Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Brullnux]

I'd say 90% chance he's doing the Giro.

 

[SafeBet]

He can't skip the Centesimo.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Tre Valli Varesine
Tour d'Almaty
Abu Dhabi Tour

No Milano-Torino
No Giro del Piemonte
No Giro di Lombardia

Horrible.

 

[Arredondo]

I understand his decision actually. If his shape is *** (which i think he thinks it is), there's no point starting in Lombardia. The risk to falter big time is way too high.

 

[Rollthedice]

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I understand his decision actually. If his shape is **** (which i think he thinks it is), there's no point starting in Lombardia. The risk to falter big time is way too high.

He was for most of the past weeks in Messina where he organized a granfondo. Also, I think last week he said he still had a discomfort (pain) when riding, from the asperities and bumps in the tarmac. So nothing competitive is realistic this year. The man is enjoying his last months with Astana by taking it easy, after all he won 3 GTs for Vino.

 

[Escarabajo]

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I'd say 90% chance he's doing the Giro.

If he is the leader for that team they'll probably want him at the Tour. Just saying. Us fans don't understand that but sponsors are a different thing.

 

[Gigs_98]

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I'd say 90% chance he's doing the Giro.

If he is the leader for that team they'll probably want him at the Tour. Just saying. Us fans don't understand that but sponsors are a different thing.

But would Nibali be willing to go to a team which doesn't let him ride the giro?

 

[Billie]

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I'd say 90% chance he's doing the Giro.

If he is the leader for that team they'll probably want him at the Tour. Just saying. Us fans don't understand that but sponsors are a different thing.

the sponsor is his friend

 

[jens_attacks]

he will do the giro for sure, for me there's no question

and yes, it was expected that he will skip lombardia.

 

[Brullnux]

Yeah, Astana want to win that race. If Nibali isn't fit enough to do a good job for Aru then they wouldn't have taken him.

 

[El Pistolero]

https://twitter.com/vincenzonibali/status/787779800836562944/photo/1?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=vincenzonibali&utm_content=787779800836562944

What's Nibali saying here?

 

[Ricco']

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https://twitter.com/vincenzonibali/status/787779800836562944/photo/1?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=vincenzonibali&utm_content=787779800836562944

What's Nibali saying here?

Something like "My controls are regular, problems are the defamatory".

I don't know what went on but that appears to be some medical report, maybe an anti doping test result? Probably some rumours about abnormal results and he is refuting them. The dates on the paper are consistent with a test made at the National Championships of 2015 in Torino, which he won.

 

[jens_attacks]

The rumours were back then that he tested positive, just like reda

 

[Rollthedice]

Here you can read the story triggering Nibali's Tweet. Maybe our Italian friends can summarize better.

http://www.cyclingpro.net/spaziociclismo/road/le-iene-servizio-ciclismo-antidoping-uguale-per-tutti-sospetti-sui-controlli-campionato-italiano-2015-nibali-reda

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Here you can read the story triggering Nibali's Tweet. Maybe our Italian friends can summarize better.

http://www.cyclingpro.net/spaziociclismo/road/le-iene-servizio-ciclismo-antidoping-uguale-per-tutti-sospetti-sui-controlli-campionato-italiano-2015-nibali-reda

I think the key phrase is this (but perhaps we need to go to the Clinic Forum)

Secondo Francini Nibali alle 19 se ne sarebbe dunque andato, ma nel verbale ufficiale si legge qualcosa di diverso. Confermato il problema dell'assenza delle provette, che sarebbe stato riscontrato alle 16:45, dopo che Brambilla e Conti hanno subito il prelievo, i controlli ematici degli altri tre sarebbero invece avvenuti circa tre ore dopo. 19:26 per Nibali, 19:30 Reda, 19:45 Zilioli. In contraddizione con quanto ha dunque scritto Francini. Per chiarezza, nella tarda serata di ieri, Vincenzo Nibali ha pubblicato un tweet in cui mostra le ricevute dei controlli di quel giorno precisando dunque come i suoi controlli siano "regolari".

Which I think says Nibali's anti-doping test was done 3 hours after the end of the 2015 Italian National Championship at Superga. While for Brambilla it was done straightaway at 16:45.

 

[SafeBet]

Better discuss this in the clinic, but note that:
- Cyclingpro is notorious in Italy to talk BS more often than not;
- The TV show he's mentioning, Le Iene, is an insult to journalism and fact checking in general. Other issues thay've been blabbing about in the past couple of years: vaccines causing autism, scorpion's poison curing cancer, veganism curing cancer, Monsanto using xylella to destroy italian's olive trees and on and on.

This is not to say there's nothing behind this story, but take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Pennino]

I agree this should be in the Clinic, but Nibali's "defence" at least seems all but strong. He shows two handwritten signed pieces of paper, classic Italian style.

 

[Red Rick]

Don't know if it's been discussed, but has there been any mention of Nibali's plans for 2017 after the Giro?

 

[May0maniac]

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Don't know if it's been discussed, but has there been any mention of Nibali's plans for 2017 after the Giro?

A few weeks ago Visconti mentioned that Nibali will probably ride the Giro and the Vuelta.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Don't know if it's been discussed, but has there been any mention of Nibali's plans for 2017 after the Giro?

Right now in Croatia first team meeting Bahrain Merida, I'm sure Nibali's plannning for 2017 is an important topic. He didn't even confirm Giro but we all know that riding in pink in Messina would be very nice.

 

[sir fly]

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Don't know if it's been discussed, but has there been any mention of Nibali's plans for 2017 after the Giro?

Right now in Croatia first team meeting Bahrain Merida, I'm sure Nibali's plannning for 2017 is an important topic. He didn't even confirm Giro but we all know that riding in pink in Messina would be very nice.

Where in Croatia are they?
Tinkoff was in Poreč, if I remember well.

 

[El Pistolero]

A Giro-Vuelta double would be amazing, but I doubt he can reach the level of 2013-2014 again. Hope I'm wrong! He certainly won't win the Giro next year if he comes prepared like this year.

 

[Red Rick]

Nibali was pretty freaking good on the stage to Risoul. Seemed like he went into the Giro massively underprepared. Hopefully he'll go for a better approach now.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

Don't know if it's been discussed, but has there been any mention of Nibali's plans for 2017 after the Giro?

Right now in Croatia first team meeting Bahrain Merida, I'm sure Nibali's plannning for 2017 is an important topic. He didn't even confirm Giro but we all know that riding in pink in Messina would be very nice.

Nibali winning on Etna, then wearing the Maglia Rosa in Messina would be absolutely epic. A well-prepared Nibali and a tailwind, por favor. He and I think especially Slongo learned from last year, they didn't know what they were doing last year despite him winning.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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A Giro-Vuelta double would be amazing, but I doubt he can reach the level of 2013-2014 again. Hope I'm wrong! He certainly won't win the Giro next year if he comes prepared like this year.

I'd say he was on his absolute best for the last couple of alpine stages of this year's Giro. Undoubtedly two of this year's greatest climbing performances from any rider, in my opinion.