Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[roundabout]

Speaking of myths, there is absolutely zero evidence that his puncture cost him as much time as you are suggesting,

 

[Forever The Best]

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Speaking of myths, there is absolutely zero evidence that his puncture cost him as much time as you are suggesting,

He probably took it easy after reaching the Contador group when he realized he wasn't gonna get the podium.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Yeah that Tour stage of 2015 is an underrated win. Solo from 50km out and climb La Toussuire faster than anyone else except for Froome and Quintana.

And I think that's an underrated quality. He can attack a penultimate climb without slowing down too much on the last climb.

Actually he went with around 62 km to the finish.

 

[Red Rick]

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Yeah that Tour stage of 2015 is an underrated win. Solo from 50km out and climb La Toussuire faster than anyone else except for Froome and Quintana.

And I think that's an underrated quality. He can attack a penultimate climb without slowing down too much on the last climb.

Actually he went with around 62 km to the finish.

Yeah I was too lazy to check.

 

[skippo12]

Just read: No GC-ambitions for Dauphine...will go stage hunting.

I think most of us expected it and considering the delayed Tour start this year it is the right decision.

 

[Red Rick]

It boggles my mind every year how there's only 6 days between the end of the Giro and the start of the Dauphine

 

[skippo12]

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It boggles my mind every year how there's only 6 days between the end of the Giro and the start of the Dauphine

Especially this year with a delayed Tour start. One week more can make a huge difference.

 

[Sestriere]

I think it's a good decision for him to race Dauphiné and Adriatica Ionica before the Tour. A whole month without racing (except on day at the NC) wouldn't be good for him. In the past few years he was rather underraced in the beginning of a Grand Tour than being to exhausted in the end. He seems to need quite a bit of racing to hit top shape.

 

[Gigs_98]

Yeah, I think this is a logical decision too. Only the dauphine was already very little in the past and resulted in a bad early shape in 2015. Now that the tour is even further away from the dauphine, this as his final prep race would most certainly not be enough. Also, as Nibali usually gets better in the 2nd half of a gt I can't see him fading in the third week despite an additional prep race. The only question is whether he pays for these added racing days in fall when he goes for the WC

 

[May0maniac]

Yeah, I think this is a logical decision too. Only the dauphine was already very little in the past and resulted in a bad early shape in 2015. Now that the tour is even further away from the dauphine, this as his final prep race would most certainly not be enough. Also, as Nibali usually gets better in the 2nd half of a gt I can't see him fading in the third week despite an additional prep race. The only question is whether he pays for these added racing days in fall when he goes for the WC

This year he had no altitude training camp until after the Ardennes classics, I guess that he and Slongo made their calsulations and with him only riding the Vuelta as a prep race for WC and Lombardia it shouldn't be a huge problem.
if the weather is nice I'll try to be on the finish line of the Giau MTF of the Adriatica Ionica race.

 

[Rollthedice]

I am not so sure if he'll be at Adriatica Ionica. Dauphine finishes on the 10th, Adriatica is 20-24. Before the Tour he will go for a final training camp on San Pellegrino like every year so when will that fit?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I am not so sure if he'll be at Adriatica Ionica. Dauphine finishes on the 10th, Adriatica is 20-24. Before the Tour he will go for a final training camp on San Pellegrino like every year so when will that fit?

10 days before, 10 days after!

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah, I think this is a logical decision too. Only the dauphine was already very little in the past and resulted in a bad early shape in 2015. Now that the tour is even further away from the dauphine, this as his final prep race would most certainly not be enough. Also, as Nibali usually gets better in the 2nd half of a gt I can't see him fading in the third week despite an additional prep race. The only question is whether he pays for these added racing days in fall when he goes for the WC

2015 was more the crash on stage 6 or something than anything else. He was pretty solid in the prologue and on the Mur. He was also by far the most agressive on the cobbles but that stage simply wasn't hard enough.

 

[hazaran]

You mean 2015 where he was dropped by Froome on the cobbles? lol

https://youtu.be/2W6oN4AUYGY?t=1h52m58s

Yeah he was lucky it wasn't hard, he would have lost time.

 

[Climbing]

Go troll somewhere else, and buy a couple of glasses.
Plus refresh your memory how to ride cobbles... :lol:

 

[EroicaStradeBianche]

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You mean 2015 where he was dropped by Froome on the cobbles? lol

https://youtu.be/2W6oN4AUYGY?t=1h52m58s

Yeah he was lucky it wasn't hard, he would have lost time.

"Dropped"

 

[Nirvana]

Just read: No GC-ambitions for Dauphine...will go stage hunting.

I think most of us expected it and considering the delayed Tour start this year it is the right decision.

His declarations on the team website ahead of Dauphine are different.

“I have not run the Critérium for a few years and I am happy to come back. I have just finished 2 weeks training camp in Teide and the race will help me to see at what point of the programme I am in sight of the Tour de France. I would like to do well in some stages, maybe that of La Rosiere that I will face again in July, and get a good position in the general classification“.

 

[Climbing]

It has been known for a while, though team composition for the TdF is pretty much confirmed (unless some of the riders have problems along the way):

 

[Rollthedice]

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I am not so sure if he'll be at Adriatica Ionica. Dauphine finishes on the 10th, Adriatica is 20-24. Before the Tour he will go for a final training camp on San Pellegrino like every year so when will that fit?

10 days before, 10 days after!

From 13 to 24 June training altitude San Pellegrino, the usual before Le Tour, June 30 Italian Championships. Apparently he was testing sprints with Sonny on Teide for the road race in Boario Terme.

 

[RedheadDane]

Just read: No GC-ambitions for Dauphine...will go stage hunting.

I think most of us expected it and considering the delayed Tour start this year it is the right decision.

His declarations on the team website ahead of Dauphine are different.

“I have not run the Critérium for a few years and I am happy to come back. I have just finished 2 weeks training camp in Teide and the race will help me to see at what point of the programme I am in sight of the Tour de France. I would like to do well in some stages, maybe that of La Rosiere that I will face again in July, and get a good position in the general classification“.

As we saw last year; winning a couple of stages can be a pretty good way to win the overall.
Though, I dunno how the team stacks up in the TTT

 

[Tonton]

Vai Vincenzo Nibali! There are trap stages, do a '14 again.

 

[Scarponi]

Plenty of time between the Dauphine and the Tour to practice the explosive attacks of Contador and Froome like 2014 :lol:

 

[Red Rick]

Slower than Bardet on a TT bike.

It's time to worry.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Not really, Nibali kinda did what was expected, Bardet was extraordinary, relatively speaking..

 

[rick james]

Time to worry after one very short TT?