Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[LaFlorecita]

I never expected him to do the Giro. Froome was also talking about the Giro.

Sure maybe Nibali thought I can win an easy Giro so why not. Then Contador decided to ride it and he figured he might as well go all out on the TdF again.
But honestly I never really thought he would ride the Giro this year. Just like I knew Froome wouldn't, even when he wanted too.

They are restricted by their sponsors and Contador isn't, well he is, but Tinkof is a special breed.

Yes I agree. But it's funny to say Nibali is a chicken

 

[Kwibus]

Yes I agree. But it's funny to say Nibali is a chicken

Heh, but if you troll here then don't complain about trolling in the Contador thread

 

[LaFlorecita]

Heh, but if you troll here then don't complain about trolling in the Contador thread

pffff it's not trolling

 

[Kwibus]

pffff it's not trolling

There is thin line between fooling around and trolling on the internet.

 

[Miburo]

The Giro is the Giro, it's special for me and for the Italian fans. It's a race I've won and want to win again. I've got to go back sometime, even if it could be more logical in 2016

Why is it more logical to do it then?

It's ok to run away, just admit it. Every sane person would avoid a guy who crushed you during your entire career

 

[Netserk]

Why is it more logical to do it then?

It's ok to run away, just admit it. Every sane person would avoid a guy who crushed you during your entire career

Because he won't have to defend a Tour win in 2016. Duh.

 

[Red Rick]

Still think this would be the year for him to try and go for the Giro-Tour combo. Defending the Tour is gonna be super hard anyway, and he'll never get a chance to ride the Giro as TdF champ and Italian champ again

 

[cineteq]

So the Contador fanboys and girs decided to sabotage Nibali's thread because they can't justify Contador riding by himself the Giro. This is entertaining.

 

[cineteq]

VELOVOICES AWARDS 2014: RACE OF THE YEAR

Midge: "Tour de France stage five over the cobbles of Paris-Roubaix. I was giddy with anticipation and excitement, mixed with a large dose of trepidation when I saw the weather. All sorts of images flash through my head now. Froome’s untimely exit, Alberto’s face, a ravaged peloton of wide-eyed, mud-strewn riders. Lars Boom took a fantastic win, but my abiding memory is of Nibali, Westra and Fuglsang mastering the pavé with aplomb, and putting two minutes into their main rivals"

Guess which race is winnig the poll at the end of the comments?

http://velovoices.com/2014/11/26/velovoices-awards-2014-race-of-the-year/

 

[Red Rick]

So the Contador fanboys and girs decided to sabotage Nibali's thread because they can't justify Contador riding by himself the Giro. This is entertaining.

Who are you referring to?

VELOVOICES AWARDS 2014: RACE OF THE YEAR

Midge: "Tour de France stage five over the cobbles of Paris-Roubaix. I was giddy with anticipation and excitement, mixed with a large dose of trepidation when I saw the weather. All sorts of images flash through my head now. Froome’s untimely exit, Alberto’s face, a ravaged peloton of wide-eyed, mud-strewn riders. Lars Boom took a fantastic win, but my abiding memory is of Nibali, Westra and Fuglsang mastering the pavé with aplomb, and putting two minutes into their main rivals"

Guess which race is winnig the poll at the end of the comments?

http://velovoices.com/2014/11/26/velovoices-awards-2014-race-of-the-year/

The only other nominated race that wasn't bad or standard was the RvV. Still it's only one stage

 

[LaFlorecita]

VELOVOICES AWARDS 2014: RACE OF THE YEAR

Midge: "Tour de France stage five over the cobbles of Paris-Roubaix. I was giddy with anticipation and excitement, mixed with a large dose of trepidation when I saw the weather. All sorts of images flash through my head now. Froome’s untimely exit, Alberto’s face, a ravaged peloton of wide-eyed, mud-strewn riders. Lars Boom took a fantastic win, but my abiding memory is of Nibali, Westra and Fuglsang mastering the pavé with aplomb, and putting two minutes into their main rivals"

Guess which race is winnig the poll at the end of the comments?

http://velovoices.com/2014/11/26/velovoices-awards-2014-race-of-the-year/

Guess which rider is winning the poll for rider of the year on the same site? Kwiatkowski, with 80+%

 

[LaFlorecita]

Who are you referring to?


The only other nominated race that wasn't bad or standard was the RvV. Still it's only one stage

Exactly. Bad nominations.

 

[cineteq]

Guess which rider is winning the poll for rider of the year on the same site? Kwiatkowski, with 80+%

Not Contador either? On the other hand, you said the the races are bad nominations. Your comments are so hilarious, keep them coming

 

[bicifan]

Voted for stage 5 too

VELOVOICES AWARDS 2014: RACE OF THE YEAR

Midge: "Tour de France stage five over the cobbles of Paris-Roubaix. I was giddy with anticipation and excitement, mixed with a large dose of trepidation when I saw the weather. All sorts of images flash through my head now. Froome’s untimely exit, Alberto’s face, a ravaged peloton of wide-eyed, mud-strewn riders. Lars Boom took a fantastic win, but my abiding memory is of Nibali, Westra and Fuglsang mastering the pavé with aplomb, and putting two minutes into their main rivals"

Guess which race is winnig the poll at the end of the comments?

http://velovoices.com/2014/11/26/velovoices-awards-2014-race-of-the-year/

 

[LaFlorecita]

Not Contador either? On the other hand, you said the the races are bad nominations. Your comments are so hilarious, keep them coming

What is wrong with you?

 

[Jspear]

VELOVOICES AWARDS 2014: RACE OF THE YEAR

Midge: "Tour de France stage five over the cobbles of Paris-Roubaix. I was giddy with anticipation and excitement, mixed with a large dose of trepidation when I saw the weather. All sorts of images flash through my head now. Froome’s untimely exit, Alberto’s face, a ravaged peloton of wide-eyed, mud-strewn riders. Lars Boom took a fantastic win, but my abiding memory is of Nibali, Westra and Fuglsang mastering the pavé with aplomb, and putting two minutes into their main rivals"

Guess which race is winnig the poll at the end of the comments?

http://velovoices.com/2014/11/26/velovoices-awards-2014-race-of-the-year/

That's not to surprising...it's the Tour de France. Plenty of people will vote for it regardless of the action it brought - they'll vote for it because it's the biggest race (unfortunately) of the year. Stage 5 of this years Tour was one of the best stages of this year (I'd stick it in the top 5), but the Tour as a whole was lackluster.

 

[Red Rick]

Not Contador either? On the other hand, you said the the races are bad nominations. Your comments are so hilarious, keep them coming

Honestly, apart from the RvV, the others are horrendous nominations for race of the year. Of course the TdF stage 5 is the best of the nominated ones.

Where's Tirreno stage 5
Where's Dauphine's stage 8
There are many others

 

[Miburo]

Because he won't have to defend a Tour win in 2016. Duh.

He never defended his previous titles, all excuses. We all know the truth.

Oh he did the vuelta 2011, in my defence he was barely present in that race. That's what happens when you think you can rival Contador in the giro, nibali learned his lesson though

 

[pigoonse]

Exactly. Bad nominations.

Your retorts like this one often disappoints me, LaFlo. You know i think you are an amazing Contador supporter and appreciate all the links you post. Also you are a knowledgeable cycling fan from all i read of you; but your anti-nibs constant degrading and resentment kills me - all i can do is shake my head - it is after all your opinion. that is all i have to say about the subject

 

[LaFlorecita]

Your retorts like this one often disappoints me, LaFlo. You know i think you are an amazing Contador supporter and appreciate all the links you post. Also you are a knowledgeable cycling fan from all i read of you; but your anti-nibs constant degrading and resentment kills me - all i can do is shake my head - it is after all your opinion. that is all i have to say about the subject

Of course Tour stage 5 is a good nomination. However, several good ones are missing - like Dauphiné stage 8, Tirreno stage 5. Which is why I wrote "bad nominations". What was so special about Vuelta stage 16? Contador's win in Tirreno was a gazillion times more impressive. Don't think everything I post is anti-Nibali. I don't think stage 5 was the best race day this year, and I think it is overrated - people call it "legendary" - but I realize some people like it. IMO the Tirreno stage and the Dauphiné stage were much more exciting.

 

[pigoonse]

Of course Tour stage 5 is a good nomination. However, several good ones are missing - like Dauphiné stage 8, Tirreno stage 5. Which is why I wrote "bad nominations". What was so special about Vuelta stage 16? Contador's win in Tirreno was a gazillion times more impressive. Don't think everything I post is anti-Nibali. I don't think stage 5 was the best race day this year, and I think it is overrated - people call it "legendary" - but I realize some people like it. IMO the Tirreno stage and the Dauphiné stage were much more exciting.

That is fair enough LaFlo. But your opinions stated as above do not hurt at all! how could they? I could give examples of the types of posts that do, but that is really pointless.

It is also pointless to reply to Miboro and others who continue to forward the nonsense of Nibali not riding the Giro because he is chicken. I can't believe people are that blind to actually believe such b s. Have to guess they are more continually posting it to be provocative...aka troll.

As I think I posted in this thread before - Nibali's not riding the Giro is discussed here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-dismisses-the-idea-of-leaving-astana-due-to-doping-cases

it is ridiculous to think Nibali is scared of Contador. Nibali is a professional, a proud, top athlete and champion. These pro's need the competition and to test themselves against the best. Nibs did not fade away from the opportunity to test himself or the possibility of getting his *** kicked last july at the start line of 2014 and if not for team politics and Aru, he certainly would be up for the Giro-Tour challenge.

 

[Red Rick]

Lol, don't see anything really negative in Flo's posts here, but it seems people are just looking for arguments in this thread too

Regarding Nibali being scared. I dunno. I don't think it's ridiculous. Maybe having pride means you want to avoid a high risk Giro vs Contador where you risk getting your *** kicked by the guy who would've challenged you in the Tour you won last year, on home soil, as Italian champ. You can only be afraid if you've got something to lose, and in this Giro, Nibali would have an insane lot to lose. I think riding the Tour instead is sensible, the Tour is bigger, he's defending champ, and maybe its more acceptable to loose when you're facing all the big guns. He certainly may have planned to do the Giro if Contador hadn't gone there, racking up a pretty easy win against the likes of Uran, basically doing the same as Contador will probably be doing. Now, riding the Tour might be less risky for his chance of winning a GT and it is certainly less risky for his legacy.

It is not necessarily being afraid, but I think he realises he has a lot to loose than the last time he tried to beat Contador in the Giro

 

[Kwibus]

That is fair enough LaFlo. But your opinions stated as above do not hurt at all! how could they? I could give examples of the types of posts that do, but that is really pointless.

It is also pointless to reply to Miboro and others who continue to forward the nonsense of Nibali not riding the Giro because he is chicken. I can't believe people are that blind to actually believe such b s. Have to guess they are more continually posting it to be provocative...aka troll.

As I think I posted in this thread before - Nibali's not riding the Giro is discussed here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-dismisses-the-idea-of-leaving-astana-due-to-doping-cases

it is ridiculous to think Nibali is scared of Contador. Nibali is a professional, a proud, top athlete and champion. These pro's need the competition and to test themselves against the best. Nibs did not fade away from the opportunity to test himself or the possibility of getting his *** kicked last july at the start line of 2014 and if not for team politics and Aru, he certainly would be up for the Giro-Tour challenge.

Pigoonse and I really think the same about a lot of things.

Also about the attitude of some. Too much provocation and not enough explanation(about a blunt statement) in many posts which derail so many threads in mud throwing.

 

[Jspear]

Of course Tour stage 5 is a good nomination. However, several good ones are missing - like Dauphiné stage 8, Tirreno stage 5. Which is why I wrote "bad nominations". What was so special about Vuelta stage 16? Contador's win in Tirreno was a gazillion times more impressive. Don't think everything I post is anti-Nibali. I don't think stage 5 was the best race day this year, and I think it is overrated - people call it "legendary" - but I realize some people like it. IMO the Tirreno stage and the Dauphiné stage were much more exciting.

In the grand scheme of things, looking at cycling through the years - maybe stage 5 wasn't legendary, but on the flip side we shouldn't dismiss how great of a stage it was. The weather was bad, and VN in yellow rode away from nearly all the cobble specialist to add to his lead. Of course I disagree with some here as to what the final GC would have been if AC finished the Tour, but I think that is a different discussion. Stage 5 was one of the best stages this year. Imagine if AC had done it.....you would agree that it a as epic. Doesn't really matter who the rider was....what happened that day was pretty impressive.

 

[LaFlorecita]

In the grand scheme of things, looking at cycling through the years - maybe stage 5 wasn't legendary, but on the flip side we shouldn't dismiss how great of a stage it was. The weather was bad, and VN in yellow rode away from nearly all the cobble specialist to add to his lead. Of course I disagree with some here as to what the final GC would have been if AC finished the Tour, but I think that is a different discussion. Stage 5 was one of the best stages this year. Imagine if AC had done it.....you would agree that it a as epic. Doesn't really matter who the rider was....what happened that day was pretty impressive.

Exactly, but not the best. And yes, of course I would think it was epic if it had been AC on the front, but it wasn't, he failed big time, so it leaves a very bad taste. But it still would not have been "legendary" (although it would have been a huge surprise, because Alberto sucks in the rain and on the cobbles, unlike Nibali. What happened was super predictable, that's why I think it was not nearly as exciting as stage 5 of Tirreno-Adriatico and stage 8 of the Dauphiné)