Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[LaFlorecita]

Yes that is true, I'm not very creative (true story).

Can you come up with a decent alternative?

Design the entire logo with red, pink and yellow. White is boring. Color is nice.

 

[Red Rick]

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He won the Vuelta in 2 different colors

 

[LaFlorecita]

He won the Vuelta in 2 different colors

the color that symbolizes la Vuelta is red now. Golden looks like a dog poop brown anyway

 

[bicifan]

Nibali: "I honestly don't think I'll do the Giro d'Italia. I said I'd do the Giro if I have to, but if I ride it, I want to ride it to win it. At Astana we've also got Fabio Aru, who is more suited to the Giro d'Italia than the Tour de France. And so if I ride the Giro, I'd overshadow him. So the team wants Aru to ride the Giro and I ride the Tour. I understand that choice"

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/exclusive-interview-vincenzo-nibali

 

[May0maniac]

Nibali: "I honestly don't think I'll do the Giro d'Italia. I said I'd do the Giro if I have to, but if I ride it, I want to ride it to win it. At Astana we've also got Fabio Aru, who is more suited to the Giro d'Italia than the Tour de France. And so if I ride the Giro, I'd overshadow him. So the team wants Aru to ride the Giro and I ride the Tour. I understand that choice"

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/exclusive-interview-vincenzo-nibali

I fail to understand why the Giro would be better suited to Aru with the nearly 60km ITT. In the end this is what the team wants, they want their biggest name at the TDF to defend his title in peak condition.

 

[Afrank]

Nibali: "I honestly don't think I'll do the Giro d'Italia. I said I'd do the Giro if I have to, but if I ride it, I want to ride it to win it. At Astana we've also got Fabio Aru, who is more suited to the Giro d'Italia than the Tour de France. And so if I ride the Giro, I'd overshadow him. So the team wants Aru to ride the Giro and I ride the Tour. I understand that choice"

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/exclusive-interview-vincenzo-nibali

Boooo! Respect that he wants to give Aru the chance to lead though. That's nice of him.

 

[Afrank]

I fail to understand why the Giro would be better suited to Aru with the nearly 60km ITT. In the end this is what the team wants, they want their biggest name at the TDF to defend his title in peak condition.

He said Giro would be better for him than the Tour would be. And he's right, Aru has a better chance of a high GC and/or stage wins at the Giro then he would have at the Tour. Especially if Froome ends up doing the Tour instead.

Aru will be at that level one day to contend for a Tour win, but he's not there yet.

 

[Jspear]

He said Giro would be better for him than the Tour would be. And he's right, Aru has a better chance of a high GC and/or stage wins at the Giro then he would have at the Tour. Especially if Froome ends up doing the Tour instead.

Aru will be at that level one day to contend for a Tour win, but he's not there yet.

The way Nibbes worded his statement, "the Giro is more suited to Aru," makes it hard to tell what he meant exactly.

If Nibali meant that the competition @ the Giro was more suited to Aru because of who is riding (The Tour will have more of the "big favs"), then he is correct.

But, if he meant that the Giro is more suited to Aru in terms of the parcours, then he is wrong.

 

[May0maniac]

The way Nibbes worded his statement, "the Giro is more suited to Aru," makes it hard to tell what he meant exactly.

If Nibali meant that the competition @ the Giro was more suited to Aru because of who is riding (The Tour will have more of the "big favs"), then he is correct.

But, if he meant that the Giro is more suited to Aru in terms of the parcours, then he is wrong.

1 or 2 weeks ago La Gazzetta reported that the team wants Aru to ride the Giro as their leader and the Tour as a superdomestique for Nibali.

 

[ferryman]

The way Nibbes worded his statement, "the Giro is more suited to Aru," makes it hard to tell what he meant exactly.

If Nibali meant that the competition @ the Giro was more suited to Aru because of who is riding (The Tour will have more of the "big favs"), then he is correct.

But, if he meant that the Giro is more suited to Aru in terms of the parcours, then he is wrong.

I think you are just about correct in your analysis. I don't think Nibali was being mean in any way or regards towards Aru, if I may expand on Nibali's behalf, perhaps he meant "the Giro is more suited to Aru at this stage in his career,",

Dunno, but looking forward to hearing his thoughts on Contador and Quintana tomorrow...

 

[maxmartin]

Wonderful news, no serious Tour contenders will make the suicidal decision to race the Giro.

 

[Dr. Juice]

Wonderful news, no serious Tour contenders will make the suicidal decision to race the Giro.

So Contador is not a serious Tour contender?

 

[Afrank]

I think you are just about correct in your analysis. I don't think Nibali was being mean in any way or regards towards Aru, if I may expand on Nibali's behalf, perhaps he meant "the Giro is more suited to Aru at this stage in his career,",

Dunno, but looking forward to hearing his thoughts on Contador and Quintana tomorrow...

That's how I read it.

 

[BlurryVII]

Wonderful news, no serious Tour contenders will make the suicidal decision to race the Giro.

It sure was suicidal for Nibali to race the Giro.
How bad would it be for his reputation to get beaten by +4 mins on his home race again? Then go onto the Tour with the same superior rival ? No point really.

 

[thehook]

IMHO....Nibs is a great rider. And probably the most consistent GT rider of the past few years. His statement about Aru going for the Giro. Is no insult. It (Giro) is a great race for upcoming GT riders to sharpen there teeth. And gain a GT in there legs for future battles. Aru has many seasons to improve. And can be a Tour contender. Time is on his side.

With that being said. If Nibs focuses on Tour. And rides Giro. But gets spanked by AC. Even if he is there to work for Aru. He looks real bad in the Italian media. So Giro for him has no upside for him worth the risk.

 

[sir fly]

So Contador is not a serious Tour contender?

No, not really.
He hasn't podiumed for five years and will have Giro in his legs.
Top 10 maybe. Top 20 certainly if manages to stay upright.

 

[Angliru]

No, not really.
He hasn't podiumed for five years and will have Giro in his legs.
Top 10 maybe. Top 20 certainly if manages to stay upright.

So it's your belief that he must be on a serious decline performance wise for you to say that his making the top 10 is a maybe?

 

[BlurryVII]

So it's your belief that he must be on a serious decline performance wise for you to say that his making the top 10 is a maybe?

Don't feed the troll

 

[Angliru]

Wonderful news, no serious Tour contenders will make the suicidal decision to race the Giro.

No "lol" at the end of your post today?

 

[Angliru]

Don't feed the troll

Just trying to get a reasonable understanding of a post that doesn't exactly make sense to me.

 

[cineteq]

He [Contador] hasn't podiumed for five years and will have Giro in his legs. Top 10 maybe. Top 20 certainly if manages to stay upright.

It's reasonable. He's aging, and we've seen it happened to Purito too.

 

[sir fly]

It's reasonable. He's aging, and we've seen it happened to Purito too.

Absolutely. Looks like he accepted the reality and decided to concentrate on the lesser GT. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Absolutely. Looks like he accepted the reality and decided to concentrate on the lesser GT. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

No, he's concentrating on both the best and second best GT, and wants to try to win them both

 

[Jspear]

Absolutely. Looks like he accepted the reality and decided to concentrate on the lesser GT. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Actually what AC is doing is giving himself something that is more of a challenge. The double - that is his goal.

As for Nibbes (this is his thread): something else that could be interesting later down the road.

From his CN interview: " He can always ask me for advice when he wants. He might not ask but the truth is that we've never really raced together this year but I've never really had any serious problems with him. And I don't think he's had any problems with me. Of course, racing is racing, we're in the same team but we've tried to get on. I think that'll continue while we're in the same team."

It will be interesting to see how their relationship is in 2015.

 

[cineteq]

From his CN interview: "He can always ask me for advice when he wants. He might not ask but the truth is that we've never really raced together this year but I've never really had any serious problems with him. And I don't think he's had any problems with me. Of course, racing is racing, we're in the same team but we've tried to get on. I think that'll continue while we're in the same team."

Translation: There is a problem, not serious though. They don't seem to get along. I wonder If Nibali thinks Aru doesn't deserve to be a GT leader just yet...