Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Climbing]

Thomas and maybe Kruijswijk, but yeah no Remco and Carapaz.
In theory the route is perfect for Thomas... if he finds form.
I expect maybe some other big gun missfiring at the Tour or dropping out early and showing up at the Giro.

 

[BlueRoads]

And people still question if the shark vodoo is real

No Evenepoel and probably no Carapaz or else a tired Carapaz

That leaves Simon Yates and we saw how he ran out of energy before
And Fuglsang ..well TT miles and high mountains should see him off

You think Nibali is a better TTer than Fuglsang?

 

[topcat]

You think Nibali is a better TTer than Fuglsang?

We know he is. We watch cycling.

 

[Rollthedice]

You think Nibali is a better TTer than Fuglsang?

Depends. Both have been crap and good during their career. Nibali usually does good TTs when it matters and he's in proper shape, better than Birdsong. But between the two the difference should be made on the mountains, Nibali can't get a proper margin as it would have been with Carapaz in TT.

 

[BlueRoads]

We know he is. We watch cycling.

Ah, in that case of course you have an advantage.

 

[Red Rick]

Thomas and maybe Kruijswijk, but yeah no Remco and Carapaz.
In theory the route is perfect for Thomas... if he finds form.
I expect maybe some other big gun missfiring at the Tour or dropping out early and showing up at the Giro.

In theory, what route even suits Thomas apart from TT heavy? I literally think his climbing form is too rare to even judge what climbs suit him, and in his Tour win he was just never in trouble.

 

[Red Rick]

Depends. Both have been crap and good during their career. Nibali usually does good TTs when it matters and he's in proper shape, better than Birdsong. But between the two the difference should be made on the mountains, Nibali can't get a proper margin as it would have been with Carapaz in TT.

I don't really worry about Bird.

For Nibali's sake I worry about Dumoulin doing the Giro after the Tour.

And Vlasov.

 

[tobydawq]

In theory, what route even suits Thomas apart from TT heavy? I literally think his climbing form is too rare to even judge what climbs suit him, and in his Tour win he was just never in trouble.

Maybe a cobbles heavy route?

 

[Rollthedice]

I don't really worry about Bird.

For Nibali's sake I worry about Dumoulin doing the Giro after the Tour.

And Vlasov.

More plausible from Jumbo to Giro would be Krashweak. Vlasov? Just a slightly better Zakarin.

 

[Red Rick]

More plausible from Jumbo to Giro would be Krashweak. Vlasov? Just a slightly better Zakarin.

I'm not dismissing Vlasov until he does stuff that's worthy of dismissal

 

[bambino]

Thomas and maybe Kruijswijk, but yeah no Remco and Carapaz.
In theory the route is perfect for Thomas... if he finds form.
I expect maybe some other big gun missfiring at the Tour or dropping out early and showing up at the Giro.

Has Ineos actually said Carapaz will not ride Giro? The plan could also be to ride him into shape in Tour...

 

[Gigs_98]

I'm not dismissing Vlasov until he does stuff that's worthy of dismissal

Is calling him a slightly better Zakarin even dismissing? To me someone slightly better than a gt podium finisher sounds kinda dangerous

 

[Rollthedice]

Is calling him a slightly better Zakarin even dismissing? To me someone slightly better than a gt podium finisher sounds kinda dangerous

Vlasov is nothing short of amazing since he's with Astana. It's like the season break because of corona didn't exist , stage races and one day placements look like this: 2,3,1,4,3,1. However this does not make him more than a dangerous outsider for the Giro and he is riding for Fuglsang. What will be the relation between the two? Will Vlasov be the new Carapaz to Mikel Birdsong?

 

[Climbing]

Has Ineos actually said Carapaz will not ride Giro? The plan could also be to ride him into shape in Tour...

Maybe, but I think it's simply plan B, or tactically high placed 2nd rider for the team.
Either way no riding into shape I suspect, we'll see.

 

[Rollthedice]

Bad news, Ciccone positive for COVID, no Tirreno, who knows what next.

 

[Red Rick]

Bad news, Ciccone positive for COVID, no Tirreno, who knows what next.

Nibalis, Brambilla and Bernard, who left with him training camp, all negative.

 

[Rollthedice]

Nibalis, Brambilla and Bernard, who left with him training camp, all negative.

Dodged the bullet for now. Ciccone is Nibali's only capable lieutenant for the Giro, I have no idea how this will impact his prep. Apparently he was also feeling tired so it's not just asymptomatic carrier.

 

[Red Rick]

Dodged the bullet for now. Ciccone is Nibali's only capable lieutenant for the Giro, I have no idea how this will impact his prep. Apparently he was also feeling tired so it's not just asymptomatic carrier.

Remora + dreadful weather = win.

 

[Gigs_98]

Bad news, Ciccone positive for COVID, no Tirreno, who knows what next.

Dude you can't just write covid in caps lock in the Nibali thread when he doesn't even have it. First moment I saw your comment I almost got a heart attack.

 

[tobydawq]

Dude you can't just write covid in caps lock in the Nibali thread when he doesn't even have it. First moment I saw your comment I almost got a heart attack.

Caps Lock is the only correct way to spell it, no?

 

[RedheadDane]

Remora + dreadful weather = win.

ANTONIO!

 

[Rollthedice]

After a training camp in the Dolomites kept rather secret (haven't seen any twitters and alikes) it's back to action in a race that is fundamental, especially this year, for his preparation of the Giro.

Two days and 16 hours left until Tirreno-Adriatico. The team is: Vincenzo, Brambilla, Bernard, Weening, De Kort, Kirsch and Antonio.

 

[F_Cance]

The Giro without Ciccone or with a Ciccone out of form would be a big blow to his chances. Bernard, Brambilla and Conci are all too weak as a last helper.

 

[Rollthedice]

Nibali and the team underwent the second test for covid as per regulations three days before the race and it's negative, green light for Tirreno.

 

[Rollthedice]

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