USADA - Armstrong

[pedaling squares]

On this momentous day there is also this story.
http://inrng.tumblr.com/post/29472905178/itsrainingepo
I think that was going to be Lances defense but when she came up with it first he had no choice but to accept the USADA's life ban.

Cyclists got nothing on runners. That is the best excuse ever. Makes Granny's cocaine-laced candies seem plausible. Imagine what BS would emerge if you could combine cyclists, runners, and swimmers into one sport...

 

[Banana Army]

For British guys:

A dramatic day in cycling and tonight on 5 live Sport from 19:00 BST we will discuss the Lance Armstrong issue with Sunday Times journalist David Walsh, who has written a book on the American, Doug Ulman the CEO of the Lance Armstrong Foundation, and BBC Sport's cycling expert Matt Slater.

Should be interesting that.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Actually that is pretty good. Not that long ago, if you were not a cyclist you believed in the myth.

When Nike, Trek, Oakley etc see these polls, they will not go unnoticed.

I live in his home state and I'm surprised that the "Nos" are only winning 51-49. That's better than what I thought.

OK. But what shocked me a little is that even outside the US the numbers are pretty low.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

For British guys:

A dramatic day in cycling and tonight on 5 live Sport from 19:00 BST we will discuss the Lance Armstrong issue with Sunday Times journalist David Walsh, who has written a book on the American, Doug Ulman the CEO of the Lance Armstrong Foundation, and BBC Sport's cycling expert Matt Slater.

Should be interesting that.

Think you should be able to listen to that even if you are outside of UK.

You can try here

 

[koshatnik]

Sing it high, sing it low

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg

 

[Semper Fidelis]

And Contador two more.

keep searching you might find someone at the end of the official finishers list that might deserve the win clean.
It is all about the kids.

 

[Racelap]

Congratulations Greg LeMond on being the only American to have ever won the Tour de France!

 

[mastersracer]

Actually that is pretty good. Not that long ago, if you were not a cyclist you believed in the myth.

When Nike, Trek, Oakley etc see these polls, they will not go unnoticed.

Nike already stated they'll stand by him. Playing the cancer survivor card:


From Nike:

"Lance has stated his innocence and has been unwavering on this position. Nike plans to continue to support Lance and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, a foundation that Lance created to serve cancer survivors," Nike said in a prepared statement Friday.

 

[jilbiker]

Down to 54%

Couple of years ago, there was a Washington Post writer who also wrote some Books on/with Lance. I sent an email comment during TDF on lance and juice, she rained back an email on how lance is clean and all that and how I should not go about making such ludicrous comments, almost threatening in the lance manner. Well I guess writing a book with him, something will rub off.

So i will throw out any WP polls, i think its already baised. hey, she made Mullions in the book sales so even if she saw a video of the him juicing she will only saw the video itself was juiced!...ha-ha

 

[SuperH-]

Anybody can tell me what happens to the prize money won by lance armstrong? He has to repay it ? Or what happens with the prize money?

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Interesting headline article in LeMonde:

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...porte-en-parrain-du-peloton_1751181_3242.html

Thibault de Montbrial : "Armstrong ne s'est pas contenté de tricher, il s'est comporté en parrain du peloton"

"All these years the Texan wasn't just happy enough just to cheat, he acted like the godfather of the peloton, intimidating the black sheep like Christophe Bassons for example. The moral lessons were on top of the physical intimidation."

it goes against every fiber of my being to give the french credit for anything, but that's awesome.

 

[cineteq]

Anybody can tell me what happens to the prize money won by lance armstrong? He has to repay it ? Or what happens with the prize money?

that's peanuts. what happens to all the millions he made because of those victories: sponsorships, livestrong, investments, etc? should they go to cancer victims?

 

[mikkemus23]

Mug of the Year

 

[D-Queued]

Four words: Remorseless Lying and Conning

The Sociopathic Style

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and un empathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

Dave.

 

[webvan]

SCA can now get their money back, no tour win -> no $5M bonus or $2.5M penalty...hopefully the settlement had some kind of clause about that. At the time it is said they settled because it was realized that there was no clause about not doping to achieve the 5 wins...but now there are no wins, so...

 

[Cerberus]

SCA can now get their money back, no tour win -> no $5M bonus or $2.5M penalty...hopefully the settlement had some kind of clause about that. At the time it is said they settled because it was realized that there was no clause about not doping to achieve the 5 wins...but now there are no wins, so...

As has been said, before. That depends on the terms of the settlement but most likely not.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Quote from frenchfry :
from leMonde :
"All these years the Texan wasn't just happy enough just to cheat, he acted like the godfather of the peloton, intimidating the black sheep like Christophe Bassons for example. The moral lessons were on top of the physical intimidation."

Total jerk. I need no other reasons to explain my disdain for him.

I sure hope SCA can go after and win.

 

[poupou]

From Le Monde : Lance cheated and was like a mafioso within peloton..

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...porte-en-parrain-du-peloton_1751181_3242.html

 

[DirtyWorks]

SCA can now get their money back, no tour win -> no $5M bonus or $2.5M penalty...hopefully the settlement had some kind of clause about that. At the time it is said they settled because it was realized that there was no clause about not doping to achieve the 5 wins...but now there are no wins, so...

who needs a clause? He's committed perjury during the deposition. That and he violated the foundation of every contract.

I think it will probably be handled swiftly and as quietly as possible because this is business and lawyers can eat up whatever claw-back they can get pretty quickly.

 

[FitSsikS]

Mug of the Year

...and my fave:

 

[MarkvW]

+1

Amazingly USADA was not impressed by his "notice", what is he going to do nix, sue them?

Lance has kissed his legal remedies goodbye. I don't even see a legal 'hail mary' out there.

 

[OldManThyme]

Love the t shirt!

http://www.channel24.co.za/Movies/News/Lance-Armstrong-movie-in-doubt-20120824

I really hope this goes ahead in a year or two and they do it justice as long as LA doesn't earn anything from it!!

 

[TubularBills]

Down to 54%

ESPN Poll has a much larger sample size from perhaps a more informed audience:

They have DC at Yes: 58% No: 42%

ESPN (130,000):

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls

Washington Post (2700 responses)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/poll-is-lance-armstrong-guilty-of-doping/2012/08/24/d7733ce6-eded-11e1-afd6-f55f84bc0c41_blog.html


On ESPN more informed populations have a wide margin:

CA: 57% Yes
MA: 62% Yes
NY: 61% Yes

 

[peacefultribe]

Quote from frenchfry :
from leMonde :
"All these years the Texan wasn't just happy enough just to cheat, he acted like the godfather of the peloton, intimidating the black sheep like Christophe Bassons for example. The moral lessons were on top of the physical intimidation."

Total jerk. I need no other reasons to explain my disdain for him.

I sure hope SCA can go after and win.

This is the essence of why he is not well liked. Couldn't be any clearer.

 

[webvan]

who needs a clause? He's committed perjury during the deposition. That and he violated the foundation of every contract.

Well technically he hasn't admitted to doping so perjury, dunno...On the other hand the titles are now gone so that takes care of the bonus.