Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Walkman]

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I don't see it. Maybe the Sky fans here who can see better can tell if he hits or misses Froome.

Well, if you think the SKY fans are grasping at straws to have a dig at Nibali, we all know how the forum would react if the situation would be the opposite..

 

[dwyatt]

. How did Nibali manage that if Froome managed to ride away after the bump?

Froome had a buckled wheel and waited for a new wheel

 

[Poursuivant]

If he threw it, surely some spectator filmed it on their mobile.

 

[Rollthedice]

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I bet nibali is still pissed off at froome

He has some experience at being pissed off at Sky leaders. At some point in TdF 2012 he had a problemo with Sir Brad.

 

[Jelantik]

I didn't see any bottle being thrown. I thought Froome was a little farther location to Nibali (can't see since he is off the camera). But his anger to me is a sign that he is really under pressure. Crash happens all the time.But when you are in the back foot, you can't afford to have a silly crash happens to you.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Cant see if it hits Froome or not but he definitely threw a bottle at someone (most likely Froome) in that video

 

[PremierAndrew]

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I didn't see any bottle being thrown. I thought Froome was a little farther location to Nibali (can't see since he is off the camera). But his anger to me is a sign that he is really under pressure. Crash happens all the time.But when you are in the back foot, you can't afford to have a silly crash happens to you.

Full screen, 1.47. Watch nibbles

 

[Kwibus]

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Put the video on full screen and keep a close eye on Nibali up ahead. You can clearly see the bottle flying through the air towards Froome.

Rofl. Yes clearly a bidon... Get lost.
Only CSI can solve this by zooming in 100x.

 

[Marco Pantani]

I thought he throws something at first, but after rewatching it looks more like a white flag from the crowd.

 

[Eagle]

Surely the fact that Froome said it didn't happen should end this conversation

 

[mr. tibbs]

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Surely the fact that Froome said it didn't happen should end this conversation

Haha, sure. The CN forum during the first week of the Tour is almost as volatile and irrational as the nervously twitchy peloton during the same time.

 

[djpbaltimore]

But I guess this still this begs the question.... What was nibali apologizing for if not throwing a bidon? Just being angry at him doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Either way, it shouldn't be a big deal.

 

[Eagle]

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But I guess this still this begs the question.... What was nibali apologizing for if not throwing a bidon? Just being angry at him doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Either way, it shouldn't be a big deal.

https://twitter.com/nedboulting/status/619196688251658245

Seems no bidon was thrown, according to @chrisfroome, but there was sounding off and accusation. Think that's it!

Probably the sounding off and accusation

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I thought he throws something at first, but after rewatching it looks more like a white flag from the crowd.

I also saw some movement but it didn't look like a bidon to me. I think it is indeed a flag. Well spotted!

 

[damian13ster]

Maybe he just has enough class to admit he was wrong?

 

[JRanton]

I think the problem is that I first saw the incident on a widescreen HD TV, where the incident is clear when slowed down, so I knew exactly what I was looking for when it came to the video on the internet. If you are able to watch the clip on a widescreen TV, do so.

 

[JRanton]

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Of course Nibali threw it at Froome. Nibali said himself that he was (wrongly) very angry with Froome immediately after the crash and you can see the bidon on the floor right in front of Froome.

Froome then ends up going around to the Astana bus to complain. 2+2 equals 4 in this case.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The best trolling attempt ever.
It also seems the Nibali threw his bike at Froome and then tried to beat him up.

No trolling. Nibali threw a bidon at Froome. This is totally clear. Froome even told Ned Boulting about it himself but Froome is a gent and didn't wish for it to be made public so a retraction was made.

 

[JRanton]

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Put the video on full screen and keep a close eye on Nibali up ahead. You can clearly see the bottle flying through the air towards Froome.

Rofl. Yes clearly a bidon... Get lost.
Only CSI can solve this by zooming in 100x.

Or even a widescreen HD TV.

 

[JRanton]

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But I guess this still this begs the question.... What was nibali apologizing for if not throwing a bidon? Just being angry at him doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Either way, it shouldn't be a big deal.

Of course it's a big deal. Nibali should be DQ'd just like Tom Steels was.

 

[djpbaltimore]

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Of course it's a big deal. Nibali should be DQ'd just like Tom Steels was.

Slightly different contexts IMO. Steels threw a bottle while they were going 50km/hr and was a very dangerous stunt. I tend to be more lenient in this instance (assuming anything even comes of this).

 

[Punkan]

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Of course Nibali threw it at Froome. Nibali said himself that he was (wrongly) very angry with Froome immediately after the crash and you can see the bidon on the floor right in front of Froome.

Froome then ends up going around to the Astana bus to complain. 2+2 equals 4 in this case.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The best trolling attempt ever.
It also seems the Nibali threw his bike at Froome and then tried to beat him up.

Apart from those delusions, Nibali and Froome were angry at each other, blaming one another for the fall, obviously in the heat of the moment and before seeing the TV images. Then Froome headed for the Astana team bus to straight things up with Nibali who apologized for accusing Froome of the fall.

You mean Froome blamed Nibali for the fall? News to me. Any proof?

 

[el_angliru]

HD image:
http://i.imgur.com/3f5WcOq.jpg

Froome is still on his bike at this point (at the top of the frame). Apparently he stopped a bit later but I think he's too far from Nibali for any incident to have happened between the two? Unless it happened at a later stage.

 

[SeriousSam]

So a white flag was thrown at Froome? That has symbolic value, although it precedes the likely capitulation of his rivals by a few days.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

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Of course Nibali threw it at Froome. Nibali said himself that he was (wrongly) very angry with Froome immediately after the crash and you can see the bidon on the floor right in front of Froome.

Froome then ends up going around to the Astana bus to complain. 2+2 equals 4 in this case.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The best trolling attempt ever.
It also seems the Nibali threw his bike at Froome and then tried to beat him up.

No trolling. Nibali threw a bidon at Froome. This is totally clear. Froome even told Ned Boulting about it himself but Froome is a gent and didn't wish for it to be made public so a retraction was made.

cool story, strangely it was only seen on British widescreen hd televisions,
Were the rest of the world scrambled?

 

[Punkan]

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HD image:
http://i.imgur.com/3f5WcOq.jpg

Froome is still on his bike at this point (at the top of the frame). Apparently he stopped a bit later but I think he's too far from Nibali for any incident to have happened between the two? Unless it happened at a later stage.

Not sure about that.

Watch at 3:32-3:33, you see Froome and a teammate just ahead of Martin, Kwia et al.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/tour-el-triunfo-de-stybar-y-la-caida-final-video-09-07-2015