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So you have to win more than half of the 6 biggest one-day races to win this prize? That's frankly ridiculous in a year without a 2 time GT champion.
If winning a French race was the decider, then I can't believe why Oier Lazkano wasn't even nominated for hus great victory in Boucles de la Mayenne.
Rog's attacks were also fair, even rog's attack in the final Km of sierra de bejes when he couldn't drop ayuso or ajuso (like @Ilmaestro99 says) and Mas.
You are aware that Vingegaard didn't win last year?
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Velo d'Or has become a joke. No I'm not sad because my favourite rider lost. Danish fans can go away to their viking cerimonies of beer drinking contests and shopping mall buying. This was between Pogi and MDVP...seriously,
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I guess they took into account that Vingegaards Tour victory was arguably one of the best in recent history, winning both dominantly and against one of the toughest opponents anyone has ever had to face. Also, while this was a season with only one major win, this was about as good of a "one major win season" one can have. Two prestigious one week stage races, the biggest race in the world and a 2nd place in another GT, where you can even argue he gifted the win to his teammate. I disagree with the decision, but it's not like Vingegaard's season was comparable to something like Nibali 2014.
Still, MvdP winning 2 monuments and the WCRR and not winning Velo d'Or is just a little sad. It's very unlikely he'll never have a season this good again and I would have loved to see him rewarded with this kind of award.
Still, MvdP winning 2 monuments and the WCRR and not winning Velo d'Or is just a little sad. It's very unlikely he'll never have a season this good again and I would have loved to see him rewarded with this kind of award.
can't believe Vingegaard stole the Velo d'Or from Sepp Kuss. what an ungrateful teammate.
I think this award would be fair for vingegaard and MDVP. I feel sorry for MVDP, he would also deserve the award.
Pogacar was out of the equation for this year, not because he did a bad year, but because MDVP and vingegaard won more important races with remarkable exhibitions.
The best 2 perfomances of the year in my opinion were vingegaard's TT at the Tour de france, and van der poel's performance on the worlds championships.
Pogacar was out of the equation for this year, not because he did a bad year, but because MDVP and vingegaard won more important races with remarkable exhibitions.
The best 2 perfomances of the year in my opinion were vingegaard's TT at the Tour de france, and van der poel's performance on the worlds championships.
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I pretty much agree with all of this. I would have voted for Mathieu but I don't have a real problem with it. There were 3 (and almost 4) worthy candidates this year which was borne out by how close the voting was.
how do we gauge successful track riders thesedays though ? WCs only, Champions league thing, would the 6 day events count for instance, it seems a bit of a mixed bag fwiw.
Road Racing at least seems to have a fully defined at least 9month season with multiple top tier races, courses, to pick a "best rider of the year" style award. The other disciplines, sort of have their WCs, and a set of races but its harder to tell what level the competition is across them, and not resort to just picking whoever wins their competition outright.
I think obviously if you had a multi discipline rider doing a Marianne Vos style winning everything in one year, that would count more in the grand prize, than simply being the best CX rider or MTB rider vs the best road rider to select from.
I expected MVP to win really, Vingegaard wins the Tour, but doesnt win it without all the Jumbo Visma team help, MVP hadnt really been led around by Alpecin to take any of his wins.
I do wonder if the new Eddie Merckx Trophy clouds the issue, abit like people go well I would have voted for MVP instead of Vingegaard, but expect him to get the classics trophy instead, so it evens it out if Vingegaard wins the overall.
Though Ive not quite worked out how Kopecky won the womens Merckx Trophy yet, surely Demi Vollering won more of the classics this year ? so is it the well Demi gets the overall vote, so it "evens out" again and everyone gets a prize, well except for Tadej.
look it could be worse in kickball theyre already complaining the same guy has won it for the 8th time already, if you believe the leaks.
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the obvious point to make with that though is...so why is Jonas zoom calling in his acceptance speech ? is he not attending the launch of next years race as this years winner ? that seems a bit of a marketing fail as things go especially when youve got Hinault and Merckx to turn up to present the awards.
Vingegaard was a worthy winner if you consider him the real Vuelta winner. Otherwise Pog and MVdP in that order.
I love that Vingegaard didn’t attend though, makes him more likeable imo.
I love that Vingegaard didn’t attend though, makes him more likeable imo.
You think the Remco fan isn’t aware that Remco won last year?
I’m saying that when you have two riders who had amazing seasons don’t win, then just pick the TDF winner from now on.
For all we know, he's in the middle of moving a pretty long distance. And it's also pretty well-known that he doesn't really like these big flashy events all that much.
Would be silly to pick the TdF winner if the TdF winner hadn't also had an amazing season.
Not similar. Like Gilbert said, what more can MVDP do? He was the best at the most important races against the best at their best. Same can’t be said about Vingegaard
Well Merckx is by far the best one day rider of all time having won 19 monuments and 3 times the World Championships, so from that perspective its makes sense that this award is named after him.
I just hope that this won't be used to reward the best one day rider of every season and the Velo d'Or winner goes to the Tour winner/best stage racer...
As I wrote earlier here, this rather new prize is senseless to me.
Like mixing apples and pears and expecting uniform lemons.
I like each spectacle as it writes it's own history underway.
I don't know whether the Velo d'Or was introduced on the basis of the general dissatisfaction with the new world ranking system that replaced the one used up to the beginning of the millennium.
I didn't want to make a choice (however, my browser tells me I did, which must be a mistake), I can only agree with the fact that our sport these years has been gifted with little more than a handful of extraordinary talented riders, generous to deliver us a show almost every time.
I understand very well the strong attitudes and sympathies one can have. But the dissympathies remind me most of all not of cycling fans, but invaded by hooligans from the other d'Or.
And this one, OP?
As if there isn't enough confrontational polemics going on in this world already...
Like mixing apples and pears and expecting uniform lemons.
I like each spectacle as it writes it's own history underway.
I don't know whether the Velo d'Or was introduced on the basis of the general dissatisfaction with the new world ranking system that replaced the one used up to the beginning of the millennium.
I didn't want to make a choice (however, my browser tells me I did, which must be a mistake), I can only agree with the fact that our sport these years has been gifted with little more than a handful of extraordinary talented riders, generous to deliver us a show almost every time.
I understand very well the strong attitudes and sympathies one can have. But the dissympathies remind me most of all not of cycling fans, but invaded by hooligans from the other d'Or.
And this one, OP?
It is far below the minimum if a bar is to be set for proper debate.
As if there isn't enough confrontational polemics going on in this world already...
He probably can't do more, and that might mean he never wins velo d'or. Pogi is amazing at everything and Vingegaard is at least as amazing in GTs as mvdp is in one day races. Not saying he would not have deserved it this year.
Some statistics for the year 2023:
| Cyclist | Percent wins | |
| 1 | Tadej Pogačar | 34,69 |
| 2 | Jasper Philipsen | 28,81 |
| 3 | Primož Roglič | 23,44 |
| 4 | Jonas Vingegaard | 22,39 |
| 5 | Arnaud De Lie | 20,41 |
| 6 | Remco Evenepoel | 19,4 |
| 7 | Mathieu van der Poel | 13,04 |
| Cyclist | Points/day | |
| 1 | Tadej Pogačar | 157,06 |
| 2 | Jonas Vingegaard | 94,09 |
| 3 | Mathieu van der Poel | 90,5 |
| 4 | Wout van Aert | 88,19 |
| 5 | Primož Roglič | 87,55 |
| 6 | Remco Evenepoel | 82,79 |
| 7 | Mads Pedersen | 67,74 |
| Cyclist | Points/1000 km | |
| 1 | Tadej Pogačar | 92,71 |
| 2 | Jonas Vingegaard | 61,25 |
| 3 | Primož Roglič | 55,05 |
| 4 | Wout van Aert | 53,43 |
| 5 | Remco Evenepoel | 53,01 |
| 6 | Mathieu van der Poel | 50,5 |
| 7 | Mads Pedersen | 40,84 |
| Cyclist | Wins/1000 km | |
| 1 | Tadej Pogačar | 2,05 |
| 2 | Jasper Philipsen | 1,7 |
| 3 | Primož Roglič | 1,47 |
| 4 | Jonas Vingegaard | 1,46 |
| 5 | Remco Evenepoel | 1,24 |
| 6 | Arnaud De Lie | 1,14 |
| 7 | Mathieu van der Poel | 0,73 |
They didn't give it to Nibali in 2014. Pogacar randomly cracking doesn't make it more dominant. Only one stage win to boot too. Okay maybe it's ridiculous to compare it to Nibali but it was less dominant than Pog in 2021 IMO.
It really looks like they just said "let's pretend Vingegaard also won the Vuelta"
The best performance of the season and by some margin was Pog at De Ronde, demolishing peak MVDP on the latters own terrain. Worlds course was favouring MVDP to even greater extent and he took full advantage of it. Vingegaards TT at the Tour was astonishing, but Pogacars performance at Ronde was still something else.
I can understand them giving Velo d'Or to Vingegaard as he also had a very strong season outside of winning the Tour, but personally would have preferred either MVDP or Pog. The former for having an amazing hit rate for the major classics he contested and the latter for the greatest single performance of the year complemented by overall seaon long excellence.
Pogacar wasn't at this best due to his fall in Liege. Roglic wasn't there. Evenepoel wasn't there. Then it's "easy" to win dominantly.
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