Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[jens_attacks]

what a boring of ascent that was until nibali took off. gotta love him for this.
i hope he drops them on every mountain

 

[alin.constantin89]

http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2014/...i-my-goal-was-to-gain-time-over-valverde.html

Nibali "...I beat Froome and Contador at almost all the races I did with them..."

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2014/...i-my-goal-was-to-gain-time-over-valverde.html

Nibali "...I beat Froome and Contador at almost all the races I did with them..."

He beat Froome at 1 race, and Contador was in very bad form.

 

[Rollthedice]

http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2014/...i-my-goal-was-to-gain-time-over-valverde.html

Nibali "...I beat Froome and Contador at almost all the races I did with them..."

You forgot to add: Last year, which is true.

 

[alin.constantin89]

You forgot to add: Last year, which is true.

Can you give me the races of which he's talking about, please ? I know Tirreno-Adriatico sure.

 

[maxmartin]

http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2014/...i-my-goal-was-to-gain-time-over-valverde.html

Nibali "...I beat Froome and Contador at almost all the races I did with them..."

Thanks. Haha looks like he is still interested in Giro Tour double. Presumably next year Giro should have a weaker field than this year.

Majka's victory here after he finished 6th in the Giro makes me think that it's possible to do both Grand Tours. I did them both when I was young but now I'm physically much more mature. My challenge for next year might well be to target Giro and Tour but I yet have to talk to my team. When we finish a season, we restart from scratch. It's not excluded that I'll be present at both Giro and Tour next year.

 

[Hayabusa]

The only races I can remember that Nibali beat Froome at last year would be Tirreno and the World Champs. Froome beat him at Oman, am I missing any?

Given the split between Giro-Vuelta and Tour plans they had, they didn't really cross paths.

 

[VeloHuman]

Nobody can beat Nibali on the climbs but there is rain and wind on the menu for Stage 15. Maybe someone can force a split?

 

[maxmartin]

Nobody can beat Nibali on the climbs but there is rain and wind on the menu for Stage 15. Maybe someone can force a split?

rain and wind , a split YES but NIblles will in the front group

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Nobody can beat Nibali on the climbs but there is rain and wind on the menu for Stage 15. Maybe someone can force a split?

More likely that Nibali will cause it himself than someone like Pinot will do it

BMC might be dangerous though

 

[LaFlorecita]

The only races I can remember that Nibali beat Froome at last year would be Tirreno and the World Champs. Froome beat him at Oman, am I missing any?

Given the split between Giro-Vuelta and Tour plans they had, they didn't really cross paths.

Contador and Nibali raced San Luis, Oman and Tirreno together. In San Luis and Oman, Contador finished higher. In Tirreno, Nibali was better.

Froome and Nibali raced Oman and Tirreno together. Froome won Oman, Nibali Tirreno.

So not sure what Nibali is on about.

 

[icefire]

http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2014/...i-my-goal-was-to-gain-time-over-valverde.html

Nibali "...I beat Froome and Contador at almost all the races I did with them..."

He didn't cross ways with them in GTs last year, so he must be talking about Giro '11, Vuelta '11 and Tour '12

 

[bambino]

Contador and Nibali raced San Luis, Oman and Tirreno together. In San Luis and Oman, Contador finished higher. In Tirreno, Nibali was better.

Froome and Nibali raced Oman and Tirreno together. Froome won Oman, Nibali Tirreno.

So not sure what Nibali is on about.

Worlds in Tuscany?

 

[whittashau]

My god, the lack of intelligence is these responses is astonishing. He was asked a question about whether he could have beaten AC and CF, and his response was that he beat both Froome and Contador in races last year. Which is true. How would you expect him to respond?

 

[maxmartin]

My god, the lack of intelligence is these responses is astonishing. He was asked a question about whether he could have beaten AC and CF, and his response was that he beat both Froome and Contador in races last year. Which is true. How would you expect him to respond?

haha especially the response from ICEFIRE

 

[LaFlorecita]

Worlds in Tuscany?

Stage races, since we're talking about a stage race (TDF) here.

Besides, Contador was a domestique for the worlds.

 

[LaFlorecita]

My god, the lack of intelligence is these responses is astonishing. He was asked a question about whether he could have beaten AC and CF, and his response was that he beat both Froome and Contador in races last year. Which is true. How would you expect him to respond?

But he makes up things to justify his smack talking... surely he knows he only beat Contador and Froome at Tirreno?

 

[whittashau]

Stage races, since we're talking about a stage race (TDF) here.

Besides, Contador was a domestique for the worlds.

My previous response wasn't aimed at you, but my point remains. He was asked a question, and he answered it. He clearly wasn't differentiating stage racers or GTs. The quote shouldn't be blown out of proportion.

 

[bambino]

Stage races, since we're talking about a stage race (TDF) here.

Besides, Contador was a domestique for the worlds.

Yeah you do. Though I don't see Nibs talking only stage races, do you? At the end you claim you don't get what he is talking about by publishing your list, which apparently seems to be true.

 

[Rollthedice]

As usual, words taken out of context. Here's what CN quoted (Nibali speaks Italian so I am personally not 100% that this is what he said):

"Last year, I won virtually all the races I rode, where there were often also Alberto Contador and Chris Froome. The only race I didn't ride was the Tour. This year, I've come to the Tour with great form and so I don't think anything is cheapened. I've had a great season in 2013, winning the Giro d'Italia and finishing second at the Vuelta, I don't think I'm any lesser of a rider than Contador and Froome.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

But he makes up things to justify his smack talking... surely he knows he only beat Contador and Froome at Tirreno?

He has been asked the same questions about him, AC and Froome for months now. No wonder that he would try to remind people that he has beaten them before. How/when/where is not that important

 

[maxmartin]

Stage races, since we're talking about a stage race (TDF) here.

Besides, Contador was a domestique for the worlds.

not sure english translation is accurate, but there is no where in the article mentioning stage races. It is only your assumption he is referring to stage races. And you do assume a lot of things.

 

[whittashau]

Smack talking? Come on Flo - go read the article on the cyclingnews front page. He clearly was getting berated by journalists about this being a cheapened Tour and tried to defend himself.

 

[ILovecycling]

Im glad Nibali is still on the offensive,he tries,that good.

After hours of thinking I invented the much anticipated new name for Nibali,no more lo squalo (at least for his non-fans) but from this Tour, Il Felice

 

[LaFlorecita]

not sure english translation is accurate, but there is no where in the article mentioning stage races. It is only your assumption he is referring to stage races. And you do assume a lot of things.

I don't care what you think.