Velo d’Or 2023

[Ilmaestro99]

Siri, show me a list of people who should never be taken seriously ever again.

which is why he lost, Sophie Smith - an Australian woman, Philippa York, Peter Michael Kasper, Thiery Kayishema Tity)

This shows how sad the state of out sport is. We have a legend who won Sanremo, Roubaix and an incredibly tough worlds in the same year. This is one of the greatest achievements of the century.

These races are the backbone of our sport. Racing in its purest form.

Only somebody who doesn't watch cycling would not include him in the top 5. Absolute Joke. Embarrassing. How can journalists have these opinions?

This is a daylight robbery.

 

[Froome]

What about the Guardian journalist who has Evenepoel at #1?

@Andre is a Guardian journalist?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

They've just given Messi another Ballon d'Or. These are awards don't mean much, It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the journos misunderstood the rules and therefore put their votes in reverse order.

 

[Andre]

@Andre is a Guardian journalist?

what did I do now? I missed the whole vote thing...hold on, I just voted Remco. Anyway, who the hell won?

 

[Berniece]

They've just given Messi another Ballon d'Or. These are awards don't mean much, It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the journos misunderstood the rules and therefore put their votes in reverse order.

Also 36 journalists doesn't seem remotely enough to get a proper distribution of votes

 

[Netserk]

yes, naturally australian people don't enjoy infamous attacker of children van der Poel

what the hell is 'Morgenavisen' and what kind of a made up name is 'Jesper Hansen'?

Common knowledge, buddy

EDIT: For non-Danes, it's the rather infamous newspaper:

 

[Andre]

I would have given it to Jude over Messi

 

[Axel Hangleck]

This shows how sad the state of out sport is. We have a legend who won Sanremo, Roubaix and an incredibly tough worlds in the same year. This is one of the greatest achievements of the century.

These races are the backbone of our sport. Racing in its purest form.

Only somebody who doesn't watch cycling would not include him in the top 5. Absolute Joke. Embarrassing. How can journalists have these opinions?

Exactly; None of those races are that 3 week race in July......More Tour-centric journalists. Too many of the choices were just lazy voting.....

 

[awavey]

Why does it claim Orla is a freelancer too ? Surely her role is tv host presenter, as she herself puts in her social media bios.

I only noticed it because 3 out of 4 who didn't have MvP in their top 5 were freelancers !? Does MvP only give interviews to accredited press ?

 

[Elos Anjos]

Maybe Messi could win Velo d'Or one day.

View: https://youtu.be/zwJFsjKZ360?si=7vz4nd6B_CgUD24O

 

[buddy buddy buddy]

Why does it claim Orla is a freelancer too ? Surely her role is tv host presenter, as she herself puts in her social media bios.

I only noticed it because 3 out of 4 who didn't have MvP in their top 5 were freelancers !? Does MvP only give interviews to accredited press ?

yes it's a conspiracy + also women and rwandans don't understand cycling

just imagine if children had been allowed to vote, van der poel would have scored minus one billion points

 

[Tim Cahill]

Genuinely think MvdP belting that Australian child last year might've cost him.

To me it only enhances his legend.

 

[scribers]

If journalists can’t get it right I don’t know what to do Maybe licensed cyclists should vote for it

 

[Elos Anjos]

What about that Pipa York...? She is an ex-male rider that now writes "chronicles" or whatever that is for CN. How could she ignore MVDP?

 

[Peter von]

They've just given Messi another Ballon d'Or. These are awards don't mean much, It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the journos misunderstood the rules and therefore put their votes in reverse order.

with Ballon d'Or there are defo a bunch of voters who just get the lasts call e-mail and just votes what they did last year or at least doesn't spend much time considering what happened in the year, but only goes by highlights like a WC.

 

[rallybanana]

Interesting that both Slovene judges voted #1 for Pogacar and the Dutch judges voted #1 for MvdP. But the Danish judges only voted #2 for Vingegaard!

 

[houtdffan]

The way people voted has been released.

• 16 out of 36 journalists put MVDP at #1
• 8 out of 36 journalists put Vingo at #1
• 34 out of 36 journalists put Vingo in their top 3
• 4 out of 36 journalists didn't include MVDP in their list (which is why he lost, Sophie Smith - an Australian woman, Philippa York, Peter Michael Kasper, Thiery Kayishema Tity)

Some of those voter should not be allowed to breed

Someone had Remco as #1? Others had him ahead of Pog and Vingegaard? Not including Remco at all in the top 5?

An example that crack kills brain cells

 

[scribers]

I'm good with Vingo winning the award. But you can see how the brains work for some of the folks voting, and there is definitely something wrong with the selection process

 

[ManicJack]

I'm good with Vingo winning the award. But you can see how the brains work for some of the folks voting, and there is definitely something wrong with the selection process

Completely off topic, but scribers, what is your avatar and isn't there, or wasn't there another member with the same one?

 

[scribers]

I have a twin brother. This avatar features my disco vibe. I prefer for you to read my posts in disco beat cadence

 

[Izzyeviel]

I was thinking of this earlier. Jasper has had a great season. MvDP is just as expected. But then again the results don't quite tell the whole story for MvDP, he did a great job as a lead out man for Jasper at the tour. I suppose they felt a leadout man shouldn't win. Jokes aside, he can feel very hard done by.

Roglic, Jonas, Pogacar, are going to be on everyones list. Which leaves 2 from 3, Jasper, MvDP, Remco. World champs aside, MvDP had a quiet second half of the season results wise & did fewer race days than the others. I can see how someone might pick the other two.

 

[Blanco]

I was thinking of this earlier. Jasper has had a great season. MvDP is just as expected. But then again the results don't quite tell the whole story for MvDP, he did a great job as a lead out man for Jasper at the tour. I suppose they felt a leadout man shouldn't win. Jokes aside, he can feel very hard done by.

Roglic, Jonas, Pogacar, are going to be on everyones list. Which leaves 2 from 3, Jasper, MvDP, Remco. World champs aside, MvDP had a quiet second half of the season results wise & did fewer race days than the others. I can see how someone might pick the other two.

So the winner of 2 monuments and the worlds is on 6th place of your list of the best riders of the year?!
I fail to see how is he even 2nd!

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I was thinking of this earlier. Jasper has had a great season. MvDP is just as expected. But then again the results don't quite tell the whole story for MvDP, he did a great job as a lead out man for Jasper at the tour. I suppose they felt a leadout man shouldn't win. Jokes aside, he can feel very hard done by.

Roglic, Jonas, Pogacar, are going to be on everyones list. Which leaves 2 from 3, Jasper, MvDP, Remco. World champs aside, MvDP had a quiet second half of the season results wise & did fewer race days than the others. I can see how someone might pick the other two.

@mods . please ban

 

[rallybanana]

I have a twin brother. This avatar features my disco vibe. I prefer for you to read my posts in disco beat cadence

Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah

 

[Keldergoat]

I was thinking of this earlier. Jasper has had a great season. MvDP is just as expected. But then again the results don't quite tell the whole story for MvDP, he did a great job as a lead out man for Jasper at the tour. I suppose they felt a leadout man shouldn't win. Jokes aside, he can feel very hard done by.

Roglic, Jonas, Pogacar, are going to be on everyones list. Which leaves 2 from 3, Jasper, MvDP, Remco. World champs aside, MvDP had a quiet second half of the season results wise & did fewer race days than the others. I can see how someone might pick the other two.

MvdP 'just as expected'? What were your expectations a year ago? He came out of a bad fall season where he got incarcerated by the Australian police and didn't ride anything special apart from winning Wallonie, followed by a mediocre winter season: his back problems were constantly ruining his CX competitiveness versus a very strong WvA. We were openly discussing if WvA didn't just outplay him before the WC in Hoogerheide. I don't really see how winning 4 out of your 5 main goals in the season isn't beyond expectation.

Philipsen had a marvellous season, by far the best sprinter, but in order to be on par with MvdP he should've at least won a monument. Evenepoel doesn't even come close, not that he had a bad season, I loved his riding, but for him to be a contender he should've podiumed one GC.