I actually wonder, aren't the nibali fans also really sad we never got to see this awesome duel too? The 2 most agressive/succesful GT riders of this century and both in monstershape. Will probably never happen again 
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Don't make me sad Miburo. That Tour would've been awesome. Look at Contador's right arm there. It's crazy how good he was there.
Yes, but I like the fact that Nibali won
Would've been pretty amazing though. I reckon Nibali would've kept his advantage, but close. Like very close.
Would've been pretty amazing though. I reckon Nibali would've kept his advantage, but close. Like very close.
i dont, like almost every GT Nibali wins his main competitors fell out so we never knew the true value
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Another reason why he was such a beast, it was raining. It was also raining on the planche des belles filles stage
But nibali was a monster, i don't know if contador could have done it but it would have been insane. Every stage, attacks left and right.
No pussy ass *** like what happened with AS and quintana, or some stupid sky train.
We got robbed of something amazing, God better explains it to me when i'm death.
Red Rick said:
Another reason why he was such a beast, it was raining. It was also raining on the planche des belles filles stage
But nibali was a monster, i don't know if contador could have done it but it would have been insane. Every stage, attacks left and right.
No pussy ass *** like what happened with AS and quintana, or some stupid sky train.
We got robbed of something amazing, God better explains it to me when i'm death.
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You might think you got over the Kruijswijk thing, although you prob not yet but it'll never happen. You'll never get over it.
Not next year, not the year after but at least you had the comfort of mind seeing him beasting
Dekker_Tifosi said:
You might think you got over the Kruijswijk thing, although you prob not yet but it'll never happen. You'll never get over it.
Not next year, not the year after but at least you had the comfort of mind seeing him beasting
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I don't know. The 'real thing' would have likely been worse than the crazy things we created in our minds about what would have happened. Don't want to break that bubble.
Miburo said:Red Rick said:
Another reason why he was such a beast, it was raining. It was also raining on the planche des belles filles stage
But nibali was a monster, i don't know if contador could have done it but it would have been insane. Every stage, attacks left and right.
No pussy *** **** like what happened with AS and quintana, or some stupid sky train.
We got robbed of something amazing, God better explains it to me when i'm death.
I don't know. The 'real thing' would have likely been worse than the crazy things we created in our minds about what would have happened. Don't want to break that bubble.
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Butthurt and idiotic statement as always. Guess you gotta channel that hate towards Nibali since Krujswijk can't ride a bike and NL can't play football.
NUB.
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Butthurt and idiotic statement as always. Guess you gotta channel that hate towards Nibali since Krujswijk can't ride a bike and NL can't play football.
NUB.
If Nibali is better this Tour than last year Tour, could we admit Giro dont make perform clearly worse in le Tour?
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Because of one time? That would be then an anomaly. You're insane or trolling if you truly think that.
Taxus4a said:
Because of one time? That would be then an anomaly. You're insane or trolling if you truly think that.
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That doesn't matter. What matters is that he's free to make that point and you don't even try to contribute to the thread.
Valv.Piti said:
That doesn't matter. What matters is that he's free to make that point and you don't even try to contribute to the thread.
Red Rick isn't a nationalist, pretty nice lad for a dutch
DT on the other hand is obviously one
DT on the other hand is obviously one
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I don't think DT was contributing much either. He is spewing the same old nonsense as always, thus why I called him out again, again. His statement should result in a ban - which cycling fan didn't wan't to witness that duel... I mean, really? Trolling of the highest order.
Red Rick said:
I don't think DT was contributing much either. He is spewing the same old nonsense as always, thus why I called him out again, again. His statement should result in a ban - which cycling fan didn't wan't to witness that duel... I mean, really? Trolling of the highest order.
Re: Nibali discussion thread
DT's point is fair somewhat, it's not trolling. But you can't argue about Nibali in '14 either. He was the last guy standing. It's racing. He won. Period. Like this year's Giro. There's a lot to say, but he won. His resurrection is either epic or belongs to The Clinic.
Now looking forward, I don't know how much scouting he did, planning to win the TdF. Aru has been sub-par, and Nibali can destroy him. There's no love between the two.
Vincenzo was my pick last year and I was wrong. This year? He won't podium the Tour, he'll undermine Aru, who is weak right now. Maybe attack early, get a stage, say goodbye week 3.
A few years ago, who could have foreseen that Scarponi would one day help Nibali win the Giro?
DT's point is fair somewhat, it's not trolling. But you can't argue about Nibali in '14 either. He was the last guy standing. It's racing. He won. Period. Like this year's Giro. There's a lot to say, but he won. His resurrection is either epic or belongs to The Clinic.
Now looking forward, I don't know how much scouting he did, planning to win the TdF. Aru has been sub-par, and Nibali can destroy him. There's no love between the two.
Vincenzo was my pick last year and I was wrong. This year? He won't podium the Tour, he'll undermine Aru, who is weak right now. Maybe attack early, get a stage, say goodbye week 3.
A few years ago, who could have foreseen that Scarponi would one day help Nibali win the Giro?
we did get to see the battle between nibali and contador at tour and Nibs won both of them in one 2014 as people claim they were both in top shape and bertie crashed out and could not finish, similar to what happened to kruijswijk. in second one 2015, nibs finished one spot ahead of him. Personally I loved them both
Don't see it mentioned here so dunno if it was news, but apparently Astana has 2 separate altitude training camps for Tour this year. Aru&co in one, Nibali, Fuglsang and Kangert in the other. Considering the latter 3 guys just finished the Giro and might be looking for very different preparation for the Tour because of that, it can make decent sense I guess. But if one were to look for potential internal tensions within Astana, I guess they could read it that way
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No an anomally, for some riders, among them Contador, Giro is not a bad preparation for le Tour, they have the recovery to rest and perform well, and Contador has won stages in le Tour after le Giro. last year he couldnt reach that level, but IMO he reached a similar level to le Giro, just a little bit less.
Nibali is in le Tour to help ary and thinking in rio, so he wont be in the GC.. but you never knows.
Miburo said:
No an anomally, for some riders, among them Contador, Giro is not a bad preparation for le Tour, they have the recovery to rest and perform well, and Contador has won stages in le Tour after le Giro. last year he couldnt reach that level, but IMO he reached a similar level to le Giro, just a little bit less.
Nibali is in le Tour to help ary and thinking in rio, so he wont be in the GC.. but you never knows.
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It's no secret that there's no big love between the two but it has nothing to do with these different training camps. While Aru works with his group of loyal teammates preparing the Tour all this year, Nibali is with friend Agnoli, Tanel, Birdsong and mastermind Slongo in the usual San Pellegrino training camp, the place where he trains since many years now. Aru has the objective to get on the podium, anything less would be a disappointment for Vino and Nibali says he'll have the role of "battitore libero" (maybe our Italian friends can translate this properly), get maybe a stage and certainly prepare for once in a lifetime chance to win a medal in Rio. He will ride alongside Aru and not for him as "gregario di lusso". I don't think it's realistic to expect an Armstrong/Contador 2009 situation develop here since, with Rio as a main objective and the Giro in his legs and mind it is almost impossible for Nibali to challenge Tour de France.
mihhint said:Don't see it mentioned here so dunno if it was news, but apparently Astana has 2 separate altitude training camps for Tour this year. Aru&co in one, Nibali, Fuglsang and Kangert in the other. Considering the latter 3 guys just finished the Giro and might be looking for very different preparation for the Tour because of that, it can make decent sense I guess. But if one were to look for potential internal tensions within Astana, I guess they could read it that way
It's no secret that there's no big love between the two but it has nothing to do with these different training camps. While Aru works with his group of loyal teammates preparing the Tour all this year, Nibali is with friend Agnoli, Tanel, Birdsong and mastermind Slongo in the usual San Pellegrino training camp, the place where he trains since many years now. Aru has the objective to get on the podium, anything less would be a disappointment for Vino and Nibali says he'll have the role of "battitore libero" (maybe our Italian friends can translate this properly), get maybe a stage and certainly prepare for once in a lifetime chance to win a medal in Rio. He will ride alongside Aru and not for him as "gregario di lusso". I don't think it's realistic to expect an Armstrong/Contador 2009 situation develop here since, with Rio as a main objective and the Giro in his legs and mind it is almost impossible for Nibali to challenge Tour de France.
I hope Nibali thinks higher of Tour de France than Rio just for the spectacle. It would be amazing if we had a really, really good Nibali in the Pyrenees
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When? Not in 2011 and certainly not in 2015... And that were the only years when he did the Tour after the Giro.
Taxus4a said:
When? Not in 2011 and certainly not in 2015... And that were the only years when he did the Tour after the Giro.
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Impossible. He will ride the TdF not for GC else he can as well not show up in Rio.
Valv.Piti said:
Impossible. He will ride the TdF not for GC else he can as well not show up in Rio.
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Its not impossible, but its more likely he will be as bad as Contador 2015 or worse than contending for podium.Kwibus said:
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