Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

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Yeah, 230km long, with a flat part, then the Monticino climb and Cima Gallisterna (the final climb of the WC circuit) before 4 laps on the Imola WC circuit.
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/428415?sid=00b5e3326a667685388233a4e08e7692

About Nibali, I fear that him rushing back to rushing the Giro and being involved in multiple crashes (he never directly hit the deck himself, but was hit by other riders who where coming from behind in both his crashes during the Giro) but still wanting to finish the Giro pretty much ruined the chance of him being in good shape for the WC.
He crashed once by himself in the stage when he also had a mechanical, I posted here a picture with him and the equipment is torn on his right side if I remember. He had to finish the Giro, unfortunately the questionable shape from the beginning degraded towards the end.

After he broke his wrist, as much as he wanted to be different, everything went downhill. Not sure what can be done for the Olympics, the idea to skip the Tour and prepare a fall resurgence seems a good one.

About next team, rumors still point to Astana in pole position.
 
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Now that Sagan is off the table (supposedly) I think a Nibali move to QS is more likely. He doesn't bring that many people with him (hello, Antonio... or bye? :oops:) and I'm sure his salary can be negotiated in a way that is satisfactory to both parties.

Before that happens though I think this thread should get ready for the possibility that he won't be racing at the Tokyo games. The memes are dead before even having a chance at being born.
 
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Now that Sagan is off the table (supposedly) I think a Nibali move to QS is more likely. He doesn't bring that many people with him (hello, Antonio... or bye? :oops:) and I'm sure his salary can be negotiated in a way that is satisfactory to both parties.

Before that happens though I think this thread should get ready for the possibility that he won't be racing at the Tokyo games. The memes are dead before even having a chance at being born.
The Bag is dead, long live the bag?
Sidenote, golden bags are trashy as *** anyway. Even Federer looked trashy with them
 
Today the nationals in Italy, a hot day on the same circuit as last year's World Champs. Nibali about Tokyo:

"I've always been part of the extended team of 6-7 riders that Cassani follows. I do a program and I'm 90% sure it works. One because I've done it, two because of my experience, three because it's done in a correct way to arrive at my best for that day".

"Some riders at the Giro went very strong, but the experience of a World Cup or an Olympics changes the performance, totally, just on a mental level. The pressure can destroy you. I don't want to say I'm better, but a trained rider knows how to handle it better."

"With Cassani I talked, even in the last days. The conversation between the manager and the athlete is very personal and it is right that it remains so."
 
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Today the nationals in Italy, a hot day on the same circuit as last year's World Champs. Nibali about Tokyo:

"I've always been part of the extended team of 6-7 riders that Cassani follows. I do a program and I'm 90% sure it works. One because I've done it, two because of my experience, three because it's done in a correct way to arrive at my best for that day".

"Some riders at the Giro went very strong, but the experience of a World Cup or an Olympics changes the performance, totally, just on a mental level. The pressure can destroy you. I don't want to say I'm better, but a trained rider knows how to handle it better."

"With Cassani I talked, even in the last days. The conversation between the manager and the athlete is very personal and it is right that it remains so."

"And in the end of the day, if you are not convinced yet, I can show everybody my trophy cabinet."
 
Today the nationals in Italy, a hot day on the same circuit as last year's World Champs. Nibali about Tokyo:

"I've always been part of the extended team of 6-7 riders that Cassani follows. I do a program and I'm 90% sure it works. One because I've done it, two because of my experience, three because it's done in a correct way to arrive at my best for that day".

"Some riders at the Giro went very strong, but the experience of a World Cup or an Olympics changes the performance, totally, just on a mental level. The pressure can destroy you. I don't want to say I'm better, but a trained rider knows how to handle it better."

"With Cassani I talked, even in the last days. The conversation between the manager and the athlete is very personal and it is right that it remains so."
He sounds like he thinks he's entitled to it, his manager recently also gave an interview how Nibali deserves to be at the Olympics. Not a great look, imo.
 
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He sounds like he thinks he's entitled to it, his manager recently also gave an interview how Nibali deserves to be at the Olympics. Not a great look, imo.
I love Nibali and have respect for his career, but at this point, what will he do in Tokyo? Win a medal? No. Work for others? No. He would take a place of most likely Formolo who is at least someone who wants to work.
 
I love Nibali and have respect for his career, but at this point, what will he do in Tokyo? Win a medal? No. Work for others? No. He would take a place of most likely Formolo who is at least someone who wants to work.
This, I really like Nibali9 , but just giving him a spot on the team because he's Nibali would be wrong. 2 years ago Formolo finished 2nd in lbl, 1 year ago 2nd in Strade Bianche and this year he was the one who set a pace that cracked Roglic before Pogi made his move in lbl. He also didn't race at all between msr and lbl this year, so he should still have something left in the tank after riding the Giro-Tour double (and he'll be a domestique at the Tour).
Trusting an older guy because of his glorious past instead of a younger one is just such an Italian thing to do.
 
He sounds like he thinks he's entitled to it, his manager recently also gave an interview how Nibali deserves to be at the Olympics. Not a great look, imo.
Caruso said the same but it doesn't matter if Nibali is not competitive and that is what he is trying to prove maybe today and certainly during the Tour. If the legs "from better times" are gone for good then there's no point in visiting Japan. He knows it and Cassani knows it.
 
He sounds like he thinks he's entitled to it, his manager recently also gave an interview how Nibali deserves to be at the Olympics. Not a great look, imo.
He IS entitled to it IMO! He rode the Giro with a broken wrist so his results may appear meager but his heart, grit, experience and past results should give him a slot. He has never been afraid to work for the team if he can't take the win.
 
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