Moose McKnuckles said:But isn't Contador the most tested athlete in the world now?
Is that tested or teste-ed. Sorry. Could not resist.
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Moose McKnuckles said:But isn't Contador the most tested athlete in the world now?
delbified said:if contador was clean, then you may as well make doping legal as it doesn't have any performance enhancing effect.
Night Rider said:In my opinion, there is no evidence of an AC blood bag. There was some writings on a piece of paper and ramblings of a win on a phone tap of another rider. That was all.
Polish said:Seriously?
I would MUCH rather get Training Advice from Dr Ferrari than Dr Fuentes.
Heck, I would even choose Dr Carmichael's training advice over Dr Fuente's lol.
But then again, I do not suffer from yeast infections that often
Hugh Januss said:I think the yeast in that loaf of bread between your ears has an infection. Since when is Chris Comical a Dr. of anything other than "extract of cortisone".
Polish said:ahhh....a Training Schedule...nothing to do with PEDS....
Training Advice from a OBGYN.
Yes, humble family man Alberto needs advice from OBGYN.
Makes sense - no wonder the team was cleared
Race Radio said:What is worse, getting training advice from a Gyno or from a Hematologist like Ferrari?
icefire said:Looks like nobody's taken the time to do some research on Dr Fuentes's biography:
straydog said:RR: or from a Hematologist like Ferrari?
nor it seems on Dr. Ferrari ....who graduated in Medicine and Surgery from the University of Ferrara.
And I think the "Dr" tag added to Carmichael was meant to be ironic....oh but sorry, i have just read back and seen most of the grand wizards of the hate cult are here....I forgot....irony is not allowed...
And i have had training plans from Michele Ferrari...and they were f*cking brilliant....and weirdly he didn't even recommend me to take a recovery shake....and from Aldo Sassi (also very good and surprisinlgy similar to Ferraris)....who did.
and it is once again amusing to see how yet another thread has descended to "it's all about Lance" since the wizards decided to join it.
ok.....dragging this thread slightly back on track for a second....it seems that anyone who actually knows how to read would see that any evidential link between Contador and Puerto is mighty tenuos at the very least....hence no sanctions from any federation....but that certainly won't stop the innuendo
and just to point out....CONI do have his DNA....from his samples at the giro....which is exactly how they got Valverde.
does this mean he hasn't or doesn't dope?
I can only get two words out between trying to stop my laughing fit....f*ck ....NO!
straydog said:And i have had training plans from Michele Ferrari...and they were f*cking brilliant....
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Scott SoCal said:.... seeing as though he's the only trainer/doctor/coach/hematologist/magician that can get that little "something extra" from his clients.
straydog said:wow....you really don't know how to use google do you?
And if you want to see the training plans....go ask for one....they aren't expensive
biker jk said:We're talking about the man that climbs like the Chicken and time trials like Spartacus.
straydog said:RR: or from a Hematologist like Ferrari?
nor it seems on Dr. Ferrari ....who graduated in Medicine and Surgery from the University of Ferrara.
And I think the "Dr" tag added to Carmichael was meant to be ironic....oh but sorry, i have just read back and seen most of the grand wizards of the hate cult are here....I forgot....irony is not allowed...
And i have had training plans from Michele Ferrari...and they were f*cking brilliant....and weirdly he didn't even recommend me to take a recovery shake....and from Aldo Sassi (also very good and surprisingly similar to Ferraris)....who did.
and it is once again amusing to see how yet another thread has descended to "it's all about Lance" since the wizards decided to join it.
ok.....dragging this thread slightly back on track for a second....it seems that anyone who actually knows how to read would see that any evidential link between Contador and Puerto is mighty tenuous at the very least....hence no sanctions from any federation....but that certainly won't stop the innuendo
and just to point out....CONI do have his DNA....from his samples at the giro....which is exactly how they got Valverde.
does this mean he hasn't or doesn't dope?
I can only get two words out between trying to stop my laughing fit....f*ck ....NO!
Moose McKnuckles said:Once again, what appeared in the Fuentes file is just "AC", not Contador's name.
Was it really Contador? Perhaps. But unlike Lance, Conty has never failed a doping test.
Of course, the "never failed a doping test" standard is the red herring we all know it to be.
Dr. Maserati said:So, no (IMO) CONI will not get AC through Puerto.
But, the NAS have the samples from the Giro 08, the samples the UCI refused to test for CERA even though a test became available only months later - this investigation is ongoing, and if I were an AC supporter I would be far more worried about this than Puerto.
khardung la said:What a confussion in the thread...Like many others have pointed out:
1-Contador is in the Puerto files, in a list of cyclists of Manolo Sainz's team, not related with PEDs at all. Obviously Contador was a cyclist in that team, no big deal.
2-In the tapes they talk about Contador incidentally, while commenting racing results.
That is it. There was never any bag with the initials AC (unlike with Valverde and so many others). The document is the original released by the Guardia Civil before the OP turned to be mediatic. Guardia Civil is a highly professional police force who gives a s***it about minor things like cycling stars.
Contador was a no one in that time, authorities would not have doubt on chasing him down if they would have had something. I insist, in that time.
I don't imply at all that Contador is not a doper, probably he and a bunch of other top cyclists are dopers. BUT mixing things is really just distracting and pointless.