USADA - Armstrong

[Kennf1]

Wow, never been in a twitter fight with someone famous before...

That he feels the need to try to fight back against me is further proof of just how much of a self absorbed *** he is. He fights them all so that he doesn't have to tell the truth. Fortunately, it looks like the USADA has the truth anyway, and all of his bullying and lying will be exposed...that is if he doesn't find a way to buy or bully his way out of it.

I just have this funny image of a dude in Aspen with $100 million in the bank furiously typing at a computer on his twitter account when he's got a team of $700/hr lawyers and PR people standing by. It's just bizarre.

 

[fishtacos]

My reply, read from the bottom up:

Thoughtforfood ‏@ChewbaccaD

@juanpelota and ****ing tell the truth you lying *******.

It's not wise to upset a wookie.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

I just have this funny image of a dude in Aspen with $100 million in the bank furiously typing at a computer on his twitter account when he's got a team of $700/hr lawyers and PR people standing by. It's just bizarre.

Either Lance twitter searches "Cancer Jesus" or he reads these here forums. I am guessing the second, but really hope it's the first.

 

[Jeremiah]

Either Lance twitter searches "Cancer Jesus" or he reads these here forums. I am guessing the second, but really hope it's the first.

Not that he doesn't deserve it, but I'd dial it back a little if I were you. Not because of any threats or anything. It just came off as over the top.

Been there before. Just let the giant redwood fall and get out of the way.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Not that he doesn't deserve it, but I'd dial it back a little if I were you. Not because of any threats or anything. It just came off as over the top.

Been there before. Just let the giant redwood fall and get out of the way.

Dialing it back is not my style, but I hear what you're saying.

 

[DomesticDomestique]

The thing you guys fail to appreciate is that not all of the tests were performed by the usual agencies. In the 500 tests, Lance is including approximately 300 incidents where he was abducted and anally probed.

Closest I've come to spewing beer out my nose while reading The Clinic.

 

[D-Queued]

Isn't it strange that Lance never tested positive, and all these other guys who were his teammates did? Seriously though if Lance was helping his teammates dope, why didn't Lance test positive shortly after the race like others did? Doesn't make any sense really.

Silly. Lance's negativity overrides all positives.

Seriously, do you live under a bridge?

The thing you guys fail to appreciate is that not all of the tests were performed by the usual agencies. In the 500 tests, Lance is including approximately 300 incidents where he was abducted and anally probed.

Worthy of POTY nominations!

Dave.

 

[JA.Tri]

When irritated Wookies go off!

I was bemused, amazed and entertained by ChewbaccaD's International Address to Mr L Armstrong.

However, while I believe Mr Armstrong heard, I doubt the message was absorbed and understood. I certainly do not believe it will be actioned.

 

[Elagabalus]

Dialing it back is not my style, ...

True, 'dat! But I still miss BroDeal ...

 

[barn yard]

Look at the NFL. Their league of super humans has had like one suspension in the 5+ years they have had drug testing.

have you ever heard of ricky williams?

 

[blackcat]

Yes, he was tested more than this. Like all athletes, his National Association is responsible for his OOC testing. In his case, this is the USADA.

The USADA has a record of 29 tests on Lance from 2000 to date. These can be added to the 64 UCI tests from 1999-2004. Combined, we have a total of 93 tests.

He may have broken the 100 test barrier with 2005 Tour and the UCI-administered Passport tests.

Passport tests are/were conducted ~ quarterly. But, this Passport program is NOT recognized by WADA and does not count as a doping test.

If you feel generous, perhaps you can go as high as 110 or even 120 official doping tests throughout his career. This would be less than 1/4 than what is claimed.

The only other tests not included here are the lactate pinpricks and whatever tests Ferrari did to 'monitor his health'. If so, then Ferrari must charge at least $1,000 per test.

Dave.

Lance did have many wins, and podiums. Were the tests rigorous in triathlon in the early 90's, late 80s. heheh ofcourse not. Like the recent ones in South America or South Africa semi ironman

I think with all of his wins, and holding the leader's jersey, like DuPont, etc, we might be looking in the vicinity of 140. I think 150 is stretching it.

But this is a false dichotomy. Did Ullrich or Basso ever fail a test. How about Zabel? There we have about 300 tests. negative test =/= clean.

And I think even contesting the #, and making the # the focus, we are advancing Armstrong's thesis. Is this falling under a confirmation bias?

I would say, disabuse the myth, the WADA and IOC myth that testing can prove the status of athletes use of PED or lack of.

 

[blackcat]

Isn't a rider automatically tested after a stage win in the TdF? IF that's the case, and if the UCI leads that test (or did during the relevant time period), then many of the tests you listed would simply be the stage victory tests - meaning he was even more rarely "organically" or randomly tested.

and holding the leaders jersey

these have not been counted.

 

[Page Mill Masochist]

Joe Paterno and Lance Armstrong

To imagine what will happen to Lance's legacy, read this story on the once-revered Joe Paterno. "Fake" and "fraud" are the least of it.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8124100/joe-paterno-legacy-called-further-question

 

[Deagol]

Wow, never been in a twitter fight with someone famous before...

That he feels the need to try to fight back against me is further proof of just how much of a self absorbed *** he is. He fights them all so that he doesn't have to tell the truth. Fortunately, it looks like the USADA has the truth anyway, and all of his bullying and lying will be exposed...that is if he doesn't find a way to buy or bully his way out of it.

Is there a way for non-Twitter users to see the text of this exchange?

 

[Kennf1]

Have the Armstrong camp advanced any credible theory as to why USADA would be motivated by malice against him.

They have Floyd's allegation that USADA offered him a reduced sanction in exchange for giving up dirt on Lance, which certainly may have happened, but it's funny they're relying on Floyd for anything.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Is there a way for non-Twitter users to see the text of this exchange?

I don't think so, and it would take forever to try to post it here.

 

[Jeremiah]

They have Floyd's allegation that USADA offered him a reduced sanction in exchange for giving up dirt on Lance, which certainly may have happened, but it's funny they're relying on Floyd for anything.

Why? They'll have Floyd lay it out. Armstrong will try to say Floyd's allegations are based on malice which will draw out Armstrong, and then if Armstrong commits to stupid rebuttals they will hammer him with the unassailable witnesses to corroborate.

 

[Deagol]

I don't think so, and it would take forever to try to post it here.

OK, no problem.
I did use Google to find his Twitter feed and saw that White Boy Trash (from a few years back) = TheHog. This is as I suspected.

You guys keep up the good work!

 

[Clemson Cycling]

To imagine what will happen to Lance's legacy, read this story on the once-revered Joe Paterno. "Fake" and "fraud" are the least of it.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8124100/joe-paterno-legacy-called-further-question

There is a little bit of a difference between failing a dope test in a dirty sport and enabling a pedophile

Isn't it strange that Lance never tested positive, and all these other guys who were his teammates did? Seriously though if Lance was helping his teammates dope, why didn't Lance test positive shortly after the race like others did? Doesn't make any sense really.

The only time a Lance teammate ever failed a drug test was Li Fuyu in 2010

 

[Deagol]

There is a little bit of a difference between failing a dope test in a dirty sport and enabling a pedophile

The accusations in common are that they were both corrupt and involved in cover-ups. At least Joe wasn't accused (to my knowledge) of witness intimidation.

 

[MacRoadie]

They have Floyd's allegation that USADA offered him a reduced sanction in exchange for giving up dirt on Lance, which certainly may have happened, but it's funny they're relying on Floyd for anything.

Yes, but that still doesn't answer WHY they would offer Floyd a deal, and WHY they would want "dirt" on Armstrong in the first place.

When his camp finally figures out answers to those questions (if ever), it would make for some entertaining reading.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

There is a little bit of a difference between failing a dope test in a dirty sport and enabling a pedophile


The only time a Lance teammate ever failed a drug test was Li Fuyu in 2010

Hey, did Armstrong hand you the keys to his twitter last night?

 

[Clemson Cycling]

The accusations in common are that they were both corrupt and involved in cover-ups. At least Joe wasn't accused (to my knowledge) of witness intimidation.

Whatever dude. One guy covered up using a chemical in a dirty sport. The other one said nothing and allowed a extremely sick man to fυck 10's if not 100's kids in his team's shower.

 

[Deagol]

Whatever dude. One guy covered up using a chemical in a dirty sport. .....

Dude, you are clearly not paying attention. The scope of the cover up extends to perjury (in the SCA case), probably conspiring with testers (Tour of Switzerland lab visit), officials (UCI), and witness harasment (Tyler in Aspen). This all to just get started...

No one has accused LA of anything to do with children, but the Olsen twin thing may raise some eyebrows (obviously not of the same magnitude by any stretch, but still "creepy").

You can deny it to yourself all day, but if/when the truth comes out, his legacy will suffer. This is a good thing.

 

[Kennf1]

Back on topic, Armstrong and the others have until July 9 to respond to USADA and state whether they request a hearing. Does anyone know if this is a simple one-sentence statement they provide, or will we see another 12 page letter from Luskin?