Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[TANK91]

Maybe they're hopeless, at least they're exciting. This GT doesn't really do any credit to Nibali's most agressive stage racer title.

I was thinking that, last year people said it was boring in the TDF when they were in Yellow what about Nibali in pink and Astana pulling him up the mountain, its the same think aint it.

 

[Panda Claws]

I believe it is still too early to have Quintana up there, simply because he has not ridden a GT as a leader yet. (I know he will be up there in the future)

 

[TANK91]

Porte in CI was pretty insane though. Ok maybe not the biggest names although van garderen (but ok i don't think he's that good honestly) but the way he flied past these riders was insane.

And i wonder if Porte was still at this peak then. And he also had the same time on the col d'eze as Wiggins last year.

I think Porte had a chance to defeat Nibali in this giro. For sure a bigger chance than evans and uran

No way mate he wont beat Nibali YET, I can see why your saying that though because the Giro probably does suit Porte more than it did Wiggo, and I agree I said it then Porte's attack in CI after Froome was up the road was pretty violent weren't it lol, went past Mollema like he was standing still. Porte shown in Pais Vasco that he is good on all terrain I know he dint win the ITT but look who won it a climbing beast Quintana lol, so it was not a Porte ITT.

 

[Miburo]

No way mate he wont beat Nibali YET, I can see why your saying that though because the Giro probably does suit Porte more than it did Wiggo, and I agree I said it then Porte's attack in CI after Froome was up the road was pretty violent weren't it lol, went past Mollema like he was standing still. Porte shown in Pais Vasco that he is good on all terrain I know he dint win the ITT but look who won it a climbing beast Quintana lol, so it was not a Porte ITT.

Martin won the ITT

 

[Miburo]

No way mate he wont beat Nibali YET, I can see why your saying that though because the Giro probably does suit Porte more than it did Wiggo, and I agree I said it then Porte's attack in CI after Froome was up the road was pretty violent weren't it lol, went past Mollema like he was standing still. Porte shown in Pais Vasco that he is good on all terrain I know he dint win the ITT but look who won it a climbing beast Quintana lol, so it was not a Porte ITT.

Martin won the ITT

 

[TANK91]

I believe it is still too early to have Quintana up there, simply because he has not ridden a GT as a leader yet. (I know he will be up there in the future)

I can see Quintana winning the Vuelta this year if Movistar actually let him target it. Its perfect for him but I guess he will be towing Valverde who as usual will fail at the Tour.

 

[TANK91]

Martin won the ITT

Yes your write did Quintan come 2nd, it was still a good ITT though for technicians.

 

[Cramps]

epic pictures of stage 15

Thanks for that, inspiring!

 

[The Hitch]

The only people that could possible challenge Nibbels that aint in the giro atm (or were in the giro but retired):
AC - Would probably beat him (don't know about his tt form though)
Froome - Would probably beat him
Valverde - Would challegne him, but I don't think he would have matched Nibalis tt, and he is not exactly a guy who would take minutes out of Nibali in the high mountians
Quintana - a real dark horse. Perhaps he could climb with AC and Froome, perhaps not. Perhaps he could tt like he did in Basque, perhpas not.
VDB2 - Scary
Kash - his team mate, wouldn't destoy him on purpose, but who knows

He would at worst be nr 4 this giro if Quintana is as good as we perhaps expect him to be, and ha doesnt loose time in the first week, wich would not be to unlikely.

At best he could fight for victory, like he allways do

You conveniently left out some names fanboy

Joaquim Rodriguez
Andy schleck
Jose rujano
argiro ospina
Felix Cardenas
Janier acavedo
Simon Bolivar
Jorge eliecer Gaitan
Ernesto samper pizano (has visa troubles though so you won't see him)
Carlos lleras restrepo
speedy Gonzalez.
Colombus Colombiano
Venezualez venozolano


To name a few.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

You conveniently left out some names fanboy

Joaquim Rodriguez
Andy schleck
Jose rujano
argiro ospina
Felix Cardenas
Janier acavedo
Simon Bolivar
Jorge eliecer Gaitan
Ernesto samper pizano (has visa troubles though so you won't see him)
Carlos lleras restrepo
speedy Gonzalez.
Colombus Colombiano
Venezualez venozolano


To name a few.

Very nice.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

You conveniently left out some names fanboy

Joaquim Rodriguez
Andy schleck
Jose rujano
argiro ospina
Felix Cardenas
Janier acavedo
Simon Bolivar
Jorge eliecer Gaitan
Carlos lleras restrepo
Alfonso Lopez pumarejo
Rafael Reyes
speedy Gonzalez.
Colombus Colombiano
Venezualez venozolano


To name a few.

You got me, how did I not remember Simon Bolivar? I allways thought that he wasted to much time on revolutions and not training properly.

Think JRod had his chance last year, but yea forgot him in my list, and Andy ofc should also be there.
Rujanos potensial is so good that I havent even noticed him the last couple of years

 

[Parrulo]

Correct me if i am wrong, but shouldn't a top GT rider be able to endure all types of weather and all types of stages?

Nibali did, some others didn't and dropped out, deal with it.

Also why should Nibali attack if he is in the lead? Do you want to blame someone for bad racing? Blame the likes of Evans and Uran for not doing anything as clearly the astana train is everything but strong enough to suffocate everyone like the sky train was at last years tour. If astana is pushing a tempo that over 20 riders can follow like yesterday on the galibier, i am fairly sure the second and third overall are still fresh enough to attack if they want.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You conveniently left out some names fanboy

Joaquim Rodriguez
Andy schleck
Jose rujano
argiro ospina
Felix Cardenas
Janier acavedo
Simon Bolivar
Jorge eliecer Gaitan
Ernesto samper pizano (has visa troubles though so you won't see him)
Carlos lleras restrepo
speedy Gonzalez.
Colombus Colombiano
Venezualez venozolano


To name a few.

Lol well done

 

[Netserk]

And remember that Nibali did attack Saturday.

 

[Carols]

And remember that Nibali did attack Saturday.

They discard that as it doesn't fit their agenda. Dropping his 2 rivals that remain standing by 30 seconds in 1.8kms means nothing.

They also forget that he fell 2xs and still gained on Wiggins, that his team is weak and Nibali can be isolated at any time, that he rode a great TT (for him), and has conquered the weather, all comers and brought down Sky (for the 3rd time this year!). But hey he's only 2nd rate you know.

Where the heck is Sky anyway? Astana is there for the taking.

Yesterday he raced conservatively but that is what happens when you're in the lead and there is still a week of racing to go in brutal weather against a headwind.

 

[TANK91]

Correct me if i am wrong, but shouldn't a top GT rider be able to endure all types of weather and all types of stages?

Nibali did, some others didn't and dropped out, deal with it.

Also why should Nibali attack if he is in the lead? Do you want to blame someone for bad racing? Blame the likes of Evans and Uran for not doing anything as clearly the astana train is everything but strong enough to suffocate everyone like the sky train was at last years tour. If astana is pushing a tempo that over 20 riders can follow like yesterday on the galibier, i am fairly sure the second and third overall are still fresh enough to attack if they want.

Did you think that in the TDF last year.

 

[Parrulo]

Did you think that in the TDF last year.

Yes, it was Nibali's duty to attack last year and he surely did, even if it wasn't successful.

Anyway at the TDF last year i was more bothered with the fact that sky could easily drop everyone bar the top 4 non sky climbers in the race and still have 4 of their riders in the group then with whom was going to attack

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Yes, it was Nibali's duty to attack last year and he surely did, even if it wasn't successful.

Anyway at the TDF last year i was more bothered with the fact that sky could easily drop everyone bar the top 4 non sky climbers in the race and still have 4 of their riders in the group then with whom was going to attack

I must have missed that in last year's Tour.

Nibali has been brilliant throughout though and fully deserves to be where he is, it's hardly his fault that Wiggins and Hesjedal effectively didn't turn up, does anyone think either could have beaten him anyway?

 

[Ripper]

If that Tour had this Giro's field and conditions he'd have won it... would he then have complained about the limited possibilities and the TT mileage? Nibali's racing style fits wherever the competition is weak. Food for thought and endless discussion.

Wow, you've got your head in the sand.

'Nuff said.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I don't know..maybe the 2 contador fangirls who started this whole nibali convo can't stand the fact that somebody can be better than contador..first it was schleck then onto sky and now Nibali?

 

[Miburo]

I must have missed that in last year's Tour.

Nibali has been brilliant throughout though and fully deserves to be where he is, it's hardly his fault that Wiggins and Hesjedal effectively didn't turn up, does anyone think either could have beaten him anyway?

Wiggins, yea although his descending...

No way hesjedal can beat nibali.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't know..maybe the 2 contador fangirls who started this whole nibali convo can't stand the fact that somebody can be better than contador..first it was schleck then onto sky and now Nibali?

I will not take your bait

by the way who is the other fangirl?

by the way andy was never better than Alberto. Nibali also isn't better than Alberto. Only Froome.

 

[TANK91]

Yes, it was Nibali's duty to attack last year and he surely did, even if it wasn't successful.

Anyway at the TDF last year i was more bothered with the fact that sky could easily drop everyone bar the top 4 non sky climbers in the race and still have 4 of their riders in the group then with whom was going to attack

You said Nibali does not need to attack because he is in Pink, I no Nibali had to attack in the TDF because he was behind, but loads say it was boring Sky not attacking but they were in Yellow like you say, they had no need too same for Nibali now.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I will not take your bait

by the way who is the other fangirl?

Mirburo.

.........

 

[LaFlorecita]

Mirburo.

.........

He is a guy