Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana (2.1) February 3-7

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Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.


I don't think that is necessarily true ....they have a stable of very good riders who can be in form at different times more like...so they have winners for all parts of the season
A bit like how they rode the Tour last year ....different riders were good on different days

Poels is very impressive but how is he going be top at Ardennes, the Tour & the Olympics. And he is not even riding the Giro like Konig, Lopez & Instausti
 
HelloDolly said:
Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.

Poles is very impressive but how is he going be top at Ardennes, the Tour & the Olympics. And he is not even riding the Giro like Konig, Lopez & Instausti
Simple, he will suck in the Ardennes as usual and then go full robotmode for the Tour and then hope to drag that form to the Olympics.
 
HelloDolly said:
Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.


I don't think that is necessarily true ....they have a stable of very good riders who can be in form at different times more like...so they have winners for all parts of the season
A bit like how they rode the Tour last year ....different riders were good on different days
Why don't other teams have that?
 
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Velolover2 said:
Many of Poels wins have been a short, sharp climb followed by a downhill finish. If Poels can peak like that, he can win Sky a Monument. Lombardia is perfect for him. :D

How many times did i heard this story? :p :eek:
 
LaFlorecita said:
HelloDolly said:
Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.


I don't think that is necessarily true ....they have a stable of very good riders who can be in form at different times more like...so they have winners for all parts of the season
A bit like how they rode the Tour last year ....different riders were good on different days
Why don't other teams have that?

Other teams with similar budgets have spent poorly, for the money Tinkoff spent on Sagan they could of got three or four excellent climbing domestiques for Contador.
 
LaFlorecita said:
HelloDolly said:
Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.


I don't think that is necessarily true ....they have a stable of very good riders who can be in form at different times more like...so they have winners for all parts of the season
A bit like how they rode the Tour last year ....different riders were good on different days
Why don't other teams have that?

Becuase they don;t have as MANY top riders ...I mean most teams have 3 or 4 top riders but SKY have alot
Just look at the line up for this race alone and their 3 (4?) top GC riders aren't here
It the budget
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Sad that Diego dropped so far down the rankings.
This Sky domination is pretty boring, hopefully the other teams catch up before 2026.

With Purito going to win Liege and Rio, Contador the Tour and Chaves the Vuelta, who cares about Team Sky winning the Tour of Valencia? :D :p ;)
 
MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
HelloDolly said:
Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.


I don't think that is necessarily true ....they have a stable of very good riders who can be in form at different times more like...so they have winners for all parts of the season
A bit like how they rode the Tour last year ....different riders were good on different days
Why don't other teams have that?

Other teams with similar budgets have spent poorly, for the money Tinkoff spent on Sagan they could of got three or four excellent climbing domestiques for Contador.

So you would trade the reigning world champion, who is probably the most marketable rider in the world and could very well win a couple of monuments over the next couple of years for 3-4 good domestiques?
 
MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
HelloDolly said:
Rollthedice said:
DBotero said:
Poels kill it :) I think Astana got it wrong.Aru burned Rosa himself.

Either way nobody stood a chance. Sky has a better training program which yields results all year long.


I don't think that is necessarily true ....they have a stable of very good riders who can be in form at different times more like...so they have winners for all parts of the season
A bit like how they rode the Tour last year ....different riders were good on different days
Why don't other teams have that?

Other teams with similar budgets have spent poorly, for the money Tinkoff spent on Sagan they could of got three or four excellent climbing domestiques for Contador.

I do agree with that ...Tinkov spent alot on Sagan and could have gotten alot of cheaper good climbers for that

SKY buy climbers...Brailsford loves climbers
 
MatParker117 said:
Other teams with similar budgets have spent poorly, for the money Tinkoff spent on Sagan they could of got three or four excellent climbing domestiques for Contador.
There aren't even that many "excellent climbing domestiques" on the market. Sky's key to success is transforming "climbing domestiques" into "world class climbers" how they manage that we do not know
 
LaFlorecita said:
MatParker117 said:
Other teams with similar budgets have spent poorly, for the money Tinkoff spent on Sagan they could of got three or four excellent climbing domestiques for Contador.
There aren't even that many "excellent climbing domestiques" on the market. Sky's key to success is transforming "climbing domestiques" into "world class climbers" how they manage that we do not know

They also spend money on coaches, sport scientists, support staff which many teams only pay lip service and the one's that do, don't do it as well.
 
LaFlorecita said:
HelloDolly said:
LaFlorecita said:
Why don't other teams have that?

Becuase they don;t have as MANY top riders ...I mean most teams have 3 or 4 top riders but SKY have alot
Just look at the line up for this race alone and their 3 (4?) top GC riders aren't here
It the budget
Astana and Tinkoff basically have unlimited budget so your argument is invalid.

My arguments are as valid as any of yours :-(

SKY have far more better climbers that Tinkov ...who have Contador & Majka but
Kreusiger is good but hasn't been recently
Mike Rogers heart is not good
Trofimov is good but who else...They have alot of older riders

Why did they not purchase Poels, Konig, Nieve , Inxtausti , etc
Because they wouldn't go to a team by Tinkov imo

All these innuendos are cheap attacks on success and noting but sour grapes
 
MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
MatParker117 said:
Other teams with similar budgets have spent poorly, for the money Tinkoff spent on Sagan they could of got three or four excellent climbing domestiques for Contador.
There aren't even that many "excellent climbing domestiques" on the market. Sky's key to success is transforming "climbing domestiques" into "world class climbers" how they manage that we do not know

They also spend money on coaches, sport scientists, support staff which many teams only pay lip service and the one's that do, don't do it as well.
Aha, as Saint David Walsh said, the other teams are basically amateurs. That explains it.