Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Netserk]

He let himself go too much after the Giro. And IMO he had not enough races to build up his form. He had to rush into form after he was shockingly slow in Tour of Poland. Not ideal.
But he underestimated Horner when he let him go in the first mountain stage. That day he probably would have arrived with Horner and not lost 46 seconds. He thought Horner would not go far, playing games with Rodriguez, Valverde and Basso.
Had Nibali been in front with 3 sec instead of 3 sec behind before Angliru he might have won - he was on par with Horner that day or at least not clearly inferior (imo) and had to attack him. Burned himself with those 5-6 attacks. The seconds he lost on that easy climb ( 5,5 % average, not more than 7-8 km long, don't remember the name) a couple of days before were crucial.

I always thought he should hang on to Horner on the Angliru and attack with 800 m to go because Horner is a diesel, not explosive. Take 4-5 seconds and win.

He had a great form coming out of the Vuelta, unlucky in the WC and Lombardia, could have won both --> my first argument : too short on preparation, his form came 1-2 weeks too late

After Nibali attacked the chasing group he didn't take any time on Horner, so no he wouldn't have ended with the same time as Horner in any scenario.

 

[Rollthedice]

After Nibali attacked the chasing group he didn't take any time on Horner, so no he wouldn't have ended with the same time as Horner in any scenario.

When Horner accelerated 4.5 km to go, none of Nibali, Purito, Valverde, Basso and I think Pinot tried to cover his attack. Nobody gave a rat's *** about Papi at that time in the race. They went together for another 2.5 K when Nibali attacked the group but it was too late, given his form compared to Horner's, to gain some time back. Surprisingly enough for everybody in the cycling world, Horner kept his form throughout the whole three weeks.

 

[Netserk]

When Horner accelerated 4.5 km to go, none of Nibali, Purito, Valverde, Basso and I think Pinot tried to cover his attack. Nobody gave a rat's *** about Papi at that time in the race. They went together for another 2.5 K when Nibali attacked the group but it was too late, given his form compared to Horner's, to gain some time back. Surprisingly enough for everybody in the cycling world, Horner kept his form throughout the whole three weeks.

And if Nibali had been as strong as Horner, he would've taken some time back when he left the other group. He didn't.

 

[Rollthedice]

And if Nibali had been as strong as Horner, he would've taken some time back when he left the other group. He didn't.

Nobody was as strong as Horner. Froome didn't take part.

 

[Carols]

'He is at his best in this moment, and I believe he can maintain that level for a few years. He is very professional,” Martinelli said.'

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/martinelli-says-nibali-just-getting-starting_342576

 

[maxmartin]

THE CURRENT KING OF ROAD CYCLING

 

[hfer07]

"I can’t climb at 500 watts. I was going at 430 watts and that guy accelerated. What could I do?”
That's what Nibali said after Pena Carbarga.

Nibali wasn't counting on "papy's anomaly" - I mean- he did what he could - but we & and he knew WTF took place there.....that's the game so..

 

[SafeBet]

Is it true he's not racing anything before the WC?

 

[Pentacycle]

Is it true he's not racing anything before the WC?

No, he rides il Trittico Lombardo

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Slongo is quite clear on that Nibbles wont be in his tour shapw in the WC. I don't think Italy will be albe to make the race hard enough anyways so for me it seems more likely that it will be a Matthews vs Bouhanni vs perhaps Kristoff than anything else....

 

[Netserk]

Slongo is quite clear on that Nibbles wont be in his tour shapw in the WC. I don't think Italy will be albe to make the race hard enough anyways so for me it seems more likely that it will be a Matthews vs Bouhanni vs perhaps Kristoff than anything else....

Hopefully that means that Nibali will attack before the last lap

 

[ILovecycling]

Hopefully that means that Nibali will attack before the last lap

yep, I loved his MSR attack!

 

[LaFlorecita]

yep, I loved his MSR attack!

Hopefully if he fails he won't complain about the lack of riders with balls in the peloton again.

 

[Netserk]

Hopefully if he fails he won't complain about the lack of riders with balls in the peloton again.

Yeah we saw in MSR how the attackers benefited a lot from waiting....

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yeah we saw in MSR how the attackers benefited a lot from waiting....

No need for sarcasm. I am on your side. Just don't like complaining.

 

[Pippo_San]

No need for sarcasm. I am on your side. Just don't like complaining.

Is stating the truth and being a bit politically scorrect "complaining"?

 

[Afrank]

Hopefully if he fails he won't complain about the lack of riders with balls in the peloton again.

Well...he was right. Nibali may complain every now and then, but at least he's correct in that complaining most times.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I personally don't find "complaining" to be solely a bad thing. Ofc, if you are going to do it every god damn time you ride up a hard mountain, bad roads or in bad weather (Hi Cancellara ) it might be somewhat annoying, but just pointing out that most riders have to attack to win, and therefore them not attacking is stupid doesn't seem so stupid/annoying/wrong to me.

Only my take on it though

 

[cineteq]

Haters are now complaining about Nibali's 'complaining'. Go figure.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

‏@vincenzonibali
Compagnia d'eccellenza oggi!! @ivanbasso @ivansantino @DiegoUlissi pic.twitter.com/ja4cZKywhw

Nibbles out training with Ulissi
And Basso!

 

[maxmartin]

So Nibali is going to try to win Giro di Lombardia ? Wondering how much weight he has put on since Tour?

 

[nuvolablu]

So Nibali is going to try to win Giro di Lombardia ? Wondering how much weight he has put on since Tour?

It's not going to Giro di Lombardia. Instead he'll race the ******* Tour of Almaty

 

[May0maniac]

‏@vincenzonibali
Compagnia d'eccellenza oggi!! @ivanbasso @ivansantino @DiegoUlissi pic.twitter.com/ja4cZKywhw

Nibbles out training with Ulissi
And Basso!

A bunch of really cool guys, well and Santaromita
Seeing Nibali and Basso together always makes me remember the good old days...

 

[BeagRigh]

‏@vincenzonibali
Compagnia d'eccellenza oggi!! @ivanbasso @ivansantino @DiegoUlissi pic.twitter.com/ja4cZKywhw

Nibbles out training with Ulissi
And Basso!

Worlds training? They think/hope Ulissi will be cleared?

 

[maxmartin]

It's not going to Giro di Lombardia. Instead he'll race the ******* Tour of Almaty

wait, he is not going to do Giro di Lombardia? The revised the route suits him. Unbelievable!