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rumor is they improved on his Giro ITT bike, but I have no confirmation at this time.webbie146 said:He's got a new Specialized ITT bike?
rumor is they improved on his Giro ITT bike, but I have no confirmation at this time.webbie146 said:He's got a new Specialized ITT bike?
As much as I hope Horner will make history and we do need some good news here this year, he will crack on a stage on either MTF or a medium climbing stage.Vino attacks everyone said:Want to see a real fight between Nibbles and old man Horner in the third week. Will be Nibalis first real test against a great climber![]()
I am surprised someone here still reads his nonsense comment?il_cobra said:it's funny to reading airstream's yesterday posts now.
there he at?![]()
Hmm that would be pretty zweetmaxmartin said:rumor is they improved on his Giro ITT bike, but I have no confirmation at this time.![]()
Considering the GT results Valverde and Purito are already behind Nibs. So what the hell are you talking about?webvan said:"one of the most successful GT riders of his generation" ? Based on the Vuelta where he (barely) beat Mosquera and a Purito who'd never gone for GC before and the Giro where a fading Evans finished 3rd? Nibs is an exciting racer but certainly not among the best GT riders we've seen over the past 20 years. I doubt he'd be ahead of Purito or Valverde at this point if they had not raced the TDF.
I think the 3 primaries (Nibali, Valverde and Purito) and to lesser extent Basso, are playing it smart by choosing who to mark. They don't see Horner as big a threat as each other. In Valverde and Purito's part they have to measure their efforts and by deciding who is the biggest threat and who isn't they saving energy for difficult 2 weeks ahead. Were they to attempt to chase downwebvan said:75% ? Hum...where did we hear that before revently? Nibali is not beating a Horner in that kind of shape, this isn't the weak Giro field.
That's dependent upon where you draw the line that separates these generation of which you speak. Surely Contador is curiously being overlooked by you. Nibali would be a distant second.Pippo_San said:Considering the GT results Valverde and Purito are already behind Nibs. So what the hell are you talking about?
Facts, please.
Actually regarding his specific generation, he's already the most successful GT rider.
So you do consider Valverde, Purito or Basso, or even Menchov part of the same generation of Nibs? That's ridiculous at best, especially considering the career of these riders, the bans and whatever.webvan said:Facts? How about looking up the DOB of the riders you mention or is it "generation" you need to look up? Ah, I see you misunderstood my previous message, ahead=ahead in the current Vuelta of course.
Anyway, the point remains that Nibali is an exciting rider but hyped as a GT great, i.e. he can win when the better riders of the day are DNS.
I think Nibali deserves more respect than you're willing to give him. I don't think he's one of the greats but you have to accept that his style of racing and his ability to be competitive in such a wide range of events creates a passionate following.webvan said:Of course not, hence my previous message, but you don't seem to be reading posts properly today (see "ahead") so I'll leave you at it. In any case I'll stick to my story that Nibali is hyped as a GT rider and won't win any GTs with in-form Wiggins/Contador/Froome/"future true GT greats" participating.
Well I certainly don't include Wiggins in any catagory remotely akin to a GT great. Contador, yes without a doubt a GT great and in a class above Nibs, just on raw talent alone never mind palmares. Froome has all the potential to be better than Nibs but right now is still behind on palmares. Time will tell with him.webvan said:Of course not, hence my previous message, but you don't seem to be reading posts properly today (see "ahead") so I'll leave you at it. In any case I'll stick to my story that Nibali is hyped as a GT rider and won't win any GTs with in-form Wiggins/Contador/Froome/"future true GT greats" participating.
LMAO, not GT great yet won more GT than any current riders except AC/IB. And you are the one claiming on the facts side.webvan said:Sounds like we're saying the same thing, an exciting and pretty unique rider, but not a GT great. There's always a risk of the important stuff getting lost in the posts when you're trying to fend off some dude who thinks Nibali is the best thing since slided bread and skims over posts to keep hammering that fact.
+ 1 on all scores with a "also run second for Purito" who is battling for the title with PoulidorCarols said:Well I certainly don't include Wiggins in any catagory remotely akin to a GT great. Contador, yes without a doubt a GT great and in a class above Nibs, just on raw talent alone never mind palmares. Froome has all the potential to be better than Nibs but right now is still behind on palmares. Time will tell with him.
So of the current generation it's Contador, Nibs, Froome. (They are all 28-30 years old) with Condator's star falling, Nibs' star rising and Froome with a rocket up his ****.
edit: doesn't like b utt LOL.