Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Eshnar]

Good morning.i'm a new member.excuse me for my english language..
I saw Nibali in the climb of Montasio.i was at 3 km to go.
Nibali seemed quiet and not at max.
So i think that only the weather and could can stop the shark in this Giro.

Welcome!
Another Italian to reinforce our faction?

 

[Michele]

Nibali is amazing, he´s completely fulfilling expectations.

The 1984 born Nibali and 1985 born Froome might be the top GT men for the next years.

Plus, Nibali will remain contender for San Remo, Liege and Lombardia.

Nibali is someone every team can be proud of having him in its roster. He is unbelieveably complete, physically, and also has the almost 100% perfect mental approach and skills. Not one single really weak point. Though I hate this fanboyism (that´s something for dumb soccer fans, and cycling is a noble sports), I hope he wins this Giro.

I dont completely agree as until last year he used to ride on his own into some crazy attacks which are very nice for us tv vieweres/fans, but not ever very productive.
This year he somewhat looked more confident and more smart into using his team before getting personally into action.
Plus he ever used to have 1 or 2 bad days, and Im genuiely curious to see how he will handle these 3 weeks, if he has improved on this as well.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Plus he ever used to have 1 or 2 bad days, and Im genuiely curious to see how he will handle these 3 weeks, if he has improved on this as well.

Same for me. This Giro is far from over, and I only believe he´s won it when it´s done, but I wish he succeeds. Then he can completely focus on his victory attempt in TdF, certainly 2014.

I have the feeling he also learns to reduce his "jours sans" to the minimum, and if he has one, he is able to limit losses.

Also, just as you said, aggressiveness within the race seems to be more controlled. Outside the race, which still makes most of the hours of the day and season, ofc, he´s unique, anyways. Even more professional than a Wiggins, Froome, and so on, especially PR behaviour.

I´m quite glad for him also that Vinokourov seems to do a good job as manager. He remains invisible and silent, which is important, as Vino is so controversial. An outspoken and ever visible Vinokourow would mean additional pressure on Nibali, so it´s good that Vino stays in background.

 

[webbie146]

Not only we the Nibali fans think he will take the win


Dr.Ferrari: "Nibali improved uphill and in TT compared with last seasons.
As I wrote recently, he is my first choice to win the Giro 2013."

and: " shows progress in his climbing (VAM = 1700m/h on the climb of Sega di Ala) and confirms as a solid rider, complete and suitable for all racing tactics."

Impressive VAM

 

[Parrulo]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62090

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.

He says he would like that to happen at the Vuelta which means Nibali is planning to go for GC there as well, and if not it would happen at the tour next year.

 

[Miburo]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62090

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.

He says he would like that to happen at the Vuelta which means Nibali is planning to go for GC there as well, and if not it would happen at the tour next year.

Fool.

Didn't he say last year during the tour that there's only 1 guy he knows he can't beat and that's Contador? It was something like that.

Obviously knowing how meh Contador was the past few months...

Btw i bet nibali said something similar before the giro 2011

I would like to see the battle though. If Nibali improves a bit and Contador really declined a bit it should be quite a spectacle.

Fuente de stuff each day

Damn they would really kill each other every day. Would be amazing. Put at least a little hill at the last 20 km of each stage and game's on

 

[Carols]

IMO Nibali has progressed year by year and has now reached his best to date. It has been a normally seen progression; no sudden jumps, small increments year by year.

Doesn't mean he can't continue to improve, especially in flat power TT, patience, tactics and managing weak days.

Indeed he has turned himself into a complete rider capable in all facets of the sport who can also be a classics contender. Parcours heavily weighted with flat TT would still be a large challenge for him right now.

I think his defeating first Froome and then Wiggo in the pre races has boosted his confidence and on home soil with parcours and weather that suit him he feels tranqillo and in control.

Facing an on form Contador; well that is territory to be explored yet! Something for us to look forward to

 

[pastronef]

found on italian journalist twitter

"come si puo lasciare a casa brajkovic,seeldrayer,iglinsky e fugslang?? un errore imperdonabile, l'astana è oggettivamente debole"

how can you leave home brajkovic, seeldrayers, iglinsky and fuglsang? astana is weak"


I think Jani and Fuglsang are home because their goal is the Tour and the other 2 will be their domestiques

There have also been critics about Kangert, going full gas on the TT instead of saving energy for the team.

 

[King Boonen]

Only thing that can stop Nibali is a bad day or Cadel getting back to '11 tour form.

Next two weeks will be interesting.

 

[Carols]

Only thing that can stop Nibali is a bad day or Cadel getting back to '11 tour form.

Next two weeks will be interesting.

Or illness or a crash

 

[The Hitch]

Yes Nibs has matured, both as rider and in interviews. His presentation skills and regard for competitors show he is past the youthful brashness.

I don't think so. I think he's always been top class in interviews

 

[The Principal Sheep]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62090

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.

He says he would like that to happen at the Vuelta which means Nibali is planning to go for GC there as well, and if not it would happen at the tour next year.

Does this remain true even if he does not win Giro this year?

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62090

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.

He says he would like that to happen at the Vuelta which means Nibali is planning to go for GC there as well, and if not it would happen at the tour next year.

I've been saying since last year Nibali will win the vuelta

 

[RHRH19861986]

Kangert was really impressive in ITT, and I also wondered - not only he was so fast, but also why he went full gas. Team classification? Rather not...

And Seeldrayers? Don´t know if he´d have been that much a help. Sayar, Edet, Bagot outclimbed him in Turkey... He´s not better than e.g. Vanotti. Astana´s time is not weak in this Giro.

 

[Parrulo]

found on italian journalist twitter

"come si puo lasciare a casa brajkovic,seeldrayer,iglinsky e fugslang?? un errore imperdonabile, l'astana è oggettivamente debole"

how can you leave home brajkovic, seeldrayers, iglinsky and fuglsang? astana is weak"


I think Jani and Fuglsang are home because their goal is the Tour and the other 2 will be their domestiques

There have also been critics about Kangert, going full gas on the TT instead of saving energy for the team.

Fuglsang is selfish, clearly only thinks about himself. It will be interesting to see his excuse when he doesn't even top 10 in the tour.

Brajkovic was supposed to ride the giro but got sick after Romandie or something like that. I have read here, i think it was Ryo, saying that it was most likely an excuse by him so he could ride the tour for himself.

 

[icefire]

I've been saying since last year Nibali will win the vuelta

Eveyone thought the same after the ITT in the vuelta 2011

 

[Netserk]

Eveyone thought the same after the ITT in the vuelta 2011

And he very likely would have if not for a crash/sub perfect form.

 

[Carols]

I don't think so. I think he's always been top class in interviews

Okay I'll take your word for it as most are in Italian and I can't read them.

I was referring to what IMO was some smack talk before le Tour last year, maybe it didn't get a good translation to English.

 

[Eshnar]

Okay I'll take your word for it as most are in Italian and I can't read them.

I was referring to what IMO was some smack talk before le Tour last year, maybe it didn't get a good translation to English.

"One wet day in the mountains and the Tour is over for Wiggins"
He was absolutely true

 

[Carols]

"One wet day in the mountains and the Tour is over for Wiggins"
He was absolutely true

Shame it didn't Rain

 

[Afrank]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62090

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.

He says he would like that to happen at the Vuelta which means Nibali is planning to go for GC there as well, and if not it would happen at the tour next year.

Nibali-Contador battle will be a good one. Nibali I think has improved a lot this year. Maybe not to 2011 Contador levels, but enough I think that he could prove himself to be a good challenger for Contador.

 

[King Boonen]

Or illness or a crash

Don't jinx him!!

I want to see a great battle and the best cyclist win. I think that's probably Nibali.

 

[Netserk]

Nibali-Contador battle will be a good one. Nibali I think has improved a lot this year. Maybe not to 2011 Contador levels, but enough I think that he could prove himself to be a good challenger for Contador.

Well Contador is also not near his 2011 level atm.

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62090

Asked who is stronger between him and Contador, Nibali says he doesn't know but would like to measure his strengths against him.

He says he would like that to happen at the Vuelta which means Nibali is planning to go for GC there as well, and if not it would happen at the tour next year.

Of course he would like it to happen at the Vuelta, because he would be in much better shape

 

[LaFlorecita]

Nibali will never reach Alberto's best level but Alberto will never reach it anymore either so it's a pointless discussion.