USADA - Armstrong

[The Valley]

He's actually the smartest move that he could have done, out of the limited number of options left to him - he knows that if he chooses to fight it, he'll end up with the infamous ten cyclists testifying against him, and the public will eventually get to hear all the real evidence.

By saying "I'm not going to fight it" he's avoided all of that, and he can still publicly dismiss the charges.

Of course, I said it's the smartest move he could have made, not the most honourable - which would have been to tell the truth, which he is still pathologically incapable of doing.

 

[LauraLyn]

Yes, his kids will forever be the son/daughter of the Great Fraud. He's pretty much ruined their lives before they have started. And yet he still doesn't seem to give them one thought. A repulsive man of the highest order.

Just read this: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/08-22-12 bock letter-final.pdf

Armstrong has gone beyond stupid. Even the opening statement of his desperately awaited press release was a lie: "There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now."

He really believes he can always win by cheating. And it does not matter to him how many people he cheats.

Sad does not begin to describe him.

He is no longer a player and he is no longer worth our time.

 

[No_Balls]

Ok - if usada strip lance of his tdf wins doesn't that mean the same as me saying "I strip lance of his wins"

Who actually has the authority to wipe them
From the record books - ASO? what happens if they don't agree

I dont think it would be such a smart act disagreeing at this point. Whoever has that authority needs to honour the legal outcome.

 

[Stueyy]

Does that make Jan Ullrich a 4 time TDF winner? Got to love the irony of this situation...

 

[The Valley]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/aug/24/how-lance-armstrong-strongarmed-cycling

Good article from Matt Seaton on the Armstrong saga, titled "How Lance Armstrong Strong-armed Cycling"

 

[frenchfry]

Headline in Le Monde:

Dopage : Lance Armstrong va perdre ses sept titres du Tour de France

(Doping: Lance Armstrong is going to lose his seven TDF titles)

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...pt-titres-du-tour-de-france_1750858_3242.html

This was also the lead story on the radio news this morning. It was presented like a done deal - he doped, he will be sanctioned. Little or no reference to Lancey-poos cowardly comments.

 

[pastronef]

festinagirl@festinagirl


I want them to clothe Armstrong in a yellow jersey with his 7 race numbers and then have Bassons strip them away one by one

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Headline in Le Monde:

Dopage : Lance Armstrong va perdre ses sept titres du Tour de France

(Doping: Lance Armstrong is going to lose his seven TDF titles)

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...pt-titres-du-tour-de-france_1750858_3242.html

This was also the lead story on the radio news this morning. It was presented like a done deal - he doped, he will be sanctioned. Little or no reference to Lancey-poos cowardly comments.

In DER SPIEGEL there is no love lost too. Pretty much done too in germany.

 

[frenchfry]

Maybe if USADA had offered an appearance fee he would have agreed to arbitration.

 

[Miburo]

How is this going to turn out with all the prize-money US postal gained?

T-mobile people will be very curious

 

[86TDFWinner]

Lol, ESPN had statements from both Nike & Livestrong that they're sticking by their cheater(erm, I mean man). So they're both in bed with him still. Curious to see what Trek will say, will they stick by him too? If they do, thats a.HUGE risk.they're taking, I wouldn't he's not worth it.

 

[Miburo]

Btw if ullrich didn't **** around so many times he would have been a 6-time tourwinner.

That would have been hilarious

 

[86TDFWinner]

Maybe if USADA had offered an appearance fee he would have agreed to arbitration.

Lol, he couldve used.that money to.fuel up his jet.

 

[sniper]

Headline in Le Monde:

Dopage : Lance Armstrong va perdre ses sept titres du Tour de France

(Doping: Lance Armstrong is going to lose his seven TDF titles)

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article...pt-titres-du-tour-de-france_1750858_3242.html

This was also the lead story on the radio news this morning. It was presented like a done deal - he doped, he will be sanctioned. Little or no reference to Lancey-poos cowardly comments.

Headline in Germany.

Both the Spiegel and the Sueddeutsche Zeitung have it as the opener of their frontpages.

 

[rainman]

So will Zuelle, Ullrich, Beloki and Basso get the victories now or will those years just be without a winner and bombarded with this:******???

Why should they? Armstrong was only one of arguably the entire peloton.

 

[TubularBills]

And yet, he just said he was "tired & chooses not to participate", YET he still IS "participating"by appealing anything from.this point on, even "suing" is participation. Hes such a lying, pathetic, POS. He cant even lie right. Besides, if.his lawyers are claiming the USADA doesnt have "jurisdiction" then why the hell would he agree to the ban and so forth? He and his stupid lawyers are actually pretty stupid.

Poster Boy for 'Ironman!'

"I'm tired."

 

[No_Balls]

Whats the reaction in America? Too small sport to make any headline off? Still considered a hero who everyone conspired against with evil europeans leading the witch hunt from day one?

 

[mickkk]

He has taken the only option that migh tnot lead to a jail sentence.

If he contested the charges and was found guilty, 4 years in the slammer based on other sentences. He was odds on to be found guilty. hard to be innocent with so many eye witnesses lined up outside the court.

By pleading no contest, he will probably receive a fine or suspended sentence.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Does that make Jan Ullrich a 4 time TDF winner? Got to love the irony of this situation...

It might. I know one thing, Lemond is now regarded(atleast to me & Im sure.others) as the ONLY american to win the TDF.

 

[frenchfry]

In hindsight, the attempt to go to the US justice system to dismiss the USADA procedure was a big mistake for Armstrong. It now looks ridiculous that he challenges USADA jurisdiction when a federal judge wouldn't agree with him on this issue. It also forced the UCI to (reluctently) admit USADA jurisdiction, now it will be very difficult for Armstrong and UCI to collude on a parallel action that "clears" Armstrong. His only possibility now is in the court of public opinion, and though the general public is pretty ignorant of the reality Armstrong's hold on the press is in sharp decline. One major element is how much of the evidence and witness testimony gets into the public domain. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[Le breton]

It might. I know one thing, Lemond is now regarded(atleast to me & Im sure.others) as the ONLY american to win the TDF.

ISn't hisa name LeMond?

 

[86TDFWinner]

Whats the reaction in America? Too small sport to make any headline off? Still considered a hero who everyone conspired against with evil europeans leading the witch hunt from day one?

There's quite a few Lance koolaid sippers still, who actually.STILL believe he didnt dope. Even when the witness testimony comes out nailing him, they STILL wont believe it.

There's a few fb'ers who are still.clueless.........unreal. Then again, these people still believe in the tooth fairy, the boogeyman, Santa claus & the easter bunny too. You have to consider the source though when mentioning them.

 

[the big ring]

I may be wrong but I think he may be allowed to race the age groups. I think only the "Pro" race is a WTC sanctioned race. The remaining 2800 Ironman hopefuls can dope all they want. I dont think there are any rules to the 40-45 age group

Lance racing age-group would hurt him more than admitting to doping.

 

[RichWalk]

What a coward, no surprise really, suspect its all aimed at minimum public disclosure for Lance and his enterprise............

Hollow statements which I sincerely hope signal the end for this deluded fool ; if he doesnt realise now what damage he's done to pro sport then he never will, pathetic really

 

[Paco_P]

Whats the reaction in America? Too small sport to make any headline off? Still considered a hero who everyone conspired against with evil europeans leading the witch hunt from day one?

I read some comments on some news sites. The LA fans buy the witchhunt line. With respect to them LA was shrewd - the overwhelming evidence is prevented from making its way into the public domain (at least until someone leaks it) and those who wish to delude themselves can continue to do so. It's a variant of the Pete Rose defense. On the other hand, a lot of more casual observers say something along the lines of - the scales had already begun to fall from my eyes, and this seals it.

There is growing awareness in the US that Armstrong is one of the great frauds of our era. Within the media itself this idea is fairly well implanted, because there is more awareness of what he was like as a person.