to be Lances defense but when she came up with it first he had no choice but to accept the USADA's life ban.

 

[frenchfry]

Interesting headline article in LeMonde:

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...porte-en-parrain-du-peloton_1751181_3242.html

Thibault de Montbrial : "Armstrong ne s'est pas contenté de tricher, il s'est comporté en parrain du peloton"

Pendant toutes ces années, le Texan ne s'est pas contenté de tricher, il s'est comporté en parrain du peloton, intimidant les moutons noirs tels que le français Christophe Basson, par exemple. Les leçons de morale s'ajoutaient aux provocations physiques.

"All these years the Texan wasn't just happy enough just to cheat, he acted like the godfather of the peloton, intimidating the black sheep like Christophe Bassons for example. The moral lessons were on top of the physical intimidation."