Voeckler doping?

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Are you saying this tour is without great climbers, or without doped great climbers?
I would expect and accept TV to climb a bit better in this TdF than 2004. If he's always been clean, he should be seen as a great climber, just an invisible one, being a pro rider.

Without great doped great climbers, but with doped climbers who were great when doped great...

 

[Willy_Voet]

How about that: Everybody of those "great climbers" rode 6.4 W/KG and Voeckler cleanish 5.8 in around 2004.

Now the not so great climbers ride cleanish 6 W/KG, especially after the plasticzier indroduction in 2010, and Voeckler is still at 5.8 (not loosing time when drafting behind a 6 W/KG rider).

Then the results of 2011 with TV going for the podium do make sense.

Why are you bent on defending an obvious doper with numbers, calculations and all that? The Clinic knows a doped performance when it sees it.

 

[Jeanne]

what I just saw from him during todays stage right now, says it all.

 

[Willy_Voet]

what I just saw from him during todays stage right now, says it all.

You mean getting dropped, right?

 

[Jeanne]

You mean getting dropped, right?

I mean I'm freaking out way too fast today - But if he starts chasing now and wins the stage I might change my mind again

 

[Microchip]

I'd be very surprised if he isn't clean. One of the few riders that have an actual look of suffering on his face instead of a bland poker-faced look after struggling physically for hours.

Yesterday was the first time I've seen a rider so exhausted he could barely catch himself. It was a fine sight, if I ever saw one!

 

[Zoncolan]

I'd be very surprised if he isn't clean. One of the few riders that have an actual look of suffering on his face instead of a bland poker-faced look after struggling physically for hours.

Yesterday was the first time I've seen a rider so exhausted he could barely catch himself. It was a fine sight, if I ever saw one!

So, if a rider looks like he's hurting, it's because he's clean, not because the effort is great?

 

[Microchip]

So, if a rider looks like he's hurting, it's because he's clean, not because the effort is great?

The effort is great, bec he's not on anything.

 

[Jeanne]

So, if a rider looks like he's hurting, it's because he's clean, not because the effort is great?

Yeah, exactly! don't u know the pain-face-test? The only one that really makes sense!

 

[Ferminal]

It's ok he's clean, Phil just told me it's because of the whole of France wanting him to succeed.

 

[zigmeister]

He's doping. He is a terrible climber. His climbing/riding form is a joke compared to the real climbers. Yet, he miraculously just keeps hanging in there and doesn't die. Can you say EPO??? This is out of nowhere seemingly.....yes, years ago he had the yellow jersey, but he was probably doped up then also.

Interesting how Contador without his Clen is doing so poorly as a side bar.

 

[Altitude]

I'd be very surprised if he isn't clean. One of the few riders that have an actual look of suffering on his face instead of a bland poker-faced look after struggling physically for hours.

Yesterday was the first time I've seen a rider so exhausted he could barely catch himself. It was a fine sight, if I ever saw one!

Check out my avatar - that's Kohl after Alpe D'Huez. We all know how clean he was

 

[classicomano]

Just noticed theres 3 other Europcar riders with Voeckler in the favorites group when theres like 10 left .. this gets more stupid every day.

 

[Zoncolan]

Just noticed theres 3 other Europcar riders with Voeckler in the favorites group when theres like 10 left .. this gets more stupid every day.

I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.

 

[danjo007]

not bad for a B-grade team.. ????? have you EVER seen a display of poor sportsmanship ~mr voeckler? does he expect, no demand everyone in the peleton work for HIM!?
he's a discrace to the yellow jersey and what it means!

btw. i still ask how is seems to outride the entire peleton? - especially when he is a cr@p rider......

 

[Jeanne]

I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.

If you believe in miracles, don't waste your time in the clinic.

 

[Microchip]

Makes him appear to be a normal human being.

 

[Zoncolan]

If you believe in miracles, don't waste your time in the clinic.

Quote>ironic. Brain?

 

[classicomano]

Oh look now theres 6 europcars in the chase group. L O L.

 

[Kwibus]

Oh look now theres 6 europcars in the chase group. L O L.

I usually stay out of the clinic, but I was very curious what the clinic thought about Europcar.
The clinic thinks exactly the same about Europcar as I do. They are the best team in the mountains... right!

 

[Jeanne]

Quote>ironic. Brain?

same to you

 

[Zoncolan]

When did Postal change their jerseys to green?

 

[Zoncolan]

same to you

No need to get your panties all in a bunch. Should have recognized the quote. Look it up.

 

[Jeanne]

No need to get your panties all in a bunch. Should have recognized the quote. Look it up.

yeah, right better see what team "postcar" will do next

 

[Zoncolan]

Rolland now